Art and Style | January 04, 2011 | 17 comments

Here’s one for all you Michael Vick apologists out there

source: http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/03/heres-one-for-all-you-michael-vick-apologists-out-there/

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Radical_Centrist
“He did his time and paid his debt to society,” you say. “He’s a changed man. Leave him alone!”

No, I don’t think so. His actions have had consequences, and just saying “Whoops, sorry” doesn’t fix things. Jacquielynn Floyd at the Dallas
Morning News takes a look at Mel, one of Vick’s pit bulls who got out of that hellhole alive:

A medium-sized black dog built like a small fireplug, Mel now lives in Dallas. He’s safe, comfortable and secure, but he’s terrified of strangers.

When faced with a new person, he shakes uncontrollably. If not restrained, he’ll cower and retreat to a corner, trying to back himself into invisibility. He fits the classic profile of a recovering torture victim…

Mel, who is now 4 years old, was lucky to survive his first year of life, which was spent at Vick’s Bad Newz Kennel, which bred and fought pit bulls for sport…

Boilerplate shorthand of the now-familiar story has reduced Vick’s crime to “dogfighting,” as if he had strayed over to the wrong side of the tracks for a little tough-guy recreation…

Well, deliberately breeding and forcing dogs to maim one another is ugly business. But Vick’s forgive-and-forget apologists seem to have forgotten how much uglier the story was than garden-variety backwoods dogfighting. They don’t bother to revisit the shockingly cruel violence he and his cronies inflicted on these captive animals.

Winning dogs were kept. The ones that lost or refused to fight were executed, often using inventively cruel methods. Court documents show Vick personally participated in killing at least a half-dozen dogs. Some were hanged, suspended from a crossbar with a nylon rope. Some were drowned, held upside down while their heads were forced into a bucket of water.

ONE WAS KILLED WHEN VICK AND ONE OF HIS PARTNERS SEIZED IT BY THE LEGS AND SLAMMED IT REPEATEDLY TO THE GROUND, BREAKING IT'S NECK AND BACK.

Other dogs at the “kennel” – an awfully nice name for what was really a charnel house for helpless animals – were reportedly electrocuted, shot or forced to breed until their bodies just gave out. And these guys did this for fun.

You don’t have to agree with Tucker that Vick deserves the death penalty. (I don’t, for one.) Go ahead and applaud the Eagles for giving him another chance. But please spare us your righteous indignation. Save it for somebody who deserves it. Michael Vick doesn’t.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/03/heres-one-for-all-you-michael-vick-apologists-...
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17 comments // Here’s one for all you Michael Vick apologists out there

  • KSirys
  • allstarz8
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      allstarz8  

    • ok, here is my opinion. i think that being a professional sports player is fun, easy, and extremely profitable. now, i dont personally enjoy playing sports, but i am assuming here that these guys like playing these sports or they wouldn't have pursued them so fervently. I also dont personally think sports are very easy, I actually think they are very hard, but I am still assuming this is something they enjoy doing, so it is not that hard to do. Everyone knows that playing sports is very profitable. So then, I think that being a professional sports player should be a privilege that can be taken away for any bad decisions! I think that those boys need to be on their toes everyday, because they would know that any bad decisions would mean a permanent ban from professional sports. No more big paycheck, no more shoe contracts, no more being a hero to kids. You mess up, your out for life, period.

    • 1 year ago
  • postlapsaria
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      postlapsaria  

    • as a few have already said.

      Yes what he did was evil, but it doesn't haven't anything to do his playing.

      sucking at life, making bad decisions, or simply being an evil asshole doesn't mean you can't do a job. if the bad act conflicts with the job, fine don't do it. but if it's not related doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to do it.

      Vick did his time. I'm chalking it up to him being an idiot. he thought it wasn't terrible, "who cares about these fucking dogs anyway? they're MY dogs, I ain't hurting ANYONE." is probably how he felt. they weren't beings, they were things to him. he seems to know better now, he has NO SLACK on anything like this again. if he gets around any animals and he's anything but overly affectionate and careful, then he's a bad bad man.

      but until being proven guilty of being a knowing horrible evil man, can't he be considered innocent? can't it just be like a dumbass teenager doing a stupid thing? it's not like his life forced him to grow up since high school, so who knows what kind of person he was before jail?

      the only caveat to what I've said, he lied about the whole thing until he was arrested, so he knew we was doing something wrong.

    • 1 year ago
  • Radical_Centrist
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      Radical_Centrist  
    • postlapsaria:

      What person in their "right" mind thinks seizing a dog by the legs and slammed it repeatedly to the ground, breaking its neck and back is not terrible? The "ONLY" way Vick could do this and not think it was terrible would be if he were a Sociopath. I of course believe that he indeed is a Sociopath.

    • 1 year ago
  • postlapsaria
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      postlapsaria  
    • Radical_Centrist:

      MILLIONS of people would think it's ok.

      most aren't Americans. culture bias matters. we love dogs, others don't. obviously Vick and his people didn't.

      we eat cows. people opposed to it would say we do sociopathic things to them. in India they worship the animal. so who's crazy? us? the vegans? the billion Hindus? the world doesn't have to be black and white all deriving from what you believe in. you hate what he did to dogs, fine, but put yourself in someone else's shoes, people who don't care about dogs, people who've lost REAL family to REAL criminals, Vick himself -- and maybe the story isn't so easy to decide.

      or is it cuz he killed dogs and damn what I say?

    • 1 year ago
  • Radical_Centrist
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      Radical_Centrist  
    • postlapsaria:

      I have traveled to several Asian country's where they eat Dogs. They do not normally TORTURE them first. I personally do not like Reptiles, but you would not catch me taking a monitor Lizard and SLAMMING it against the ground till I broke it's neck.

      PS: Vick is a REAL Criminal!

    • 1 year ago
  • postlapsaria
  • Radical_Centrist
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      Radical_Centrist  
    • postlapsaria:

      Do you personally know someone with the dearth of conscience to slam a LIVING thing to the ground repeatedly till its neck snapped? I mean if you do then you NEED to be very leery of them. "NORMAL" people are incapable of being that cruel to Animals regardless of whether they like then or not.

    • 1 year ago
  • Valorie
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      Valorie  

    • For all of the people who think Vick has paid his debt to society and has every right to play in the NFL with all of it's perks, go to You Tube and watch a few of the dog "fighting" videos. Please be sure to watch the one where 7 week old, healthy, care free puppies are torn apart. PLEASE. Also keep in mind that he often used muzzled dogs acquired from shelters as "bait dogs" to train his dogs to fight. Fight or die. Michael Vick is one sick puppy. The debt he paid to society is one of a famous, popular, extremely wealthy athlete which is really not one at all. If it had been you or me, guess what? I don't care if he is the most talented athlete who ever lived. Shame on those who have hired him, shame on Philadelphia, shame on the NFL and the people who support this team. AGAIN, PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEOS.

    • 1 year ago
  • lifestudentno83
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      lifestudentno83  

    • While I do not believe that what Vick has done should be forgotten, I do believe that he has served his time and should be allowed to play football. He has paid his debt to society as far as a first-time convicted animal abuser goes. This is not about the vicious way he has killed dogs, or the fact he was a star quarterback. This is about the fact that he has served his sentence, and therefore people should stop saying he should be allowed to play based on his animal abuse record.

      I do NOT believe that Vick should EVER be allowed to own an animal again. That is very cut and dry; that ruling was already handed down by a judge and should stand. Anyone who commit those actions against a defenseless animal obviously has no respect for its life, and should never be in possession of one.

    • 1 year ago
  • Radical_Centrist
  • lifestudentno83
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      lifestudentno83  
    • Radical_Centrist:

      As long as he's not coaching or playing junior football, then yes. I would also say he should never be alone around children, either.

      Vick is not a role-model, or a model citizen, but we need to give people a chance to redeem themselves. To err is human; to forgive, divine. However, we should not forget what he has done lest he commit the same atrocities.

      Football is not the place for moral standards. There are accused murderers, rapists, and abusers, as well as animal killers within the league. I wouldn't look towards the NFL for the paragons of morality in human existence; it is a game where the goal is to violently stop the other players by tackling them. Perhaps we should lower our expectations.

    • 1 year ago
  • tverdell
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  • Radical_Centrist
  • Robotic091
  • littlwarrior
  • Radical_Centrist
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      Radical_Centrist  

    • "One was killed when Vick and one of his partners seized it by the legs and slammed it repeatedly to the ground, breaking its neck and back."

      Anyone who believes Michael Vick is not a Sociopath "HAS" to be crazy themselves!

    • 1 year ago
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