Green | December 03, 2008 | 41 comments

Hawaii to be 1st state with electric car stations

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HONOLULU – Hawaii has unveiled plans to be first in the nation to roll out electric car stations statewide — a move the governor hailed as a major step toward weaning the islands off oil.

Hawaii imports foreign oil for almost 90 percent of its energy needs. One-third of that oil is used to power cars and buses on island streets.

Gov. Linda Lingle said Tuesday the program would help Hawaii meet its goal of slashing fossil fuel use 70 percent by 2030.

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41 comments // Hawaii to be 1st state with electric car stations

  • skyking3525
  • SDLN
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      SDLN  
    • I lived in Arizona for a little over a year in the late '90's, and I was surprised to find designated electric car parking spots with power plugs at government buildings such as the post office. Of course, that was before the electric was said to have been killed. It's good that this is coming back around.

    • 3 years ago
  • williambudd
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      williambudd  
    • Hawaii burns fossil fuel to generate almost all of it's electricity, the electricity that is needed to run the electric cars. Hawaii needs a way to generate enrgy that is clean, not just a different way to continue burning oil to create it.
      This is just another BOGUS photo-opportunity for Lingle to try and prop herself up. Lingle has nothing to offer except petty partisan politics and more of the same rotten leadership that has put our country into this mess.

    • 3 years ago
  • diode
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      diode  
    • good for them. it is easier however when you are around 42nd least populated in the country. its a good step though

    • 3 years ago
  • MrButterCuts
  • ssppeencceerr
  • ClusterAble
  • wilmo1975
  • Dalatias
  • RCS
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      RCS  
    • This is a great idea for Hawaii. I just hope that they can find a clean energy way to provide the initial power to charge the electric cars in the first place.

    • 3 years ago
  • metalcookiesxy70
  • nessie00
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      nessie00  
    • Why would Hawaii not only be the first but only state seriously making this happen? The sad thing is the Big three trashed their electric cars years ago.

    • 3 years ago
  • damnneargenius
  • heidilittle
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      heidilittle  
    • We are doing alot with sustainability here in Austin, Texas.The world at large is posing the right questions, and is beginning to become the right attitude.
      And the question is this. Is there a way to power a car purely by the sun ? And convert an old engine and roof to do this with existing cars ??

      In my minds eye I see a crystal but my family says I"m thinking sci fi and unrealisticly.. :)

      Love and light

    • 3 years ago
  • superkiy
  • Tori
  • the_night_diver
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      the_night_diver  
    • glad to see someone step it up.

      i went to the big island, Hawaii, last summer and noticed how there isn't a lot of road. only 40 minutes or so of scenic driving to get to the other side.

      if we reduce all that pollution cars generate, we can save one of the last few paradises on earth.

    • 3 years ago
  • tmfs
  • Swiyyah
  • CalgarC
  • ChickenTrain
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      ChickenTrain  
    • Hawaii has the potential to become what Iceland was before the financial crisis knocked them around. A test bed for sustainable energy.. both have incredible geothermal potential, not to mention Hawaii's abundance of sunshine. Icelanders were working to build a hydrogen economy based upon their geothermal resources. Hawaii can work to build an electric economy based on geothermal. Exciting times!

    • 3 years ago
  • hallcrash2000
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      hallcrash2000  
    • Hawaii ranks third in the nation use of renewable energy relative to the state's total electricity production. 25% of that energy production is Geothermal. One biomass power plant exsists on the "big Island",supplying about 7-10 percent of the island's power needs. The rest of the power plants use combustion turbine generators (Coal), a major source of air pollution. Electric cars will put a tremendous strain on that system. It cant make it better.

    • 3 years ago
  • J_Jammer
  • krush_productions
  • Kallico75
  • tmfs
  • matthewcohen
  • crob80227
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      crob80227  
    • Wave powered generators? Hawaii has a lot of waves.

      Geo thermal? I hear Hawaii has some volcanic activity.

      It's quicker to put the cars on the road than to build a new power station....so I can forgive them for going with cars first.

      Even if it takes some time to replace how the energy is produced it's still ultimately cleaner for the islands because you've removed engine exhaust from the equation.

    • 3 years ago
  • simplecj
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      simplecj  
    • The energy in the batteries still has to come from somewhere! On an island hundreds of miles into the Pacific with a delicate ecosystem, there is much consideration into how to supply all that extra energy that will be replacing gasoline.

      AND... if they can't afford to ship old cars out for scrap, they how do you think they are going to pay the thousands of dollars per car to be converted into electric?

      The whole point of electric is to do it efficiently. Old gas hogs and even newer ones are too heavy to be efficient as an electric car.

      Hawaii has mostly tiny little two lane roads and a max speed of 45 to 55 on their freeways, 25 on most other roads. I think what they're wanting to to is get smaller and lighter cars, that are built for electric power, imported to replace the bigger cars that are way overpowered for such slow speeds.

      But the question remains as it does in San Fransisco,,, where is that electricity going to come from???

    • 3 years ago
  • Jacques_of_Spades
  • AmberT
  • simplecj
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      simplecj  
    • Well... there are still problems with this. I was in Hawaii this summer and was talking with a tour guide about how power is produced on the island. He said that they have power plants on the less populated side of the island, but there is still problems with pollution. They need to also adopt some large scale clean energy to help fuel all of these cars.

      Funny thing is that I don't remember seeing any electric cars there, not in Waikiki nor Maui... but there were WAY MORE cars than I expected to see on such small islands. They need to ship cars out if they want to bring in new ones!

      I specifically remember the tour guide saying that because of all the rental cars on the island and the fact that the old cars never leave, there are almost 2 registered and running cars to every 1 resident of Hawaii. It's actually a problem because people end up with junk yards full of old cars and it's too expensive to ship them out for scap so they just continue to pile up.

    • 3 years ago
  • AmberT
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      AmberT  
    • simplecj:

      The way this infrastructure works is to have battery stations everywhere like gas stations and you switch them out for long journeys. The batteries in the system will be used to store energy, which is why Denmark is rolling out this plan. Check out their website to learn more: http://www.betterplace.com/

    • 3 years ago
  • AmberT
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      AmberT  
    • simplecj:

      Another thing you can take old gas dinosaurs and convert them to electrics, so that is another use of the old junkers. As soon as my gas car dies I plan to do an electric conversion.

    • 3 years ago
  • simplecj
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      simplecj  
    • simplecj:

      Ya, but you're missing my point... the energy in the batteries still has to come from somewhere! On an island hundreds of miles into the Pacific with a delicate ecosystem, there is much consideration into how to supply all that extra energy that will be replacing gasoline.

      AND... if they can't afford to ship old cars out for scrap, they how do you think they are going to pay the thousands of dollars per car to be converted into electric?

      The whole point of electric is to do it efficiently. Old gas hogs and even newer ones are too heavy to be efficient as an electric car.

      Hawaii has mostly tiny little two lane roads and a max speed of 45 to 55 on their freeways, 25 on most other roads. I think what they're wanting to to is get smaller and lighter cars, that are built for electric power, imported to replace the bigger cars that are way overpowered for such slow speeds.

      But the question remains as it does in San Fransisco,,, where is that electricity going to come from???

    • 3 years ago
  • neckfire
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      neckfire  
    • simplecj:

      Cars don't last very long in Hawaii. All the sea air makes them rust out a lot quicker than they would on the mainland. Converting rustbuckets into electrics might be an exercise in futility.

    • 3 years ago
  • RCS
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      RCS  
    • simplecj:

      It seems to me that Hawaii needs to find some way to recycle all of these old cars on the island for the metal in them. Or maybe a place could be found to dump them offshore to create artificial reefs as has been done with old subway cars and boats.

    • 3 years ago
  • bansheewail
  • larock
  • islek
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      islek  
    • Hawaii is probably one of the better places for the United States to implement this. Driving distances are limited, so these vehicles will be efficient on the islands. Also, the lower demand for oil will mean fewer shipments to Hawaii. It's cost effective all around!

    • 3 years ago
  • alman365
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