Dangers of energy efficient bulbs
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freal
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This story is a lot of baloney. Small amounts of mercury have been in fluorescent light bulbs for decades. The lights in public schools, lights in shopping centers and even lights in hospitals are all fluorescent and all contain mercury.Granted if they are broken care most be taken. But for safety purposes their glass construction is stronger than traditional incadescent lights.
- 3 years ago
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freal
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whipplelicks
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funny you have to drive a car and make a special trip to recyle this toxic bulb how much energy are we actually saving?
- 3 years ago
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whipplelicks
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covelogibbs
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Hopefully, subsecret, with the proper education, people will turn off their lights when not in use and recycle their poisonous bulbs.
I don't think that's asking too much.
CFLs should be phased out as soon as possible. If the utilities have to "push" something, they should "push" the LEDs.
- 3 years ago
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covelogibbs
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NFUSA
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does this apply to cfl's also? that's very disturbing since we at home have made the switch to them to save energy and money. what can we do about this if incandescents are being phased out?
- 3 years ago
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NFUSA
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ReVOfx
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oh please dont tell me you people believe this hogwash?
1. The amount of UV radiation emitted is FAR FAR FAR less compared to walking outside in the sun. The same amount of UV from one hour in the sun would take a year under a florescent bulb.
2. UV light CANNOT penetrate glass and most plastics. The plastic is usually designed to allow UV to pass through. ie. tanning beds.
3. DONT BREAK THEM! no duh there is mercury in them they are Florescent bulbs... If a break occurs dont breath, let the dust settle and clean it up.
I'm surprised that such things are not widely known.
- 3 years ago
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ReVOfx
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twohawks
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Thanks for this important post, Maggie.
- 3 years ago
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twohawks
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stopnoise
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The other day I accidentally broke one of these CFL and I had to run out of the room immediately to not inhale its fumes. I comeback latter with mask and gloves to clean up the mess. Now, disposing the mess become another issue as I do not want to throw it in the City recycle bin. Researching on Google, my top hit was;
http://earth911.com/blog/2008/05/19/cfl-recycling-rates-remain-low/
- 3 years ago
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stopnoise
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covelogibbs
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stopnoise:
I think once they're broken they are landfill, because where I recycle my bulbs, they won't take broken ones.
- 3 years ago
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covelogibbs
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stopnoise
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stopnoise:
Good queston "covelogibbs!"
-What do I do with my broken CFL?
I am still have it packed in a plastic bag.
- 3 years ago
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stopnoise
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Ironglove
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There are many types of bulbs that have been around for years and contain mercury as well:
Fluorescents, including linear straight tubes, U-shaped, circular and compact fluorescents, Neon bulbs, Ultraviolet bulbs, High-intensity discharge bulbs (HID) which include: Mercury vapor, Metal halide and High pressure sodium.
If disposed of properly the risk is very small. Why have we not heard of the "risks" from these types of bulbs? - 3 years ago
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Ironglove
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ii386
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Burning coal releases mercury too. The amount of coal saved from burning by switching to CFL actually means that you keeping gaseous mercury out of the atmosphere. So fight your battles. CFL lightbulbs can be safely disposed of at collection bins at Home Depot and other places. Similar to fluorescent tubes, a broken CFL bulb will release mercury into the air....so don't breathe it in dumbasses.
Who didn't know these bulbs have mercury? This video is pretty ridiculous.
- 3 years ago
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ii386
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covelogibbs
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ii386:
Well, in Austrailia, where they apparently don't label the bulbs as containing mercury, some people wouldn't know about this. They should be labeled, everyone deserves to know, so they can manage their risk.
- 3 years ago
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covelogibbs
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covelogibbs
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After watching this, "Dangers of energy efficient bulbs," I may have bought my last compact florescent bulb.
Sure, LEDs are expensive, but your family is worth it.
- 3 years ago
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covelogibbs
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Dunedigger
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I honestly thought it was common knowledge that CFL bulbs were toxic, I mean, it says so right on the box.
- 3 years ago
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Dunedigger
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I have a question. When LNG (LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS) IS converted back to gas (re gasified) what are the dangers?
I live in Ireland and am researching that right now. Pierce Brosnan (the former James Bond) put in an objection to it here after campaigning against a re gasification terminal in California (where he moved to).
Does some of the groundwater get contaminated or what? Pierce said it was a health and safety risk .....on both the California terminal and the one here.Anyone able to tell me please?
- 3 years ago
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csmonut
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Highr0ller:
Got this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LNG
Some environmental groups argue strongly against the use of LNG. One study concluded that a proposed LNG terminal near Oxnard, California would emit less than 23 million tons of CO2 equivalent per year.[4] On the West Coast of the United States where up to five new LNG importation terminals have been proposed, environmental groups, such as Pacific Environment, Ratepayers for Affordable Clean Energy (RACE), and Rising Tide have moved to oppose them.[5] Whilst natural gas power plants emit approximately half the carbon dioxide of an equivalent coal power plant, the natural gas combustion required to produce and transport LNG to the plants adds 20 to 40 percent more carbon dioxide than burning natural gas alone.[6] With the extraction, processing, chilling transportation and conversion back to a usable form is taken into account LNG is a major source of greenhouse gases.
The safety part of the article is toward the bottom.
Never thought about LNG before, except it would be a great target for terrorists. The ocean going tankers are especially vulnerable. - 3 years ago
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csmonut
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4saken
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They did studies on this years ago. The radiation isn't a health hazard even at 10cm, and the emissions decrease rapidly at further distances.
And I thought everyone knew fluorescent bulbs had mercury, they run on mercury vapor after all.
- 3 years ago
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4saken
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cantucwearebrothers
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Another thing that was pushed down the publics throat by the government that ended up biting us in the ass.
Thank you.
- 3 years ago
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cantucwearebrothers
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justright
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Does she or her son break the bulbs (kids like to break things) while throwing them away? How did the mercury get released? This story is unfortunate but all things come with inherent risks.
- 3 years ago
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justright
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covelogibbs
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"Another question to ask is: when these bulbs are thrown away in our trash, what kind of impact does the mercury have?"
I hope you're kidding with this question, however you sound serious.
I can not emphasize enough the importance of recycling your CFLs. Along with batteries, CFLs are one of the most important things to avoid throwing in the trash. Sure, it's important to recycle all your cans, glass, paper, etc, but some of the most important items to divert from our landfills are batteries, CFL bulbs and electronics. These contain heavy metals that pose extra problems leaching out of landfills and into ground water and our environment.
Other than your local recycling center, like frady said above, hardware stores often recycle your CFL's free of charge. Also, some businesses such as IKEA, WholeFoods and others offer in store recycling (check your local stores, as they differ in what they accept).
It's a small world after all, please recycle.
I'm starting to switch over from CFL's to LED's, one bulb at a time. I bought four LED's for Christmas, two "white" and two "warm." So far, I like the "warm" bulbs better, but they aren't quite as bright.
Unless we start buying more LED bulbs, the price won't come down.
In California, PG&E (the electric utility) subsidizes CFL bulbs. I thinks it's time for them to end that practice and start subsidizing LED bulbs.
The time is now.
- 3 years ago
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covelogibbs
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csmonut
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covelogibbs:
When I checked the price of LEDs, they were running about 20-30 bucks each.
Where did you get yours? - 3 years ago
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csmonut
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covelogibbs:
I got mine at my local "green" store, "Organic Grace." In my small town the price of everything seems to be extra high. I paid $40 for each G70 LED, but on a search just now, e-bay had a "buy it now" price of $18.99 for the same bulb. I could have saved some money by shopping online, but I wanted to do all my Christmas shopping locally.
My next LED purchase will probably be for the least expensive ones I can find, local or not!
One benefit that LED bulbs have over CFLs is that there is no warm up time. They are on at full brightness as soon as you flip the switch.
- 3 years ago
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covelogibbs
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csmonut
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covelogibbs:
I went online and looked up the LEDs, but not knowing a whole lot about them, I did not know which ones to get for regular household lamps.
I'll be watching out for the G70s now that I know.
Thanks! - 3 years ago
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csmonut
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csmonut
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Unfortunately LED lights are very expensive, and like many others, I have CFLs throughout the house.
As soon as the price of LEDs comes down...I'm replacing every bulb. - 3 years ago
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csmonut
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covelogibbs
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csmonut:
Could this be a "catch 22?"
Will the prices ever come down if we don't start buying them? I'm sure eventually they will, but how long will it take?
My plan is to replace one bulb at a time.
- 3 years ago
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covelogibbs
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frady
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It's important to find an area recycler who will take and remake these CFL bulbs. My local hardware store does it for me.
- 3 years ago
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frady
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SeaJade
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Thank you so much for posting this article. Yes, indeed, mercury is toxic. Sadly, it is everywhere, in our teeth (if you have mercury fillings), in fish (if you eat fish), and in our air. This young boy was fortunate to have seen a doctor who understands the signs of mercury poisoning. Reducing energy use from fossil fuels does not mean we have to get crazy and substitute fire with fire... we, as citizens, and during this period of transition from fossil fuels to sustainable energy (solar and wind is the best we have) will need to get very smart very quickly to make wise choices if we are to leave a planet worth living on for future generations (that means your children if you have them and love them). Toxins have an adverse affect on our lives.... just the way it is, you put toxins in, you will experience sickness on various levels depending upon your own system, your lifestyle, and how much exposure you have. If you do a search on youtube for example, "mercury poisoning", you will find much information from professionals to parents speaking about mercury and other toxins.
- 3 years ago
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SeaJade
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cerealforeal
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Good thing the word is out.
- 3 years ago
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cerealforeal
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stephenthomson
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ergggg.... my house is full of CFL's now. I hope they're not giving me skin cancer.
- 3 years ago
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stephenthomson
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ampersand
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Nothing scarier to me than hearing that a suddenly controversial product has "Industry accepted levels of exposure.."
- 3 years ago
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ampersand
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Found_Avenue
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unbelievable.
- 3 years ago
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Found_Avenue
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Dunedigger
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This is why they should stop pushing those bulbs and start pushing LED bulbs. They last longer and there aren't any adverse side effects from dangerous elements.
- 3 years ago
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