Homeless given the greenlight to VOTE
source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-28-homeless-voters_N.htm
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U.S. District Judge Edmund Sargus also ruled that provisional ballots can't be invalidated because of poll worker errors.
Monday's ruling resolved the final two pieces of a settlement between the Northeast Ohio Coalition for the Homeless and Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner.
The coalition agreed to drop a constitutional challenge to Ohio's voter identification law until after the Nov. 4 election. In return, Brunner and the coalition agreed on procedures to verify provisional ballots across all Ohio counties.
The coalition was concerned that unequal treatment of provisional ballots would disenfranchise some voters.
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brightdivine
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Just Awesome!!
The homeless are part of communities across the USA whether we acknowledge them or not.
A sense of pride would boost anyones self worth.
- 1 year ago
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brightdivine
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disgusted_again
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What I find suspicious is why Ohio waited until Now to change a rule on this. If it was a problem , why was it not addressed until now? Are the judges now wise to these old manuevers? Let them vote!
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disgusted_again
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greenfoxone [removed]
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thedismembermentplan
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what the crap, I posted this story yesterday.
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thedismembermentplan
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futurehempfarmer
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Now that we have so many new homeless people of course they have to let them vote. Thanks for that G.W.
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futurehempfarmer
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conscienceobserver
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I find it hard to buy into that this is actually a good idea. I've known enough homeless individuals...even helped a few get back into the working world by paying them to be productive on construction sites. These people have chosen to go off the radar and not be held accountable for anything that a standard tax-payer like everyone who has left a comment on this site has no escape from without choosing to do the same as they have. Why should they be given the opportunity to dedicate the funds that they don't contribute to? I realize that the "homeless" definition has become rather stretched due to the foreclosure crisis, but there still should be a significant amount of requirements to be allowed to cast a ballot in an election already riddled with controversies around voter fraud. I believe that everyone should get be a part of the system, but at any point in time, those who choose to not subject themselves to the daily grind in the traditional sense could at least validate their contribution by volunteering for public service. This seems like something that could easily become a mistake and a loophole.
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conscienceobserver
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darkhorsejim
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After the foreclosure fiasco, this is a very timely decision, because over 1 million hard working families can't believe they now fall into this category thanks to the complete financial mismanagement of the current administration.
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darkhorsejim
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2muchinfo
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Everyone has the right to vote, if he or she chooses to.
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2muchinfo
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lifestudentno83
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I'm just hoping McCain doesn't attempt to sway the homeless by offering them free beer to vote for him.
Okay, that was a horrible joke.
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lifestudentno83
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kennymotown
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If you are an American citizen 18 years or older you have the right too vote, I can not believe people who are still stuck in the 18th century and think only the rich land owners have this right.
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kennymotown
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advertisehere
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oh, so there was a yellow light at one point?
owning stuff isnt a prerequisite to vote... - 1 year ago
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carre
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just because someone is homeless doesn't mean that they haven't once had a life. They were exposed to the world, the society and those that voted with them. A person can vote because they are a taxpayer, well what if the person who had lost all the things they cherised and held their name to the bill no longer did? does that mean that they no longer want to have a voice? of course not, they should have a voice. It isn't true that all the homeless have had the same background story but those who wish to be heard should be heard.
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carre
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damnneargenius
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If they are already being denied the materialistic comfort of shelter amongst other things, at least the right to vote might make them feel a little bit less disenfranchised as citizens.
The course of political policies ultimately does affect the economy and job loss etc. that these people are ultimately suffering from, so the least they can be given is the right to vote for whomever they believe might improve their circumstance just like the rest of us wage slave types.
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oracleruby
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I say, more power to them. My gf works at a Homesless Shelter so when Obama and MCCain were having their debates I was wondering where they stood on poverty. Sad times. Go Ohio!
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oracleruby
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DaveTheInventor
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This should offset things quite a bit, This will interesting to here what they have to say too.
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sueathome
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For the disheartened I can understand why they would vacillate as to vote or not to vote. Why partake in an activity that in the past has done nothing to change their day to day life. They may not realize the power of that vote especially in this election.
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sueathome
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5thElement
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Homeless people's lives are just as important as everyone elses. There is no reason why they shouldn't have a voice just because they're are homeless. They are still American! This makes me happy. One day everyone will have peace.
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5thElement
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islek
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We're all supposed to be "created equal," but our history and present days clearly show that we are not.
At least this is one step closer to that idea.
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islek
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Blazesboy
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What I think is incredible is that voting rights are different state-by-state. Ex-cons can vote in some states but not others? Homeless can vote in some states but not others? It doesn't make any sense that there is no federal law mandating voting rights for everyone. What is up with that?
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Blazesboy
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lifestudentno83
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Blazesboy:
I didn't even know there were states that allowed ex-cons to vote.
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HolyCity2012
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There remains something deeply touching about the fact that "Harry the Homeless Person" still identifies himself as a citizen, remains willing to take civic action, and refuses to surrender the one thing he has left--his vote.
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
Be It Ever So Humble
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HolyCity2012
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iloveyou
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This is a step in the right direction. EVERY adult should have the right to vote. Residency issues do not dictate a persons political voice.
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iloveyou
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Neghie
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I imagine being homeless would make it difficult to keep abreast of the issues and what candidate stands for what. My decision doesn't rest on what the candidates will do "for me". If I did, I'd probably be homeless.
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Neghie
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jarratt
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i agree with janforgore. all the candidates seem to talk about is the middle class - where is the call to action and support for the lower class/homeless populations in this country - now in the last hour when they need them they give them something - I work at a social service agencyf or homeless people where they are able to use our address to receive their ballots, so I do feel that giving homeless people access to voting is important, but there is so much else that is necessary that isn't talked about.
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jarratt
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nodlew20
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i agree with heatherpierce what the fuck does a residence have to do with your right to have a say and vote.
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nodlew20
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phillyphil
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when i was registering people to vote in my town there were lots of homeless people who wanted to sign up. many of them were homeless by choice and quite well informed. they were not allowed to vote tho unless they had a non-PO box address in which to receive mail. it sucked telling them that they could not excercise their right to vote.
this news is awesome and i wish there was a measure like this in colorado.... now i am gonna take jans advice and go do something about it
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phillyphil
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heatherpierce
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i can't believe whether or not you have a dwelling is even considered in whether or not you can vote.
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heatherpierce
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isnamthere
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heatherpierce:
Originally in the US only propertied landowners were permitted to vote. The theory was that they had more at stake in the running of the nation than those who were property-less. I do not agree with this notion and I believe that every citizen has a stake in this country, homeless as well as those with homes. But that was the rationale for some people anyway.
I also feel that those who have been incarcerated, after serving their time, should also have the vote. Just because someone makes a mistake in their life doesn't mean they do not have a stake in the way this country is run.
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isnamthere
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kennyJ
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As far as I can tell, the FREE nation that our soldier's are fighting to protect in Iraq is NOT free UNLESS there's a RIGHT for ALL American's to vote? WTF!
If you have a problem with AMERICAN citizens voting that is UN-AMERICA as it gets! But at least the lack of empathy is telling...
No one should be made to vote however- That's NOT freedom!
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kennyJ
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Swiyyah
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I think that is great. Everyone who can vote should vote. I agree with tori, you should be automatically registered at 18.
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Tori
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I think the more people empowered to vote, the better. I think the fact that you have to register to vote rather than being automatically registered the day you turn 18 is a shame.
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Tori
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Tori:
Some people don't want to be forced to registrar.
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Blazesboy
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Tori:
But automatic registration would not "force" anyone to register, right? It would just happen without those folks having to do anything.
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Blazesboy
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smice
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Well, they do seem to want change.
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smice
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smice:
yes - that too. ♥
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wiredbirds
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smice:
ha ha ha ha ha, good one
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isnamthere
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nodlew20
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this is a positive step. good looks ohio
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esk
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I feel thatthis case was very interesting simply because voting is a right we all deserve. Now Janfor Gore is correct when she states that food and shelter are also rights we all deserve however let this court case remind you of what is important. We need a change..and not just in our government but in our society as a whole.
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esk
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wiredbirds
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wiredbirds:
Ah, the usual excuse... 9/11. It didn't stop me from caring and giving. Bush didn't stop me from caring either.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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Yes, vote because it is important to do so, and that is sincere... but then you will go back to the bench that no one running cares you live on unless it is an election year. It seems surreal to me that people would care more that these people now vote than to find them a home or care if they will even have a meal. How many stories about the homeless or poverty have actually made it to TV here BTW? And this is the real America? Where people must live this way to begin with? I don't think so.The real America would see them in homes with jobs instead of now being used as political props for Obama. That is why you now think this is the real America... because no homeless person would ever vote Republican. Right?
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JanforGore
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wiredbirds
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JanforGore:
What has #43, in his folly of 8 ruthlessly fucked up years, done to progress the homeless situation.. .?
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wiredbirds
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JanforGore
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JanforGore:
Bush has DONE SHIT but this post isn't about him. What have YOU done?
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wiredbirds
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JanforGore:
I posted a story that relays the POSITIVEness of the homeless getting the right to VOTE.
Small steps, you moron. Small steps.
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wiredbirds
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JanforGore:
and in another step to completely call you out on being ill-informed - here is a link to more than 1500 clips on Current™, re: HOMELESS:
http://current.com/search/search.do?indexName=en_us&renderer=jsp&q=homel...
get off your ass and make some REAL noise.
although the bit I clipped is not about #43 - it is about CHANGE.
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wiredbirds
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JanforGore:
I'm beginning to think that Jan is in the same category as jjammer. They both seem to want only to piss everyone off and no one's opinion is ever good enough for them. Poor unhappy sods.
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isnamthere
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JanforGore:
Small steps? What's the next step? Actually getting off line and putting your money where your mouth is?Typical disrespectful namecalling response. I am no moron and at least my posts prove it. All yours prove is that you are nothing but a political mouthpiece for Obama. BTW, what is his plan to address POVERTY? I don't ever hear him talking about it. Matter of fact, none of them do.
And in case your small mind misconstued my last sentence in my original response...I didn't type it to support Republicans, I typed it to illustrate the political bias here. If you had a crystal ball and knew that people who were homeless were going to vote for McCain for whatever reason, would you even have posted this? Do YOU care about the poor and homeless? You don't want every vote to count.You just want people to vote your way.
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JanforGore
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wiredbirds
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JanforGore:
Is this an election year?
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wiredbirds
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JanforGore
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JanforGore:
Thanks for the link. See, you did something else. Good for you.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore:
i met lots of homeless people when i was registering citizens to vote. they felt very discouraged by the fact that they couldnt vote. and bytheway, they held a large range of political views....
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phillyphil
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PoisonTheMonkey
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Victory!
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PoisonTheMonkey
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jennyschu
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I have a few friends who are still on the fence with their precious Ohio vote. After all of our talks and the links I've sent I'm optimistic that their choice will be Barack Obama. EVERY VOTE COUNTS IN OHIO.
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jennyschu
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jennyschu:
I have it easy: I don't make friends!
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HolyCity2012
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wiredbirds
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One people. One Vote!
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wiredbirds
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Tori
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Wow, that's exciting.
Go vote, people. It's a privilege and an honor that we have this right, so use it!
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Tori