Energy Idiocy brought to you by ExxonMobil and Clean Coal
source: http://sierraclub.typepad.com/compass/2008/08/energy-idiocy-s.html
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This post is from Sierra Club Deputy Press Secretary Josh Dorner, who is also in Denver for the Democratic National Convention.
As has been reported by ThinkProgress and others, ExxonMobil has paid for a significant portion of the convention's media coverage and the energy industry (and most others) are lavishing sponsorships on events, parties, and receptions from dusk 'til dawn. But the entrenched dirty energy interests seem particularly intent on using the convention to push their issues.
Upon arriving at the swirling maelstrom that was Denver International Airport, I was immediately greeted by ads from the American Coalition Clean Coal Electricity (nee Americans for Balanced Energy Choices), the coal industry front group. (Their ads were even more prominent at the Minneapolis/St. Paul Airport where I had flown in from and where thousands of Republicans will pass through during their own convention next week.) A stroll down and around the 16th Street Mall, Denver's main drag, revealed even more energy idiocy. For those less ambulatory (or less willing to walk around in wool on a 90-degree day), clean coal even brings the message to you (click here to see the full photo):
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And, everyone's favorite slogan from the Newt Gingrich crew (click here if you can't see the full photo): 2008-08-25-photo.jpg
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Bren589
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no such thing as clean coal. they need to get real
- 3 years ago
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Bren589
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PlatoTacius
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Yes, money does buy a lot of space and dancing fools in our plastic world...
- 3 years ago
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PlatoTacius
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asherp
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When I was in Las Vegas at the Debate that Kucinich was shut out of at the last minute, there were "protesters" who were "demonstrating" for clean coal.
They had this truck that came out that had these sandwich board costumes in the back, they put them on, and danced in circles in areas where the other demonstrators (like me and the other Kucinich interns) weren't allowed to go.
I wonder how much they got paid.
- 3 years ago
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asherp
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Wetdog
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Werke macht frei.
I guess we know where they looked for inspiration.
- 3 years ago
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Wetdog
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justright
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Clean coal, fragrant sewage, lovely carnage. Some wall street guy made pretty penny on that oxymoron.
- 3 years ago
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justright
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PlatoTacius
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It's not the cleaness they like about it...it's the money it brings them, so they can lie about it all they want. They have no conscience anyway. The ridiculous dichotomy posed in the choice between the environment and our economy is not resolved by the farce about clean coal. As if to say that the next president wouldn't have to worry about the environment, that's already been solved by the coal companies and the oil companies...such propaganda makes Hitler look like Peter Pan...
They continue without restraint, compliments of bush/cheney, to destroy the environment and the economy...
WE, have to keep spreading the reality and promoting the progressive policies that will bring back the America and the world that we love...with alternative energy into Paradise...
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PlatoTacius
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Wetdog
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PlatoTacius:
Plato speaks the truth.
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Wetdog
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metalcookiesxy70
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SCREW THE FREAKING COAL, OIL, PETROLEUM, AND ALL THE FREAKING FOSSIL FUELS ALREADY!!!!! @#%&! I am seriously going to have to be a entrepreneur to sell solar power, electrical power, and wind power, to lift everyone's coal-addicted selfs off the ground...going make millons, who's with me!!!
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metalcookiesxy70
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Wetdog
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metalcookiesxy70:
Check out PetroSun and Range Fuels.
There are many others already working to replace coal and oil.
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Wetdog
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SonicSubculture
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This is like Crest advertising Whitening Toothpaste made out of poop.
You know a lot of people are still gonna buy it though.
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SonicSubculture
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tracyetheridge
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experts agree everything is fine.RIGHT
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tracyetheridge
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abbo
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I know there is more profit in an engery source that is finite, and difficult to extract - BUT WE NEED TO SKIP THE FOREPLAY AND COMMIT TO 100% RENEWABLE ENERGY.
clean coal my ass.
- 3 years ago
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abbo
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Wetdog
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Part of the "clean coal" and the Republican energy policy is Coal to Liquid proposal. Turning coal into liquid fuel.
Ironically, this uses the exact same process (Fischer-Tropsch) as is used to make wood into ethanol, and other complex hydrocarbons.
I ask you which makes more sense, pick up dead tree limbs off the ground and make ethanol----or dig coal up from 200-300 ft. underground and make methanol(much more toxic than ethanol)?
Still, which is better? Fight them over Coal to Liquid and get nothing but grief and resistance every step of the way, or let them build the Fishcher-Tropsch plants and THEN campaign to stop coal use?
If we fight Coal to Liquid, we may never get the F-T plants, if we have the plants they could be converted to wood and cellulose.What*s a Mother{Nature} to do?
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Wetdog
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BIOHAZARD
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ha ha ha back to the man deciding what the population needs to hear, and showing the governments true ignorance, but hey it must be true right, its in writing it must be fact, right?
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BIOHAZARD
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jefftego
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It is so rediculous that they set this up like there is a choice. At this point, clean coal is nothing more than a concept. Cool, we can keep burning more coal because someday it might be possible for it to produce less CO2. Someday.
I love how the sign says, "Our next president." What a joke. Try the president after the next one after this next one, maybe.
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jefftego
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arenegade
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clean coal... more like dirty diaper. next we'll wash ourselves with crude.
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arenegade
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EdieJane
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I like diamonds but then i don't like that diamonds are controlled. So I guess NO COAL FOR ME
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EdieJane
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NeoDotCom
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Coal? So what's next
Whale Blubber - 3 years ago
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NeoDotCom
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crob80227
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NeoDotCom:
Genius! I love it!
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crob80227
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gracesteban
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Ads like this will be useless if people are educated, regardless if it's through a formal education or not.
Those who knows the facts will just laugh at something like this.
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gracesteban
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gracesteban:
I think the reality is a bit opposite. The ads will work on the masses who aren't educated on the matter. They say by the tenth time you hear something, you start to believe it. That's how advertising works. If you say "clean coal" enough times, people will believe it is a real thing!
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Elligirl
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Vierotchka
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The only real clean coal, crystal clear clean, is diamonds.
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Vierotchka
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victimofcoal
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Last year in august there were 23 counties in the Appalachian mountains with contaminated water due to coal. This year the number is 41. This gray colored toxic water should be bottled and sent to every clean coal politician in America.
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victimofcoal
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MeganMcKenzie
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victimofcoal:
I agree and would be happy to help and yet then we would probably share a jail cell.
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MeganMcKenzie
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Elligirl
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Excellent post, crob.
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Elligirl
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crob80227
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Yeah, I live near Denver and I've seen these things.
I think it's effective because most people just assume that "clean" coal means: oh good! We've figured out a way to harvest and burn coal with no pollution! Let's do that!
The Clean Coal people have a really simple, easy to understand message and I think it's going to be tough to combat.
From a purely marketing point of view it's brilliant. Two simple word -- clean coal -- convey soooo much. True, it's an entirely false impression of the reality of coal mining and burning, but knowing people don't like to research things on their own (and want to believe there are simple answers to problems) I suspect this campaign is working.
Because how do rebutt such a simple message?
You could drive around with a picture of an abandonded mountain top removal operation to display the damage and say "There Is No Such Thing As Clean Coal" but would that work?
Oh, and don't you just hate the false dicotomy presented: we can either burn coal or everyone in Virgina will starve to death due to unemployment.
Subtle.
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crob80227
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SeaJade
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Maybe the "people" that run exxonmobile and those pushing for "clean" coal are from another planet and the only way they can survive is on toxins,black bellowing smoke stacks,topless mountains, treeless landscapes and oil laden oceans with dead marine animals adrift, with fear and slavery added as spice - it must make them feel good, like clean water, air, food and freedom makes humans feel good - perhaps thats how we can tell the difference between some interstellar species.
Thank you for all your hard work Megan! - 3 years ago
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SeaJade
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huntre
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When I first read that message my reaction was, "It's trying to appeal to lowest common denominator". Someone who reacts before thinking.
I still feel that way about it and the folks who came up with it.
Less than subtle fear-mongering. - 3 years ago
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huntre
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Wetdog
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huntre:
Most of the people who support "clean coal" don't seem to think at all to me, either BEFORE OR AFTER.
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Wetdog
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MeganMcKenzie
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There is no end to Exxon and Clean Coal in their ways to entice folks to buy their propaganda.
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MeganMcKenzie
