Green | July 01, 2009 | 23 comments

Founding Father Farmers: George Washington

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Many only know George Washington as the first President of the United States and an exemplary military leader. However, working his 8000 acre estate and farm at Mount Vernon was a part of him that was who he was. This is the second installment of Founding Father Farmers on the Sustainable Agriculture Channel to celebrate July 4th. It is also to celebrate the spirit of agriculture and self determination both born by the same passion General and President George Washington exemplified in leading our country to victory in the American Revolution.

" I know of no pursuit in which more real and important services can be rendered to any country than by improving its agriculture, its breed of useful animals, and other branches of a husbandman's cares. "

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23 comments // Founding Father Farmers: George Washington

  • metalcookiesxy70
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    • Again, I accept the agricultural fact, but all of whom agrees with Janforgore, and Jan herself, are ignoring the simple fact behind George Washington's agricultural fact that he and many others which thinks that blacks are lesser than humans, they KNEW that the slave trade route was still going on, they did have the power to stop it, but they ignored it....All of you sSHOULD aware of this, but in yet, you obviously don't, at least, Jan, you should have mentioned this in your post, but, you are too quick to judge the opposing sides, enough to call them ignorant, before they can get their point completely across, you should really be ashamed of such, but of course, you refuse to listen, to anyone opposing your "facts"

      Again, it doesnt matter if each idi not exactly owned a slave, and f they actaully against, they should have abolished slavery altogether, but they did not did they? No.

      @Jan,

      Maybe you should'nt post something to celebrate of a person who was unjustly to fair treatment, which does pertain to this post, if you of course realize it enough....No one can't be ignorant but you, calling people igonrant, so willingly to attack, than to negotiate, how big do you really think you are?
      You are being immature lately, even on other posts...

      In a solution of Will Rogers said, George Washington Carver will perfectly suit the agriculture world, he contributed in a far better standard than any of the founding fathers had done, and he was a very wise man.....

    • 2 years ago
  • libertyhemp
  • nursediesel
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    • You know sometimes it must be said, 'If you don't have something nice to say be quiet'. Or maybe ' better to appear stupid than to open your mouth and prove it'
      If you have an ax to grind put up your own site and we can comment there. Leave JanForGore alone.
      I for one am very thankful for this series she is posting and would like to enjoy them with out having to defend the greatness of the men who started the country you have the freedom to dis' them in because of them!!!!

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • nufsenuf
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    • nursediesel:

      While I tend to agree with you as to "if you can't say something nice", with all due respect, Will is an old sole and has a moral compass that we all can aspire to. I think the genus of Current is that we all come together, virtually in disguise, to express things that we cannot otherwise express. Thus, a little slack is mandatory, and furthermore required, if we are all to benefit from the exercise, and "pay it forward". This is only My perception and my only reason to come here - the free, unfettered ability to state my mind and pull in what ever comes from that. I just think that here, we can all exercise a little "wiggle room" and begin to expand our previously smaller realms to safely entertain and explore other realities than our own - that is why we are all here, no? Just sayin, this should be a safe place and a kind place - just me saying that.PS: Love the Nurse Diesel - "Fruit Cup" Sluuuuuuurp!!! Perfect!!

    • 2 years ago
  • nursediesel
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    • Metalcookie and Virtual_Will: In fact Thomas Jefferson inherited slaves with his marraige to Martha Wayles Skelton Jefferson.

      And again, Jefferson wanted to free ALL men with the Declaration of Independence but Ben Franklin with agreement of John Adams decided against TJ because they felt the southern states would not unite to fight against England in the revolution ifbecause they would feel threatened to lose their chief means of labor at that time.

      Keep in mind the leaders of the African tribes were selling their own people to profit for themselves.
      And the white ppeople that came here from England initially were slaves to England.
      The word slave comes from slavs who were enslaved centuries before the colonies exhisted.

      Slavery is an ancient fact. It happened all over the world and continues today in other countries.

    • 2 years ago
  • fillmore
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  • Virtual_Will_Rogers
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    • fillmore:

      ...Jefferson died in 1826...at that time photographs ...lasting photographs did not exist..if there was one it would be worth as much as the Mona Lisa....let this be the last...I think Jefferson was a brilliant man...not a God....and time creates God like people...it is happening to Michael Jackson in one week...no telling what will happen in 200 years...I would just like to hear more about Mother Teresa and others like her...that is all...

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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    • fillmore:

      I would just like to hear more about Mother Teresa and others like her...that is all...

      And with all the trash that passes through here you pick this thread to say that in?

    • 2 years ago
  • Virtual_Will_Rogers
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    • fillmore:

      Jan...please know that I did not mean to cause you any grief...I just feel very strongly about slavery...and this triggered that...I have been away from Current because of the Trash...nothing you have ever done qualifies for that category...the posts you have done about Earth ...water conservation....pollution...food banks...Monsanto and the poisoning of the Earth are beyond admirable...I should probably just keep things that bother me to myself...especially when they take a turn like this...it is hard when you care about something very deeply...as you well know....thank you Will

    • 2 years ago
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  • Virtual_Will_Rogers
  • nufsenuf
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    • Sustainable farming by those of us who don't farm for a living is growing (no pun intended) more popular and many projects to teach children and adults the basics of farming/growing are emerging everywhere. One that I am familiar with is based in my city - "Growing Power" - and it is a truly wonderful thing. Teaching kids the basics and introducing them to the wonders of our mother earth is essential if we are to continue to live on this beautiful planet in harmony with it. Corporate farming and all that goes with it does much to dilute the wonder of sowing a seed, caring for it and watching it become a strong, living thing - there's a humility that comes with the undertaking and wonder and appreciation, too. Or at least there should be. Thanks, JFG.

    • 2 years ago
  • Virtual_Will_Rogers
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    • I wrote some things yesterday about slave owners growing crops...I still hold to what I said...I can not picture any of them with their hands dirty...on their hands and knees...working the land...or clearing the land in the first place...the hardest part of the job...l am sorry that there are some that do not equate the early agriculture in America with slavery...and the early construction...including the Capitol...in San Antonio Texas there are many fine missions...the Catholic church captured Indians and made them lay rocks and grow crops for them..many tourists visit and are amazed by the missions...it loses its luster to me when you realize what went into creating it....but when it comes to agriculture there has always been a form of slavery associated...from the first crops to the present day...when people had ten children...those children worked very hard to plant and harvest...and many people around the world at this very time are sweating in the fields and making a small amount of money....growing the food to nourish the people of this planet is one of the most important tasks ever performed...and only gets more important each day....I just want the ones actually doing the hard work to get some recognition..as far as who had slaves and who did not...it is simple...rich people had slaves...poor people were slaves...it is still the same today...if you allow something really bad to happen and do nothing to try and change it...are you not a little guilty?...because there are many bad things happening today and so many are turning their back to it...and the ones that seem to care and want to bring about change are spending way too much time in arguments on this site....Golden Ruler...Will

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • Virtual_Will_Rogers
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    • Virtual_Will_Rogers:

      Jan ...you do not know the true spirit of any of these people...nor do I...it is hard enough to know the true spirit of those that are alive...or even yourself...even the most demonic of people seem to become a little angelic after death..and when legend takes over it is a whole new ball game....so I am not arguing with you just stating my opinion...that is all I have...the very same as you....I do know quite a substantial amount about history....I go back to Jefferson's time in four generations...not many if any can say that...I believe that Jefferson...Washington...Franklin...Adams...and so many that did so much were all great men....they were busy men and the whole problem here is that there was a generationally accepted view and participation of slavery that was wrong....they knew it and went along with it....just as we know about things and go along with them today...and yes...we will be judged in the future for our inactions today...and the buildings and crops...were designed by these men.....and planted and nurtured by slaves..I have designed and built many things...it is fun...I have cleared land and planted many crops....it is not fun....if you had mentioned this I would have no problem with your post at all....I have never seen you like this so I will never post on anything you do again...so I will not hurt your feelings...it is very important to acknowledge that no one person can do anything without the help of many people...and nothing good can ever come out of forcing someone to help you.....Will

    • 2 years ago
  • metalcookiesxy70
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    • I'd would get the agriculture part, of all things, that is a good contribution, but further more..

      Oh, but this does have the relative topic with the people and their backgrounds...

      Ah, Will, I see...

      Washington, Adams, and Jefferson..did not contribute directly to the agriculture of which you speak of, because it was their slaves, or somebody's slaves that actually did all of the work that has made it possible..

      Oh, but does matter not a the slightest of who owns slaves? They all are found slaves to be lesser of a human beings...

      Geogre Washington is guilty for still allowing the slave trade route to still continue, that meaning that all of them are guilty....For still allowing slaves...

      For says that ruining the tread is bad thing when a educative debating drawn?

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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    • metalcookiesxy70:

      Again, you are ignorant of history. Adams was a farmer and worked his own land as did his wife Abigail and children when he went overseas to France for the Continental Congress. Again, he had no slaves and found the practice abominable. And Jefferson and Washington did indeed work on their land and were very prolific regarding experimentation in hybridization of crops. You make it sound as though because I mention that they were farmers that it takes away from the contributions of those on the farms who also worked. Well once again, you are wrong, and you absolutely and entirely missed the point of this entire thread.

    • 2 years ago
  • metalcookiesxy70
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    • metalcookiesxy70:

      Ignorant of this post? How ignorant of you to call names...!

      Entirely missing the point of this thread?Your purpose is to clearly celebrate a white man for agriculture, which is not his own workings...plantations,Geogre Washington, yes is was him, refuse to believe it if you like, but its fact...

      Don't you know anything of which of what had happend, and YOU are missing/avoiding my point of that ALL of them think blacks are lesser than humans, they were nothing but a tool!

      I agree with Will here, I've never seen this before with you, the Presdient, combining it with green is not all perfect...

      Again, John, may have not owned slaves, that isn't the point, because ALL of them were aware of slavery and went along with it, and that is a PROVEN fact,

      History, you must know Jan...

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • metalcookiesxy70
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    • metalcookiesxy70:

      Um, I just said that so you I would your attention, besidesb of YOU being ignorant to this topic, you are seeming not to directly to respond to any of my statements, and therefore, you should never again post anything of George Washington ever again, if you do, you'll wish you shouldn't

      You're really being ignorant of defending George Washington like so?

      Accept of Geogre Wasington was ,and never post anything of him ever again....

      Begone, foul one...!

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • John Adams never owned slaves, and both Jefferson and Washington thought it an abomination that they sought to end. I wish people would actually read history and stop trying to ruin threads that are in regards to other topics. The topic here is their love of agriculture and how the feeling of freedom that gives extends to the freedom we fought for.

    • 2 years ago
  • davzap
  • JanforGore
  • nursediesel
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      nursediesel  
    • JanforGore:

      In fact Thomas Jefferson inherited slaves with his marraige to Martha Wayles Skelton Jefferson.

      And again, TJ, wanted to free ALL men with the Declaration of Independence but Ben Franklin with agreement of John Adams decided against TJ because they felt the southern states would not unite to fight against England in the revolution ifbecause they would feel threatened to lose their chief means of labor at that time.
      Keep in mind the leaders of the African tribes were selling their own people to profit for themselves.
      And the white ppeople that came here from England initially were slaves to England.
      The word slave comes from slavs who were enslaved centuries before the colonies exhisted.
      Slavery is an ancient fact. It happened all over the world and continues today in other countries.

    • 2 years ago
  • metalcookiesxy70
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      metalcookiesxy70  
    • George Washington is not exactly the first presdient of the Untied States, he was the first president, under the constitution...
      There were exactly several presidents before him...Also, giving to that meaning they were black, and that means that Barack Obama is not the first black presdient...

      As many Presdients in Geogre Washington's timeline were nothing more than haters of the colored..

      Back then all of those people were nothing more than religious rejects....

      George Washington's name as well as Jefferson's and John Adams's name cannot be praised in glory or honor for such horrible deeds they have committed..

      I'd say, 4th of July is truly independece when there arn't slaves to a economy, or war(racial, religious, and hate) for that matter....

    • 2 years ago
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