High School English: A Waste of Time?
source: http://www.newser.com/story/118354/high-school-english-a-waste-of-time.html
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That class, of course, was where Brooks herself "learned to read literature, to write about it and talk about it and recite it and love it." But nowadays such a course seems almost like "a profound waste of time." Brooks' students tell her about presentations, fancy group projects, and skits they did in high school, but much of the writing they do—as confirmed by one English department chairman—is "informal," partially because teachers are more concerned with keeping students engaged than educating them on comma usage. Understandable, writes Brooks, but it leads to "migraine-inducing, quasi-incomprehensible prose." Do kids even need to know how to write? As a fellow professor observes, "We've all gotten emails or cover letters where we've judged people based on the writing." Teaching these essential skills may not be fun, writes Brooks, but "sometimes we do things not because they're fun but because they're important."
* * * I began my college education 18 years ago at the age of 50. During my first year English class the instructor was having students taking turns too read a portion of some written material. I was shocked upon hearing the students, recent high school graduates, one after another struggle with the simplest sentence structures and unable to pronounce many two and three syllable words. The English instructor looked neither surprised nor concerned. It was obvious he had become used too this slaughtering of the English language by his first year students.
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DavidYates
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I've just about given up expecting coherent journalism. The rule seems to be: if spellchecker says its a word, it's good enough. I'm old enough to remember when there were editors who were actually paid to make sure the copy was correct. If you think the public doesn't know the difference, why bother.
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Leen61
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Sadly this doesn't surprise me. The youth of today talk in text language. They Twitter. When has this generation really been called upon to really communicate with the English language? Just as culture is on the decline, so is the English language. This is why poetry, intelligent prose and song writing are just about things in the past.
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TasteHi
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I think linguistics is (a lot more) useful than literature, let writers worry about proper writing etiquette. Now, CRUMBLE BEFORE MY BAD WRITING SKILLZ...
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TasteHi
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TasteHi:
I speak of literature as an expression of life through imagination and intellectual application. Knowing the mechanics of prose is what makes conveyance of idea possible and pleasant. I read almost entirely classical literature because these works have been time tested and proven. The masters took a lot of freedom with their writing methods but it is because they are masters that they know how to manipulate the rules and mechanics of language to benefit their works. The bottom line is they write damn good stories.
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wayseeker:
agreed but writing is an art form, not a form of guaranteeing that there will be food on the table...it should be an elective not a requirement.
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TasteHi
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TasteHi:
Yes, and being able to write so that the reader can comprehend what you are saying is an important part of the art. If an artist hasn't learned how to mix the paint to get the color they wish they can't communicate their idea on canvas. There's a saying in art that applies to literature as well. One earns the right to break the rules only after they have learned the rules. To me as an artist it's all about expression and not monetary value which is apparent by my lack of monetary value. :)
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wayseeker:
Keep at it, even if art is under appreciated a society without a means of intellectual stimulation and entertainment is no society at all. Unfortunately the necessity of such things is only apparent when one depends on a happy society.
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TasteHi
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wayseeker
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Soon computers will be doing all communication for people. Computer will talk to computer with very little input from humans. How this will affect humanities emotional sensibilities and intellectual reflection is a scary thought to me so I don't plan to engage in it. I have so far accumulated over 300 ebooks of high quality literature to occupy me through my final seasons. Kind of like storing canned food and water in my cellar.
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wayseeker:
ah the Star Trek super-verse, can't wait
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eternal_springs
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This is one of my pet peeves. I cringe when I read many news articles, purportedly by someone who majored in journalism. I thought command of the language was part and parcel of journalism.
Unfortunately it appears to be a sign of the times in which we live.
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eternal_springs:
Yup... I always asked my girlfriend of the day Not to write me.... It always drove me crazy to catch all the typos...
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The computer is the cause of a lot of illiteracy. Knowing how to spell is no longer necessity because of Spell Check. Also for the sake of brevity pronunciation and logical sentence structure has been abandoned. I've always appreciated the beauty in the English language and the color it brings to the imagination. It is a great loss if through a lack of skill one cannot read the wonderful works of authors like Dickens and Hawthorne. The present generation is suffering this great loss. It is both sad and pathetic.
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wayseeker:
I am going with Pathetic...
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
Often times the employer is just as ignorant as the person applying for work....
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ThatCrazyLibertarian:
The same with "Better than or Better then" My employer is one of them that we speak of... =(
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KB723
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Stupidity means you won't ever know what's really going on...
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