Palin, Biden face off in VP debate
source: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/02/vice.presidential.debate/index.html
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Eat_Disco
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PirateSauce:
Ya lets listen to the corporate funded studies!
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Eat_Disco
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McCainiac
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If you listen to his bull, Obama is behind every good idea in the Senate in the last couple years. Joe is a super scientist that absolutely knows the cause of climate warming. He's a friggin genious. It probably has nothing to do with our planet's path around the sun because it probably is exactly the same every year. WHERE THE HELL DID PAST WARMING AND COOLING COME FROM? DINOSAUR FARTS. YOU BALD HEADED IDIOT!
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McCainiac
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isabella98
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McCainiac:
Thank you! A voice of reason!
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isabella98
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anglcazn
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McCainiac:
Are you kidding me? Do you have any knowledge of physics or astronomy? Apparently, from what you said, you don't.
And also, making multiple accounts to create a fake audience doesn't make you look right.
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anglcazn
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kirru
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McCainiac:
u r a super idiot...lol...u don't know how climate change happens..go get some knowledge thru science then talk abt it..moron!!
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kirru
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HolyCity2012
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Biden was an animal at the primary debates.
Bring it Joe bring the pain! - 3 years ago
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
he rocks
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HolyCity2012
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ObAmababy
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she needs to shut up and tell the truth
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ObAmababy
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ILiveonaClock
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Biden is definitely kicking ass, he has a solid rebuttal foro everything.
Palin is failing. - 3 years ago
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ILiveonaClock
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isabella98
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ILiveonaClock:
Are you living in lalaland? Biden lied several times and repeated a lot of the same Obama crap that is not true. Not very impressive if you know your facts!
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isabella98
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Eat_Disco
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ILiveonaClock:
biden actually did a fact check and his statements are accurate. (coming from someone who actually knows their facts) if you cant dig through the layer of bull shit that both parties lay down maybe you would come to your conclusion... And Evil bizarro clinton goes down!
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Eat_Disco
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kewal91
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ILiveonaClock:
which is why Biden didnt specify that McCains plain ALso gave tax breaks the same middle class that Obama middle class proclaimed to be.. (although much less). and Palin didnt specify that while Obama did vote for budgetary bills on the middle class, they didnt necessarily raise taxes
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kewal91
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McCainiac
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Palin is solid. I hate Biden too. It's beautiful to hate. #current
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McCainiac
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Nieciebee
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So far, Palin is holding her own. Biden needs to really sink his teeth into her more aggressively. Quote the facts Biden this way viewers can research and confirm what is being said by both candidates! Forget about all the hype, this country is in a dire mess and we the people are going to pay the tab regardless of who is in office.
- 3 years ago
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Nieciebee
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jossie
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Nieciebee:
We need the Democrats in office NOW... Republicans love spending what they don't have... this is why we are in this mess... we owe it to George "Nucular" Bush... by the way he thaught Palin how to say it too... what a shame...
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jossie
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Jenkins
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I think Biden is doing very well.
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Jenkins
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HolyCity2012
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Jenkins:
great dude.
I don't think anyone expected or said otherwise.
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HolyCity2012
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jossie
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Jenkins:
I agree!!!
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jossie
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kewal91
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Jenkins:
he was for a while... b4 she started owning.. but i though towards the middle like 10mins in he was going to win... but she came out and owned
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kewal91
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krag2112
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Jenkins:
How did she "own"?
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krag2112
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anglcazn
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Jenkins:
She didn't "own" anything. Biden called her on her lies and therefore, she looked like an idiot.
Does anybody know where she is from? (sarcasm)
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anglcazn
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MarshallsCarousel
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Jenkins:
Who even uses the terminology of "owned" in this situation?
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MarshallsCarousel
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HolyCity2012
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Jenkins:
kewal91 has used the phrase "owned" in every single comment and response he has submitted.
Laugh Out Loud
Maybe he should try to be a bit more eloquent whilst discussing politics.
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HolyCity2012
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kewal91
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Jenkins:
eloquence just means using big words.. it creates ambiguity. you need a straightalker and straight words so it eliminates teh space of shifting stance instantly. no on can dictate to me on what kind of language to use and what kind to not..
and i used "owned" in all my responses-its called consistency
and if you wanted an example of her OWNING-i used it there- how about the one where she called him out for blaming bush on everythign and blaming the past when his (and baracks) campaing was about the future and change and what we we're going to do with our country...
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kewal91
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HolyCity2012
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She is pulling a Lois Griffin vs. Mayor West.
"9/11 changed everything"
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HolyCity2012
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Chrismak
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lol, "the ultimate bridge to NO WHERE"
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Chrismak
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dissimulator
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shes doing fine....but it seems she is just repeating all the same talking points we have already heard.....from her and mccain
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dissimulator
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Conniepae
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dissimulator:
She spun the spin. She did get her points across. Shes one of us? How many of us could have done, as well as Sarah Palin? The bar was pretty low.
Joe Biden talked about issues I care about. Joe Biden has a record I support. I dont support any politician 100% of the time. But, I see nothing in the McCain/Palin platform, which I support. I guess Im too old and too informed to be spun by a pretty face. Facts matter, spin needs to be kicked to the curb and move along.
Trying to spin leads me to believe they have no direction. Presidential decisions should be based on fact, not spin! Joe Six-Pack? Leave her at the bar and move along!
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Conniepae
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ObAmababy
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SHE LIAN AND BIDEN IS GETTIN MAD AND WHEN HE GETS MAD HE TELLS WATS ON HIS MIND AND TELLS THE TRUTH
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ObAmababy
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isabella98
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ObAmababy:
I hope you are ready to don the burka when Obama gets elected, Obamababy! Check Biden's facts. They're pure ficton. Best sellers!
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isabella98
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kewal91
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ObAmababy:
brendan, ur wrong obamas plan gives tax breaks at the expense of jobs and lower wages.
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kewal91
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krag2112
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ObAmababy:
How so kewal? Can you support that claim with some facts?
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krag2112
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HardHardTruth
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After this, Palin should go do a bit @ SNL. Be Tina Fey in either Weekend Update or a 30 Rock skit
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HardHardTruth
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HolyCity2012
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HardHardTruth:
yeah dude?
that's a great idea?
Can I offer you an apple juice or some shiny car keys?
- 3 years ago
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HolyCity2012
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ObAmababy
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i think it gives people a say in the debate AND ABOUT THAT WITCH palin
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ObAmababy
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Chrismak
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kicking what?
psht.
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Chrismak
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isee
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do any people out there understand that palin is a good
teleprompter reader? - 3 years ago
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isee
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HolyCity2012
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isee:
What!?
What does that have to do with the debate?
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HolyCity2012
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xyzzypoofs
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isee:
here's the video to support that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hSnEMV58F8 - 3 years ago
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xyzzypoofs
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HolyCity2012
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isee:
Laugh Out Loud support what?
What does any of this have to do with the debate?
You people are crazy.
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HolyCity2012
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xyzzypoofs
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isee:
they do not allow teleprompters in debates dumba$s -- but O'bama can't live without his. And thh-thh-thhhhhh-thhhhhh-ats the tt-tt--ttt----ruth!
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xyzzypoofs
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xyzzypoofs
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isee:
Hi HolyCity ... you are indeed right ... the original poster is an idiot --- (did you watch the video yet? it was a good response to the original poster - even though the poster obviously had no grasp of what was going on)
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xyzzypoofs
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dissimulator
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isee:
you guys do know mccain uses a teleprompter also and has had his troubles also.....they all you a teleprompter ........nothing knew there
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dissimulator
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xyzzypoofs
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isee:
McCain did not use a teleprompter in all of the TownHall meetings that Hussein was too scared to attend
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xyzzypoofs
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dissimulator
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isee:
mccain
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dissimulator
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kewal91
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isee:
EVERY POLITICIAN USES TELEMPROMPTers, their speeches are pre-designed by someone else, yes EVEN baracks. but not in debates. that defeats the whole purpose...
theres just a little timer-counting down seconds.. - 3 years ago
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kewal91
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Brendan_M
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Brendan_M
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isabella98
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Brendan_M:
Palin's facts are all wrong? Have you checked Biden's facts? He was wrong as much as Palin.
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isabella98
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Eat_Disco
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Brendan_M:
No...
biden supported all of his statements. - 3 years ago
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Eat_Disco
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anglcazn
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Brendan_M:
Hey isabella98 and FLSunshine. Stop making multiple accounts. I'm suspecting you're one person who is creating multiple accounts to show a false audience that supports your arguments. It's not working.
- 3 years ago
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anglcazn
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arcticspirit
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Brendan_M:
Sarah didn't make any technical mistakes, but some questioned her style of debate. That was as far as it went. What she said was on target. If she didn't know something she didn't give a false answer.
Now Biden, he looked awesome, so presidential and mature, but what scared the hell out of me is how sincere he looked as Biden looked you in the face, and lied to YOU... 14 times. If that's what you are into, go for it.
1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.
2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.
3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”
4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.
5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.
6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.
7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false
8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.
9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.
11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.
12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.
13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”
14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.
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arcticspirit
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Scott_Bromley
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Of course she is! How is this shocking to ANYONE?!
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HolyCity2012
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Scott_Bromley:
I have exceptionally low expectations for that mixed-up bird.
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HolyCity2012
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Scott_Bromley:
Palin is amazing..she does know her facts.. and she is a great speaker..and is BUSINESS..no crap...you go girl! #current
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FLSunshine
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ane143
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Scott_Bromley:
Do you have any functional brain cells??
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ane143
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FLSunshine
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Scott_Bromley:
biden is a glorified babysitter,... and obama is a BAD kid. #current
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Scott_Bromley:
She OWNS!!!
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kewal91
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anglcazn
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Scott_Bromley:
She owned NOTHING
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anglcazn
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BuddyP
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Scott_Bromley:
she owned bull shit!
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BuddyP
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Scott_Bromley:
uh, florida? you f-d up once before... maybe you should stay away from this and let the adults decide this time... this woman is actually scary sometimes...
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redvelvet1278
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HolyCity2012
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Listening to it at this moment.
Palin is kicking ass.
Yikes! - 3 years ago
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HolyCity2012
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jossie
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HolyCity2012:
yes, she's kicking her OWN!!!
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jossie
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
well she started off a lot better than I was expecting.
Her strategy became more transparent as time went on.
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
kickin ass? she's kikn her own ass..not talking about the issues, just doen wat mccain is doen...AVOIDIN THE TOPIC BY COMMENTED ON WAT OBAMA DID OR DIDNT DO. can we get some real talk here!!!?!?!
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
kinda late to the party with that comment,
dontcha' think? - 3 years ago
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
She is not kicking ass. She is speaking like a student that is repeating by heart the right wing script. She sounded completely scripted throughout the whole debate. She did not had any original thoughts. She has to thank her political life to those who prepare her for this debate. At times she choose to ignore answering some questions because the answer to those were not given to her before hand.
I feel that is so stupid that some voters identify with her because supposedly "She is one of us," due to the fact that she chooses to speak like a hick. I would have thought that the logical thing to do is to choose somebody for this job that is more knowledgeable than must of us, not the opposite. - 3 years ago
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HolyCity2012:
Biden is a proven Statesman. I trust Biden. I can look at his record. Sarah Palins record is in question in Alaska. Right now there is a bi-partisan investigation going on and she has told staff to ignore the subpoenas? She has encouraged her staff to ignore the law? Excuse me, but that certainly sounds like more of the same. George W.s has told his staff to ignore and fight subpoenas? Why? The facts are against them? FACTS MATTER!
Contempt of Court would be my answer! They are not above the law! Sarah Palin stated she thinks the Constitution gives the VP more power? My goodness, we have the Darth Vader now, how can she want more?
Its a fact that her town charged rape victims for their rape kits. What charges would she pass on to ordinary Americans? Victims would pay for being victims of crimes? Thats an Assault on Reason!.
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Conniepae
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HolyCity2012:
That is all so true... Can you imagine her as President? I don't think that she is knowledgeable enough to even be a First Lady for our nation.
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jjmaster
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
where were all these comments when this thread began 14 ours ago. all of your comments have no context as they are 14 hours late.
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
Sorry HolyCity2012, but I was busy 14 hours ago. Is it too late? Is there a time limit? Many of us are trying to post during the time limits we have. This post is still active isnt it?
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Conniepae
