Crime | January 07, 2009 | 76 comments

Palestinians align themselves with Hitler (again)

source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95HN1H02&show_article=1

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,477450,00.html
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To all those that think you can be anti-zionist but not anti-semitic, be aware that that is a distinction that a larger percentage of the arab yourth does not understand. You are literally getting into bed with rabid antisemites who attack Jews for just being Jewish. Jews who have nothing to do with Israel.

When you support the Palestinians to the exclusion of Israel you are supporting these violent racist forces. I'm sure it's not your intent, but it's a fact that this is what is happening. Jews are being attacked because arab youths are not distguishing Israeli soldiers from europeans who happen to be Jewish.

It would be absurd and immoral for me to attack random muslims in america because hamas is firing rockets into israel. The thought wouldn't even occur to me. But to the arabs, apparently it makes sense to attack random Jews. Sad and immoral.

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PARIS (AP) - Signs are mounting that the conflict in Gaza is starting to spill over into violence in Europe's towns and cities, with assaults against Jews and arson attacks on Jewish congregations in France, Sweden and Britain.

Assailants rammed a burning car into the gates of a synagogue in Toulouse, in southwest France, on Monday night. Unlighted gasoline bombs were also found in a car nearby and in the synagogue's yard.

A Jewish congregation in Helsingborg, in southern Sweden, also was attacked Monday night by someone who "broke a window and threw in something that was burning," said police spokesman Leif Nilsson. Neighbors alerted rescue services before the fire took hold.

Someone also started a blaze outside the premises last week. And on Sunday slogans including "murderers ... You broke the cease-fire" and "don't subject Palestine to ethnic cleansing" were daubed on Israel's embassy in Stockholm.

In Denmark, a 27-year-old Dane born in Lebanon of Palestinian parents is alleged to have injured two young Israelis last week, opening fire with a handgun in a shooting that police suspect could be linked to the Gaza crisis.

France has Western Europe's largest Jewish and Muslim communities and a history of anti-Semitic violence flaring when tensions in the Middle East are high. In 2002, some 2,300 Jews left France for Israel because they felt unsafe.


In the Danish shooting, one Israeli man was shot in the arm and another in the leg as they were selling hair care products in a shopping mall. Eli Ruvio, who owns the company that operated the stands, said his employees have been harassed by Muslim youths since they set up three kiosks in the shopping center in August.

"They kept cursing and shouting at us," Ruvio told The Associated Press. He added that the Muslim youths also threw mud and firecrackers at the employees and spat at them.

Ruvio recalled an episode Dec. 27 when some of the youths shouted "slaughter all the Jews."
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76 comments // Palestinians align themselves with Hitler (again)

  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  

    • @ jawnybnsc

      Well put. I sent a message to the Current Online Team with a complaint about the standards and about datamined's banning.

      I also asked them to reconsider datamined's banning. I certainly felt it was unfair considering what had been said by other users who I will not mention by name...

    • 3 years ago
  • islandtrip
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      islandtrip  

    • What about the hundreds of thousands of people killed in the name of God over that last few thousand years so the Israelite Nation could even come into conception. We need to look at history and not just the last hundred years. The freakin picture needs to be took in account when considering how the conflict became religious in the first place. Why are people so scared of historical fact.

    • 3 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • islandtrip:

      Those hundreds of thousands can never compare to the MILLIONS of Jews that have been killed throughout history since the time of Rome...

      All I know is that the Jews deserve their own homeland.

    • 3 years ago
  • jawnybnsc
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      jawnybnsc  

    • Will the coward who banned datamined please answer her questions about the double standard that is so in evidence at current? I'd like to know why any poster who made slurs against Jews, who seized on certain surnames, who engaged in personal attacks, who seeks to intimidate and shout down opposition, who freely posts Hamas propaganda is allowed to carry on unabated. If, as you say, certain posters have been warned, why do they remain unnamed while datamined is singled out? Who has been warned? I'd love the opportunity to review the posts of those members to determine if their actions merit sanction and to help the moderators make sure that current's policies are enforced.

    • 3 years ago
  • plusaf
  • jawnybnsc
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      jawnybnsc  
    • plusaf:

      Actually, Jews were immigrating to the part of the protectorate west of the Jordan River long before partition. It's really not accurate to say that the Jewish State was decreed 60 years ago and then the Jews began to build the vibrant state you see today. As you say, the Jews built a state on land that Arabs had left fallow . . . but this didn't happen overnight starting 60 years ago.

    • 3 years ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • plusaf:

      In addition to jawnybnsc's comment, many of those Palestinians also SOLD their land to many of those early settlers.

      Many left the region at the behest of the Arab states hostile to Israel in the region. It is only after the creation of the 1948 Israeli state that violence on the scale of a war began.

    • 3 years ago
  • kuffar
  • Vierotchka
  • MoonLoon
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      MoonLoon  

    • The Nazi's used phrases from the Koran to create satirical cartoons prior to WW2 to dehumanize Jews and prepare German citizens to accept the atrocities that were to come. That's a fact!

      After the mass executions Israel swore never again to be a victim to murder, attacks, torture, or kidnapping. That's a fact!

      Egypt started the 6 days war that resulted in the loss of territory to Israel. That's a fact!

      The Swiss accepted and have hidden since WW2, looted Jewish/European assets. That's a fact!

      The Swiss still facilitate global money laundering by criminals, dictators, and other generator's of unearned assets. That's a fact!

    • 3 years ago
  • clownpuncher
  • Vierotchka
  • clownpuncher
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      clownpuncher  

    • Bleeding hearts of the world unite. Some of you all seem so very ridiculous throwing your support behind the Hamas. Those people are TERRORISTS, from the time they start school they are educated to HATE everyone else.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • kuffar
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • kuffar:

      Those are purposely false translations stemming from extreme righ-twing "Christian" websites. On the other hand, the Old Testament is full of far, far worse hatred and incitement to murder and rape and genocide.

    • 3 years ago
  • kuffar
  • Vierotchka
  • Mr_Costello
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      Mr_Costello  

    • It is easy to see that this conflict has passionate opinions on both sides. It is key to understand that this is a conflict between two very religious nations and not a conflict between religious groups.

      Please consider this and the community standards when posting.

      http://current.com/s/community_standards.htm

      Current encourages debate and we want to hear both sides of the story in a reasoned manner. We are all intelligent people lets try and raise the conversation to new levels through information.

      As always if you need to flag a comment you think is breaking our community standards then you can do so. Alternatively drop myself, or one of the community team a message, we are here to help.

    • 3 years ago
  • datamined
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      datamined  
    • Mr_Costello:

      Vierotchka posted 10 videos here in a row.
      that's spam. she's trying to dominate a conversation by throwing in 10 unrelated videos in the middle of a topic. the topic is about antisemitism in europe and she posts video of a fringe jewish group that makes up a few thousand people regarding the state of israel.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • FarmJohn
  • Vierotchka
  • JRM
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  

    • It is amazing how hostile the community at Current has grown while the conflict rages...

      it is as if by osmosis the hatred and bitterness is shared...

      powerful, but sad and creepy....

    • 3 years ago
  • priapproved
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      priapproved  
    • unimatrix0:

      It's not a matter of HATING. It's a matter of ANGER. Who in their right mind can NOT be mad at hundreds of innocent Palestinian civilians being slaughtered ? I'm mad there are actually people on current actually DEFENDING the actions of Israel. As a lurker in current, I've never bothered commenting. But seeing all these ignorant comments actually DEFENDING Israel's human rights violations brought me up to try and shed light for those who are ignorant about this conflict. I don't hate the ignorance, I'm just mad that that is how it is.

    • 3 years ago
  • kewldd
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      kewldd  
    • unimatrix0:

      Hundreds? Maybe 200...and compared with the 500-600 dead terrorists...I would say the IDF has been pretty accurate..whereas the Hamas terrorists specifically target civilians!

    • 3 years ago
  • timcat_blues
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      timcat_blues  
    • unimatrix0:

      Zero,

      Astute as always. Though we are opposites on many issues more and more I feel we would be friends in the real world. Fear not, I am happy to know you here.

      Given the short period that this situation has been active, plus the obvious limited audience, the polarization and intensity of opinion brings into marked contrast the intractable and disparate differences inherent in the complexities of this conflict.

      If we, who have little or nothing at stake in the outcome, cannot find any common ground for agreement. Imagine the intellectually blinding intensity to those who are involved.

      Our opinions bleed us dry and leave us speechless in the desert of mortality. I saw a picture today, me, myself, of a four year-old child being laid in the earth. Her face so innocent. Her hair so soft looking. A drop of blood from her nose so seemingly out of place. A woman in her thirties, children of her own to look forward to and to enjoy. Grandchildren, Great-Grandchildren, they are all gone.

      It doesn't matter which side of my opinion either of these lost universes lie. "To save one person is to save the entire world." It doesn't matter which religion lays claims to that saying, it is True. Our world is less for the loss of both of these children of humanity, regardless of their religion, politics, or nation.

      There are injustices on both sides of this fight. No one is innocent, Hamas and Israel both have the blood of innocents on their hands. The only virtue to come from this, is which one will be the first to lay down their arms.

      Peace, Shalam, Shalom, Zero

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • timcat_blues
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      timcat_blues  
    • Vierotchka:

      Same group.

      If you want I can show you a christian group that believes that every American Soldier who died in Iraq was killed by G-D to show how angry He is for us not hating Homosexuals.

      Or, I can show you a Church body of Catholics made up entirely of Gays.

      Again,

      FAIL.

      Give me some real news, not home vidioes from a well known fringe group.

      Unless,......you are a member of said fringe group? Ah..now I understand!

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • datamined
  • Vierotchka
  • priapproved
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      priapproved  
    • Vierotchka:

      Lol Viero, I applaud you for making a stand against these pro-Israel trolls. You do realize that your words are going to go unheard. Despite RABBIS saying that Israel is committing crimes against humanity, these trolls aren't going to listen. They're stuck listening to Fox news. Arguing with them is like arguing with a rock.

    • 3 years ago
  • kewldd
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      kewldd  
    • Vierotchka:

      V,

      So you are Jewish then? It's so sad when someone is so deluded that they will stand next to those who would see their own brethren killed in cold blood. What would your relatives, who should all rest in peace, think of what you are doing?

      In response to the video of these so called "rabbis," they are part of a group called the Neturei Karta, a fringe movement that is very small in number and in no way represents religious Judaism. Even the few ultra religious groups who are against zionism because it goes against the belief that Jews should only return to Israel when the messiah comes have condemned the Neturei Karta fro standing by those who wish to murder Jews. In fact, they have been given "cherem" which is pretty much the same thing as ex-communication in catholicism.

    • 3 years ago
  • timcat_blues
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      timcat_blues  
    • Vierotchka:

      That guy is Not Orthodox. He is Hasidic Ultra-Orthodox. They did not approve of the Israeli State in 1948 because they believed only G-D could restore them to the land. They rejected the U.N. and have even gone so far as to appear at the Iranian conference to disprove the Holocaust.

      Let me add that not all Hasidim believe as this small sub-group do.

    • 3 years ago
  • timcat_blues
  • datamined
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      datamined  

    • @Vera: "I never stick-up for thieves, murderers, and bullies"

      Great. Now, Vera, let's hear an UNQUALIFIED, UNAMBIGUOUS DENOUNCEMENT of Hama firing rockets at Israeli civilians.

      If you fail, then you'd be acting like just another swiss antisemite.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • datamined:

      Why should I? They are simply defending themselves - that is not a crime, especially that they have only killed some twelve Israelis that way since 2001. I am neither Swiss nor anti-Semitic, and the overwhelming majority of the Swiss people are not anti-Semitic, for your edification.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • datamined
  • priapproved
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      priapproved  
    • datamined:

      Rofl Viero, I feel so compelled to defend you because datamined actually has the nerve to defend the Israeli army when they are committing genocide against Palestinians.

      @datamined: The question is, are you going to denounce the Israel army for killing hundreds of civilians or are you going to keep calling anybody non-Israeli Hitler? On current, I've never actually seen you respond to a legitimate question, EVER. You should make history and respond.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • jawnybnsc
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      jawnybnsc  
    • datamined:

      Well at least we know to take as hypocritical and of that "both sides are wrong" nonsense from Vierotchka. She is clearly taken the side of Hamas in this confrontation. That is to say, she has clearly taken the side of an organization dedicated to the annihilation of the Jewish People and the Jewish State. Thanks for making things clear.

    • 3 years ago
  • GANDHITRON
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      GANDHITRON  
    • datamined:

      I think that both Israel and Hamas have committed war crimes.
      I think that both should cease the violence.
      I also think it is more important that Israel stop simply because of the completely improportionate amount of civilian deaths they have caused.

      Regardless of Hamas using human shields or not, the truth is that Israel is destroying families, homes, and the lives of men, women and children. They need to listen to the rest of the world. If they did, maybe they would gain more sympathy, more legitimacy. But right now, they are the bullies, the aggressors and the mass murderers.

      The question of Israel's legality as a state can and should be settled by logic and law, not the killing of innocents.

      I hope you can find the time to think more about this and discuss it civilly with others, even if you feel they are wrong.

    • 3 years ago
  • Katanajon
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      Katanajon  

    • So , V, besides defending they're country what else do they do? I know the post ww2 guys were pretty mean, but what lately? Do you know stuff that you aren't teaching us? I am curious why you are so down on them, when you stick up for almost every other people.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • datamined
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      datamined  
    • Katanajon:

      i know several jewish families in switzerland.
      to this day it is very antisemitic, at least compared to other places. the jewish kids would regularly get beaten up in the street for being jewish. vera has lived in switzerland her whole life. it's had an obvious effect, i fear.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Katanajon:

      So do I, including some of my relatives. Switzerland is not anti-Semitic, though some Swiss are - but then, anti-Semitic people are all over the world. I haven't lived my whole life in Switzerland either, I've lived in many countries.

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
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      arcticspirit  

    • Vierotchka thank you for stating that you are an anti-Zionist, so that we may understand your agenda here. And yeah, you have one.
      I don't know what happened to the original posts where stated your political affinity.

      Now at least we understand why you have such odd views compared to what America holds dear.

      Anti-Zionism has become the most dangerous and effective form of anti-Semitism in our time, through its systematic delegitimization, defamation, and demonization of Israel. Although not a priori anti-Semitic, the calls to dismantle the Jewish state, whether they come from Muslims, the Left, or the radical Right, increasingly rely on an anti-Semitic stereotypization of classic themes, such as the manipulative "Jewish lobby," the Jewish/Zionist "world conspiracy," and Jewish/Israeli "warmongers." [6]

    • 3 years ago
  • Katanajon
  • Vierotchka
  • arcticspirit
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
  • GANDHITRON
  • timcat_blues
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      timcat_blues  
    • arcticspirit:

      "Kuffar, I've read more books than you ever will have read in your lifetime"

      LOL, documentation please! Ha ha, and so adynaton rears it's ugly head. As such, every comment must now be reviewed. I don't have the time so I will just disregard until you rectify your error.

    • 3 years ago
  • datamined
    • datamined  
    • This comment was removed as a violation of community guidelines.
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • datamined:

      No connection to the Swiss at all, and daughter of WWII heroes who beat Hitler, and who worked at the Nuremberg Trials, for your undeserved edification.

      I take comfort in the fact that you won't live half as long as I will.

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • arcticspirit:

      Nope, I am not anti-Semitic, most of the Jews in Israel aren't Semites at all. I am anti-Zionist and anti the evil Zionist agenda. On the other hand, Palestinians are pure Semites, in case you didn't know.

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
  • mekbd
    • mekbd  
    • This comment was removed as a violation of community guidelines.
  • Vierotchka
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  

    • "To all those that think you can be anti-zionist but not anti-semitic, be aware that that is a distinction that a larger percentage of the arab yourth does not understand. You are literally getting into bed with rabid antisemites who attack Jews for just being Jewish. Jews who have nothing to do with Israel."

      Israel has only itself to blame for that. As you made your bed of thorns, so shall you sleep in it.

    • 3 years ago
  • datamined
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      datamined  
    • Vierotchka:

      Vera -- the article was about random jews in europe being attacked. so far your absurd response has been to say:

      1) it's israel's fault that jews are attacked in european cities. (irrationally. it's the arabs fault who attack the jews in europe)

      2) israel wanted jews to be attacked. (no proof. absurd)

      3) the jews are faking the attacks. (you cite only other fakes from years ago offering no proof. no evidence at all)

      4) oh, and i'm not antisemitic (non-obvious conclusion)

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  

    • Datamined, these reports about violence against Jews in Europe are exactly what the Zionists planned - the Zionists deliberately foment anti-Semitism, it is a major part of their agenda. They even go as far as pretending to have been victims of hate crimes which turned out to be false and self-inflicted.

    • 3 years ago
  • datamined
  • Vierotchka
  • datamined
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      datamined  
    • Vierotchka:

      Vera -- I said "please cite sources that any of the mentioned hate crimes were fabricated."

      you went on to find articles about other incidents unrelated and years ago.

      again, I ask please cite sources that any of THE MENTIONED hate crimes were fabricated.

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Vierotchka:

      datamined, I did exactly that. You are so disingenuous... what "mentioned" crimes are you referring to, anyway?

      Arcticspirit, fake and self-inflicted anti-Semitic crimes are frequent.

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
  • GANDHITRON
  • timcat_blues
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      timcat_blues  
    • Vierotchka:

      I'm sorry, I checked the referenced sites and all was there was blog sites. I don't believe crap just because someone had the intelligence to type it up. Show me the original articles or admit you don't know.

      Oh, and I know the story of the jewish neo-nazi that desecrated a Temple because he hated being a Jew. And you-tube conspiracies are a dime a gross. So one or two wack jobs do not a conspiracy make.

      Please feel the urgency to put up or...well...find someone who will be more easily fooled and won't follow you around to point out the obvious.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  

    • Well, the Jews have done little but focus on a negative thing that has happened to them over sixty years ago - they use it as a kind of blackmail and revel in victimhood - and have used it for revenge in many different ways. They are not a lot tougher, not really smarter, and yes, richer because they get six billion dollars of American taxpayers' money every year. Palestinians didn't give up, they still haven't given up, they'll never give up. The Israelis are too attached to that piece of land they have stolen, it is ruining their lives and the lives of their children. What they need is some humanity, less self-pity, and some honesty, they need to GROW UP.

    • 3 years ago
  • datamined
  • Katanajon
  • Vierotchka
  • datamined
  • Angel4truth
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      Angel4truth  
    • Vierotchka:

      Thoughts of hate if I ever heard of such. Was the holocaust not enough killing of Jewish people for you? Did Hitler not do enough of a good job slaughtering them? Apparently not.
      Watch the video, it isn't the typical holocaust video... Maybe you will understand why people think you are heartless and want the Jewish people that were unwelcome across the middle east to have their home.

      "Well, the Jews have done little but focus on a negative thing that has happened to them over sixty years ago - they use it as a kind of blackmail and revel in victimhood - and have used it for revenge in many different ways."

    • 3 years ago
  • arcticspirit
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Vierotchka:

      Angel4"truth", I lost a great many family members in the Shoah, so you're in no position to lecture me on the subjec.

      Arcticspirit, anti-Zionism is not at all the same thing as anti-Semitism. Zionism is evil and abhorrent. If there was no Zionism, there would long have been peace in the world.

    • 3 years ago
  • Katanajon
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      Katanajon  

    • Well, the problem is the Jews are a lot tougher, richer, smarter, the whole boat. When someone, anyone, chooses to focus on a negative thing that has happened to them. And,... basically makes revenge their only focus, then, their life go's in the toilet. When Israel ended up with the land, Palestinians GAVE UP, 60 years of whining later here they are. The Palestinians are too attached to that piece of land, it is ruining their lives and the lives of their children. What they need is some ambition, less self pity, and a plan for their kids that doesn't have explosives in it. They need to GROW UP.

    • 3 years ago
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