Total destruction of plant life near Mexican to help the War on Drugs.
source: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6335446.html
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If successful, this "solution" may be used in other places. Let's contemplate a mile wide no-grow zone all along our Mexican and Canadian borders.
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glabadabadoo
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How is Bush still able to keep doing these things?
- 2 years ago
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glabadabadoo
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AveryMoore
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glabadabadoo:
gladadabadoo writes,
"How is Bush still able to keep doing these things?"
Excellent question!
Who says Obama's in charge of this?
This looks to me like something planned logistically and implemented now by holdovers from the last administration.
The press now report that not only Mexicans are outraged by this idiocy - so are concerned Americans who realize that the wind can drift this north onto their own property.
No big deal?
It became a big deal when it was announced that the sprays used hadn't been tested - at all.
Sound familiar?
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AveryMoore
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glabadabadoo
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glabadabadoo:
Someone is in charge of it now and we need some change. Anyone care for some agent orange laced paraquat? I bet monsanto is the producer of this untested poison. They hedge their bet by contributing to both sides of the duopoly.
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glabadabadoo
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uppityprogressive
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This administration, just as any other, must be held accountable for its human rights abuses.
- 2 years ago
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uppityprogressive
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vistapoint
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yikes! there is nothing good about this.
even if you don't think about the long-lasting all-encompassing effects of spreading poison around, with all our technology this is also an embarrassing and shameful approach to border control.
- 2 years ago
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vistapoint
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skomie111
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What can we, the people of the U.S. do about this?
- 2 years ago
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skomie111
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jubal
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Right on Avery, thanks for all the data. I hope people actually read it and learn from it.
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jubal
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cerealforeal
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Wow, what group of dumb-fuck robots without common logic devised this plan?
Legalize it already.
- 2 years ago
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cerealforeal
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AveryMoore
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Vietnam-era defoliants?
Are the usual corporate suspects at it again?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
"Early in the American military effort it was decided that since the enemy were hiding their activities under triple-canopy jungle a useful first step might be to defoliate certain areas. This was especially true of growth surrounding bases (both large and small) in what became known as Operation Ranch Hand."
"Corporations like Dow Chemical and Monsanto were given the task of developing herbicides for this purpose. The defoliants, which were distributed in drums marked with color-coded bands, included the "Rainbow Herbicides"—Agent Pink, Agent Green, Agent Purple, Agent Blue, Agent White, and, most famously, Agent Orange, which included dioxin as a by-product of its manufacture."
"About 12 million gallons (45 000 000 L) of Agent Orange were sprayed over Southeast Asia during the American involvement. A prime area of Ranch Hand operations was in the Mekong Delta, where the U.S. Navy patrol boats were vulnerable to attack from the undergrowth at the water's edge."
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"In 1961 and 1962, the Kennedy administration authorized the use of chemicals to destroy rice crops. Between 1961 and 1967, the U.S. Air Force sprayed 20 million U.S. gallons (75 700 000 L) of concentrated herbicides over 6 million acres (24 000 km2) of crops and trees, affecting an estimated 13% of South Vietnam's land."
"As of 2006, the Vietnamese government estimates that there are over 4,000,000 victims of dioxin poisoning in Vietnam, although the United States government denies any conclusive scientific links between Agent Orange and the Vietnamese victims of dioxin poisoning."
"In some areas of southern Vietnam dioxin levels remain at over 100 times the accepted international standard."
"The U.S. Veterans Administration has listed prostate cancer, respiratory cancers, multiple myeloma, type II diabetes, Hodgkin’s disease, non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, soft tissue sarcoma, chloracne, porphyria cutanea tarda, peripheral neuropathy, and spina bifida in children of veterans exposed to Agent Orange."
"Although there has been much discussion over whether the use of these defoliants constituted a violation of the laws of war, the defoliants were not considered weapons, since exposure to them did not lead to immediate death or incapacitation."
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AveryMoore
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jubal
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This is truly got to be the most asinine plan, whose brain child is this? From a strategic perspective, I can totally understand the need for wide visual clear zones to allow for maximum safety and monitoring, but there are some things that could impact the ecology of the area that could cause irreversible damage. This plan seems to be bordering on such damage occurring.
For one thing, as you did mention agent orange, what kind of chemicals are they going to be using on this? What impact will those chemicals have on the river? The Caribbean?
With all those satellites the government has up there watching the United States with high definition imaging devices capable of reading the license plate off a car or thermally imaging the occupants of a house; surely they would be able to observe all the people crossing the border between Mexico and the US. Some genius computer programmer should be able to write a program that acts like a motion detector while it observes the boarder, focusing video attention to the areas with the most movements.
My point is that there are more hi tech solutions that could and should be used in this operation before blindly spraying deforestation chemicals
- 2 years ago
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jubal
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AveryMoore
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jubal:
Here we go again! Defoliants are overkill. Obviously nothing prohibits US overflights by DEA or any other agency otherwise under what law is such defoliation allowed? So why is it necessary to kill the Mexican countryside?
The page below was posted NINE YEARS AGO.
http://cannabisnews.com/news/5/thread5978.shtml
It says in part.
"Approximately 40 percent of the nation's marijuana plants come from West Virginia, Tennessee and Kentucky, causing local, state and federal law enforcement agencies to proclaim this 65-county region the Appalachian High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area."
"The local marijuana is so high in THC (Tetra Hydro Cannabinol) content, the psychoactive substance, that it is being traded for cocaine and "crystal meth," which bring in societal problems associated with more urban areas."
"Based on a Hyperspectral Sensor System, which ORINCON developed with Rancho Bernardo, Calif.-based Surface Optics Corporation, the new "pot-buster" camera can detect marijuana plants from an elevation of 5,000 feet, and from several hundred yards on the ground, against a backdrop of heavy vegetation."
"This sophisticated technology can even differentiate a marijuana plant from hemp, a similar, but legal plant used to make rope and clothing. This technology can also be used to detect environmental pollution."
"We have developed powerful software techniques and digitally enhanced high-resolution images to provide law enforcement officials and environmental agencies with an edge," said Dr. Dan Alspach, President and CEO of ORINCON. "This is a sophisticated, clever tool that has far-reaching uses. We plan to use our expertise in digital signal processing and data fusion to further enhance the capability of this system."
"The Hyperspectral Sensor System works by breaking portions of the optical spectrum into as many as 30 unique colors at a rate of 30 times per second. First, the instrument quantifies the spectral energy in each image and then uses this to build a matched filter "tuned' to the specific target. For marijuana detection, the image is processed further to yield a clear feature identification of the illegal activity."
"Preliminary tests indicate that the same techniques used for detecting local marijuana crops may also be appropriate for identifying coca, opium poppy fields, and various types of pollution, including oil spills and acid mine drainage. ORINCON plans to offer this technology through an imaging analysis service available to federal, state and local government agencies around the world."
--- further --- dated 2003
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/TGAM/20030129/UGROWN/...
"Police who investigate grow operations in Canada's largest province were dealt a blow this week when a judge declared that warrantless searches involving a type of infrared heat-detector are illegal. Known as forward-looking infrared, the equipment can be mounted on police aircraft -- and used for everything from finding missing people to hunting fugitives to unveiling the telltale heat signature of private houses that double as marijuana factories."
"We'll examine the ruling," said Constable Steve Morrell, a spokesman for York Regional Police, which looks after a huge area north of Toronto. He said that FLIR technology is used in the force's many marijuana investigations, which uncovered 170 grow ops last year. Still, FLIR is "just a tool, not the beginning, middle and end of any investigation."
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AveryMoore
