Could Obama Craft Horse Trade Deal For Keystone XL?
source: http://fuelfix.com/blog/2013/02/15/keystone-for-climate-could-obama-craft-a-horse-trade
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Just read this and am concerned this could be what happens. The EPA will propose new rules for existing coal power plants then Obama will approve the Keystone XL pipeline (the decision was already pushed back to June I believe) in an attempt to please both environmentalists and the fossil fuel industry in a clear political move. They will then quantify it by stating the emissions saved from the mew EPA rules will more than offset anything emitted from the pipeline and push the job creation angle of it.
Personally, I see this as very possible because neither Obama nor many politicians in general seem to truly understand the moral imperative of keeping the carbon in the ground. This is about pleasing enough demographics to keep winning elections and securing campaign donations. There are elections coming up next year. Hopefully, I am wrong, but even Obama stated in the SOTU that we won't get 100% of what we want which already showed me those in DC in the majority do not have a clue as to the moral consequences of this crisis.
Also see:
http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentaries/191468781.html
Expect Betrayal From Obama On Keystone
Hard not to agree with this article based on what we've seen, or that is, not seen so far. Political doublespeak seems to be what this is all about.
By Bonnie Blodgett
A huge climate rally is raging in D.C. as you read this, sparked by a decision the president will make -- any day now -- to either approve or reject the oil industry's request to complete the Keystone XL pipeline, which is slated to carry the filthiest crude oil on the planet from Canadian tar sands down through the American breadbasket to ports in Texas for passage not to customers in the United States, as we've been falsely promised, but the Far East.
Tar-sands oil requires massive amounts of energy to procure and refine. That's before it's burned. A leak in the pipeline could further degrade the already polluted (with fossil-fuel-based fertilizer runoff) groundwater in our country's agricultural heartland. Keystone will create scant American jobs while adding billions to the balance sheets of American multinationals whose targeted growth markets in the Third World will increasingly supply their most valued workers as well.
This decision is pivotal. It will either establish the United States as the leader in slowing fossil-fuel dependence, or it will demonstrate with breathtaking clarity that, contrary to our own socially responsible self-image, we are at our core a rogue nation, quite possibly the most irresponsible in world history.
This decision is important also because it represents a rare opportunity for this president to leapfrog the whole messy bargaining process that has been his scapegoat for the continued existence of banks "too big to jail," as one pundit put it, to Guantanamo, to guns. For once he has a golden opportunity to not just preach about right and wrong, but to stand up to those same adversaries who keep derailing his dreams for a better America and to throw a sizable wrench in their plans.
On the fate of Keystone, the president has the final say. No horse-trading required. It's open field running to "meaningful progress" (Obama's term) not through market-based solutions but by confronting the problem head-on.
By "problem," I mean both warming and that other menace: corporate manipulation and greed. Obama's oil-lobby-sponsored opponents in Congress can't block his Keystone decision with a never-ending filibuster. If he says no on Keystone, that's it. Done. And in that one gesture he can silence the doubters who think his awakenings on gay rights and immigration reform (for example) were inspired more by political expediency than conviction.
"He's gonna cave," I e-mailed a friend as the president wrapped up his spirited energy spiel with one more pie-in-the-sky solution -- a government-sponsored research think tank that would speed those market-based solutions. (Wonder if Exxon Mobil's rumored geo-engineering research to redirect solar rays might qualify for a grant.) I knew that Keystone was a go when Obama let it slip that "naturally" he'd be granting a whole slew of new oil and gas permits as part of the energy independence effort.
Kicking the can down the road is something this president has gotten pretty good at, and politically speaking it has served him well. I guess it should come as no surprise that he's willing to bet our planet's future on the hope that we can have it both ways on this one, too.
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Bonnie Blodgett is a St. Paul writer.
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Really kinda wondering what's going to happen when;
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/21/whistleblower-fired-for-revealing-cops-thr...
I mean, historically speaking, when there are so many people; thinking, plotting, and some maybe actively pursuing assassination plots.....
Oh about the topic, he probably will, and in the face of such environmental terrorism it's logical to expect that equal and opposite direct force could, not necessarily that it would happen, be applied to destroying their construction.
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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Imagine that, a bi-partisan compromise on an issue most Americans want. That is highly unusual and suspect. Explain to me why I should care about a pipeline that runs through states which are notorious for shitting in their own backyards?
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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hawk5000
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I personal think we should be taking a closer look at the befits of building the pipe line. How many jobs will it create? How much revenue will it create? What is important to remember is this oil is going to come out of the ground weather we build the pipe line or not.
Either we build the pipe line and have this oil being refined in America. Or Canada is going to build a pipe line to the coast and all that oil is going to go to China or some other country. It will get extracted and refined one way or the other. It all comes down to who gets a cut.
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hawk5000
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hawk5000:
I'll explain without hitting you with a minus. it will allow more oil to flow into the world market which should ease pricing. Unfortunately, there is also a small risk of a large environmental catastrophe. That will teach you to ask a reasonable question on a Lorax post.
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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BrushwithDeathToothpaste:
So your argument is, it is better to have the environmental disaster happen to Canada and not the United States?
Weather we build the pipe line or not Canada is going to extract the oil. Weather the oil is piped to the Canadian coast for export or thru the US for export we will still be at risk of a natural disaster. Since we are at risk either way we should get some of the benefits.
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MSII
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- related issue, petition against fracker, please have a look!
Tell President Obama: Don't appoint fracking proponent Dr. Ernest Moniz to lead the Department of Energy
http://act.credoaction.com/r/?r=10196874&p=doe&id=55122-5007522-u2RT8Xx&...
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MSII
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Leen61
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MSII:
Signed!
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Leen61
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mitekillem
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For the price they're paying for this pipeline, wouldn't it just make more sense to have the refineries closer to the raw materials??? Seriously.
What's next, are they going to try to move Mt Rushmore closer to the White House???
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mitekillem
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MSII
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mitekillem:
the right-wingers will cut ya a deal on that as long as they get to put holy-saint-reagan-the-mad up on it!
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MSII
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Leen61
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Welcome back, Jan! As for the article you posted, this is probably what will happen, sadly.
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Leen61
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JanforGore
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Leen61:
I think you are correct based on who he is looking to appoint to the EPA and the Dept.Of Energy. Gina McCarthy for EPA I think will work to see those new carbon rules for exisitng plants put into place (and hopefully they won't bow down to Republicans in Congress and those who will be looking to derail it) which is not in and of itself a bad thing. However, if it is only being done to set up a compromise politically to allow the northern leg of the Keystone to be approved we have a problem. And the person he is naming for Dept of Energy, Dr. Ernest Moniz is a fracking proponent. I signed a petition to have Obama rethink that -http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/doe/?rc=fb_share1&r_by=55019-2455059-oWy...
even though I don't think it will work, but we have to keep trying and putting on pressure... (I long for the day when we see an indigenous Native American appointed to an environmental cabnet position. You would think a truly Progressive president would do that instead of continuing to bow down to the corporations.) And then we wait to see what happens. I think people need to realize that first and foremost Obama is a politican and he is going to do what keeps votes and contributions coming to Democrats and endearing the other side to keep them happy, not what keeps the oil and gas in the ground. I truly don't think the Earth is the number one priority to DC. - 3 months ago
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JanforGore
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Leen61
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JanforGore:
Good comment, Jan. And no, I don't think the Earth/environment is a top priority in DC.
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Leen61
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Leen61:
until the special-interest money is out of campaign-finance, until we arrive at sanity and have PUBLIC campaign-finance the service to the 1%er-masters will be the priority for all in DC.
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MSII
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MSII:
Exactly, MSII.
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treewolf39
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Kicking the can down the road is exactly what SSDI is doing to me. I can not believe I paid into this shit or believed anything that came out of their mouths since Reagen. I hope Obama turns out to be a real human but he did go to law school so the chances are slim.
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treewolf39:
Well, he was playing golf in Florida wirh Tiger Woods and some oil men the day of the largest climate rally in US history. To me he might as well have stood on the White House lawn and given us all the finger. Actions speak louder than words and we haven't seen any real action out of DC from anyone yet, just flighty speeches.Their "all of above" energy policy is in place so I can't help but doubt that the right thing is going to be done. They will kick this can until the oil companies have sucked every last drop out of this planet. That's why divestment, boycotts, planting trees and finding other ways to live will also have to be an imperative we out here take on ourselves.
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JanforGore:
And that was one cold and windy day in DC. Bravo to those who showed up!
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treewolf39
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JanforGore:
I woke to zero power in my neighborhood. It came on for a half an hour than off again. Just got it back 20 minutes ago. I will do fine but most of the others who live up this way are dependent on the new stuff which is interesting to me cause their parents were not. It looks like my skill set is very useful as the upper-ups destroy the decent parts left in this country and the world for that matter.My neighbor is the river from start to Finnish only 15 miles deep and perhaps 7 miles wide at the two farthest headwaters places. To the Ocean and a small town of perhaps 750 mostly elder with a bit of money. The power comes from the Columbia river at least 5 hours away driving fast.
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treewolf39
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treewolf39:
That was even more crap news. I just had the mail man deliver a certified eviction notice and I still do not even have the body to do that. Hell of a week! Our government is straight out of the shitter and dragging the whole country to the septic tank.
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Varex_Sythe
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Dear unholy lord, I hope not.
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Varex_Sythe:
Well we already see over 100,000 barrels of tarsands coming into the country daily. We are already pumping this dirty polluting goop into our cars and who knows what else. It has come down to the point where stopping the Keystone XL while something that must be done won't be where this has to end. The propnonents of this pipeline are also outspending those against it 35 to 1. Citizens United is going to kill our climate as well if we remain silent or let politics cloud our vision.
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JanforGore
