Amazon trees march in Durban for climate justice

Desperate tactics from desperate criminals who support the 1% by continuing to shill for doing nothing about this. You know nothing about how a true carbon tax that is revenue neutral works. You have no examples to show any failure of it. Yet you continually come into threads and push this hogwash on people because you think they are all ignorant enough to fall for it just because you have a political agenda regarding it. And that is exactly what entities like Koch Industries are counting on as well with the millions they spend (which you aren't complaining about) to lie about it. Congratulate yourself for giving them a victory where you are concerned.

In order to address the increase in global temperature that is fast bringing us to a tipping point which you don't seem to understand either, actions will need to be taken. You can pay a little more now for continuing to suck the oil tit (or cut back on your own gluttonous consumption and demand renewable energy) or pay later in losing this precious Earth's ecosystems. And all your politco babble isn't going to change that, nor some criminally hacked e-mails that prove absolutely nothing to dispute the settled science of the greenhouse effect and our part in forcing it to a place we have never been before along with the reality that people are now living with regarding its consequences.

REDD mechanisms for forests are not something I support. However, even indigenous communities at COP17 have come together to call for taxing the pollution AT THE SOURCE and that is exactly what needs to be done. Your retiscence to hold polluters accountable while holding "the economy will suffer" red herring over our heads as an excuse as we see the world's economic system crashing because we haven't looked more to renewable energy only shows your support of the 1%. That agenda is very clear.

But the scientists, totally in league with the 1% lied, right? Facts are facts...none of the 1% global warming promotion talking points can change that.

Again, you provide no substance.

Seriously, dude. Government doesn't equal the 1%. If it did, then the Koch brothers wouldn't have the tea party.

Think about the things you say.

TAXES only go to the 1% through corruption, the large majority of taxes collected get distributed, which is why rich people want LOWER TAXES.

Jeeze.

That is such a troll argument, by the way.

I have tried two days in a row to post an update on the Chevron spill, but I still haven't seen the article make an appearance or get a comment.

your observations hit the nail on the head Jan

It is sad , but i too have noticed the dilution of relevant posts with .... fluff , or what i call non stories . "Celebrities" personal lives that i do not know and have no reason what so ever to be interested in . so much so , that i have recently decided to use the voting stories down function , which i had not really used up to this point . Also i am vexed i cannot extend stories i post to ACTIVE participants on current . Those following me are in the hundreds and since i can only send to the first 99 ( 3 or 4 active participants ) many stories languish in obscurity , like this one . Blocking the abandoned posters didn't work . These two things are part of the problem . I just do not know how to fix them...

I just saw a survey where people voting for what was important placed jobs ffirst with the environment getting only 2% of the vote.... so obviously many people do not understand the link between jobs and the environment. If they did they would know that sustainable jobs are what will not only help the environment but the economy. This is one of the disconnects that give politicians excuses not to to do anything about this even though they know this too.

many people are still walking and working in their sleep...the powers that be are too few to implement all the terrible decisions they make without having a legion of people willing to do anything for a paycheck. No jobs? There is always the military. If we all stopped playing their game it would end their control.

Absolutely. Our wants taking precedence over our needs which fires the demand that fires this destruction is an important part of this equation.

Yes, that's what vultures do.

My son was reading up on this and told me China just backed out. I'm going to look up some news on this and talk more about that later. This is very disappointing and dangerous for our future.

Or maybe Ferngully.

If this bill goes through the Amazon may one day be gone , and it is the lungs of our planet. But maybe that is what has to happen to wake humans up as a whole. I really don't know anymore.

one of my favorite parts of the whole novel

Mine too.