Gaza | January 06, 2009 | 44 comments

Palestinian Origin

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The Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:

* “Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”

* “We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.

* “When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.

This declaration by a true "Palestinian" should have some significance for a sincerely neutral observer.

Indeed, there is no such a thing like a Palestinian people, or a Palestinian culture, or a Palestinian language, or a Palestinian history. There has never been any Palestinian state, neither any Palestinian archaeological find nor coinage. The present-day "Palestinians" are an Arab people, with Arab culture, Arabic language and Arab history.

They have their own 22 Arab states from where they came into the Land of Israel about one century ago to contrast the Jewish immigration. That is the historical truth. They were Jordanians (another recent British invention, as there has never been any people known as "Jordanians"), and after the Six-Day War in which Israel utterly defeated the coalition of nine Arab states and took legitimate possession of Judea and Samaria, the Arab dwellers in those regions underwent a kind of anthropological miracle and discovered that they were Palestinians - something they did not know the day before. Of course, these people having a new identity had to build themselves a history, namely, had to steal some others' history, and the only way that the victims of the theft would not complain is if those victims do no longer exist. Therefore, the Palestinian leaders claimed two contradictory lineages from ancient peoples that inhabited in the Land of Israel: the Canaanites and the Philistines.
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44 comments // Palestinian Origin

  • atee
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      atee  
    • First of all, all these distinctions we're making between people are arbitrary, they're all in our head. Nationality is part of a mind game to divide people so they can fight amongst each other instead of uniting against the currently unseen power elite exploiting us all.

      Speaking of uniting against a common opposition, that is how Palestinians became associated with their nation.
      When outsiders began surging into the land north of Syria, West of Jordan, Surrounded by Jerusalem (however you want to look at it) the people already living there started to identify as Palestinians. They decided to fight for a nation THEY envisioned, just as Theodore Herzl envisioned Israel.( http://www.npr.org/news/specials/mideast/history/tr.../ )
      I don't care about the past references to Palestine or Israel, because what matters is peoples perceptions. And millions of people say "I'm Palestinian". Maybe you want them to say "west bank" or "Gaza" but that's not what they all call themselves.
      You are fostering the idea that identifying as a Palestinian is illegitimate and that is VERY offensive. Doing such a thing is no different than claiming Israel doesn't exist.

      Both notions are ridiculous of course because you cannot destroy ideas that are well established in people psyche. Afterall, what is a nation other than an idea, a perception?

      How about we agree that we are all human beings? Including Palestinians, "Datamined".

    • 2 years ago
  • atee
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      atee  
    • Oh yeah, and saying something is stupid isn't an argument and hurts your credibility. So does spreading ignorance.

      Did anyone else flag?

    • 2 years ago
  • hydrokat
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      hydrokat  
    • There are individuals here who through their ignorance and Intolerance seek to change what has been History and is Recorded History! To a grey ball of wax. Truth does not apply to these individuals. They spout out their misinformation and lies to recreate History to their own Political Agenda. They are the "Apostates", I have seen time after time. They are given the facts, the Data, the Resources yet they still deny, offering no facts or anything to back up their Iies and their decieteful practice of Perversion of the Truth. They speak it, therefore it is Truth. I say , Shit, or get off Yer Throne Perverts of the Truth!

    • 3 years ago
  • Katanajon
  • Katanajon
  • Katanajon
  • arcticspirit
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  • Katanajon
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  • Katanajon
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    • when i turned 8, i moved out of my grandparents house where i used to live. i tried moving back in when i was 24 but my cousin had moved in my room. so, i tried kicking him out because it was my room 16 years ago but he got all huffy puffy with me and had to get my dad involved. he settled to move to the living room because, you know, we're cousins and my mom is awesome. plus, i'm older. we agreed to share the room eventually as soon as he finishes school.

      i still say it's my room cuz i was there before him. (plus, there's a corner there i love to whimper in and i miss it). now that i'm 28 and don't pay any rent, i'd be dumb to move out but he finished school and wants to move back in. i say, 'fuck that!' he's lucky to have the living room! but, now i need my own living room. the basement is open though. it's cold and damp but he'd be lucky to have that!

      so i started locking him out of the bathroom and would turn off the refrigerator at night so his food spoils. he should move out soon! hehe.

      you know what he did? he called my dad and complained, but guess what? he said 'tough! deal with it on your own.' haha!

      now he wants me out of MY room because of an agreement?? so what if he's had it the past 16 years. i was there before! the asshole had the audacity to bring his college friends over. he says they're only over to watch the game but i know they're plotting to jump me.

      so i killed his dog. he should move out soon.

    • 3 years ago
  • datamined
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  • derek901
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    • PHONY PALI CLAIMS TO JUSTIFY ARAB LAND GRABS HAVE BEEN DISCREDITED AS LIES AGES AGO

      Palestinian claims to be related to the Canaanites are a recent phenomenon and contrary to historical evidence. The Canaanites disappeared from the face of the earth three millennia ago, and no one knows if any of their descendants survived or, if they did, who they would be.

      Sherif Hussein, the guardian of the Islamic Holy Places in Arabia, said the Palestinians' ancestors had only been in the area for 1,000 years.

      Even the Palestinians themselves have acknowledged their association with the region came long after the Jews. In testimony before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, for example, they claimed a connection to Palestine of more than 1,000 years, dating back no further than the conquest of Muhammad's followers in the 7th century. And that claim is also dubious.

      Over the last 2,000 years, there have been massive invasions that killed off most of the local people (e.g., the Crusades), migrations, the plague, and other manmade or natural disasters. The entire local population was replaced many times over. During the British mandate alone, more than 100,000 Arabs emigrated from neighboring countries and are today considered Palestinians.

      By contrast, no serious historian questions the more than 3,000-year-old Jewish connection to the Land of Israel, or the modern Jewish people's relation to the ancient Hebrews.

    • 3 years ago
  • datamined
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    • @asherp -- "Palestine" was a roman term from 2000 years ago. It was a geographical term to refer to that area -- israel and jordan -- when the jews were the majority. They used that term rather than "israel" or "judea" to try and remove any jewishness to the area. Again, it was not a political entity, just a geographical area.

      If you think "Palestine" was a country, then tell me who was the leader of the ficticious country of "Palestine" in 1900?

      Up until the 1960's "Palestinian" referred to Jews living in Palestine. Google it. The "Jerusalem Post" used to be called the "Palestine Post". Other jewish organizations were: Palestine Philharmonic, Palestine National Fund, and Palestine Legion.

      In the 1960's, the Soviet Union and the Arab League invented the concept of "Palestinians" to further divide Israel towards their goal of destroying it.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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  • atee
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      atee  
    • datamined:

      First of all, all these distinctions we're making between people are arbitrary, they're all in our head. Nationality is part of a mind game to divide people so they can fight amongst each other instead of uniting against the currently unseen power elite exploiting us all.

      Speaking of uniting against a common opposition, that is how Palestinians became associated with their nation.
      When outsiders began surging into the land north of Syria, West of Jordan, Surrounded by Jerusalem (however you want to look at it) the people already living there started to identify as Palestinians. They decided to fight for a nation THEY envisioned, just as Theodore Herzl envisioned Israel.( http://www.npr.org/news/specials/mideast/history/transcripts/ )
      I don't care about the past references to Palestine or Israel, because what matters is peoples perceptions. And millions of people say "I'm Palestinian". Maybe you want them to say "west bank" or "Gaza" but that's not what they all call themselves.
      You are fostering the idea that identifying as a Palestinian is illegitimate and that is VERY offensive. Doing such a thing is no different than claiming Israel doesn't exist.

      Both notions are ridiculous of course because you cannot destroy ideas that are well established in people psyche. Afterall, what is a nation other than an idea, a perception?

      How about we agree that we are all human beings? Including Palestinians, "Datamined".

    • 2 years ago
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  • derek901
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    • asherp:

      lol

      I have a copy of the Palestinian Post from 1943

      it was a Jewish paper - because "palestine" never had anything to do with Muslims or Arabs until the 1960s when Arafat invented a fiction to enhance the Arab war on Israel

      so you map doesn't prove didly-shit

    • 3 years ago
  • atee
  • Ragan
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      Ragan  
    • Vierotchka is correct. . but to elaborite a bit more We are all common animals, We live and die just like any other animal, We are of a commonality, both animals and humans. Just because the human species have a mutated brain that has the ability to operate just like a biological computer, we are still animals. Religion and mythology came and filled everyones head with foolishness in the primordial times because they did not have the answers to explain the laws of the universe. I would suggest that if we could obliterate religions of all kinds, We the people may just be able to find some common grounds to exist together instead of continously trying to kill each other off.

    • 3 years ago
  • hydrokat
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      hydrokat  
    • Ragan:

      It does not work that way in the Middle East And You have not provided any evidence besides yapping some more intelligible Babble. Is this all You have? Yeah, She's right? Datamined, You cannot possibly think that this type of World Gov. Propoganda. Based on hear say and Television Education, can truthfully understand Middle Eastern Culture? In the Middle East and Jerusalem. You HAVE to prove Your admission to Establish a Major Establishment there. Judaism, Islam, Christianity. Your History IS everything, and the Enemy of Western Civilization knows this.By seeking to compare the Right of Palestine to Israels Right to exist again minimalizes what History has recorded. We know that the Enemies of Israel are bent on Her destruction. The Arabs and Syrians can only benefit by keeping the pot boiling over there. They don't care about the "Palestinian" cause. Why should they? It doesn't effect them. Now Iran has entered the stage. It's a different World for us to understand there. It's Moslem against Moslem against Western Society In that order. It's a Nationalistic Fascist Dictatorship and it reaks! Israel stands before them and say's We will die to the last Man to oppose You. And Americans are dying as We speak. And You sit there and judge, and spread Your Hate and ignorance. That is precisely why We stand against those who would oppose Truth! So YOU, can have Your pitiful Opinions. Because there is no truth in what You speak! Therefore it is nothing more than that.

    • 3 years ago
  • atee
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      atee  
    • Ragan:

      Ragan actually makes sense, religion is very divisive and we could do without it.

      We could also do without aggressive-nationalism and racism.

      All these divisive institutions and social-constructs are part of the reason why this land was forcibly and violently taken from the PALESTINIANS, a people who became united against an outside threat.

    • 2 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Lies, lies, lies.

      The Palestinians are the descendants of the Canaanites whose lands the Hebrews stole through slaughter and genocide three and a bit thousand years ago, and did so again in 1948.

    • 3 years ago
  • datamined
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    • Vierotchka:

      HAHAHA. that's the stupidest thing I've heard.

      The "palestinians" are migrant farm workers from syria and egypt that came to Israel for jobs when the jews started arrive in mass, 160 years ago. That is well documented by turkish and british immigration censuses.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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  • derek901
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      derek901  
    • Vierotchka:

      What utter Bullshit.
      "Palestinians" had as much to do with Cananites as they do with Eskimos.

      56 Muslim countries
      22 Arab cuntrees

      but these Islamist Imperialists want to land grab tiny Israel

      enough of the global jihad terror land grab....

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • Vierotchka:

      Derek, the Palestinians have more to do with the ancient Canaanites than the Jews with the ancient Hebrews. It is Israel which has stolen the land from the Palestinians, not the other way round. Your response is totally foolish and ignorant.

    • 3 years ago
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  • Vierotchka
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  • hydrokat
  • hydrokat
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      hydrokat  
    • Vierotchka:

      OOOPS! There She goes again..waving the arm, lies, lies Child. Remind Me of the Queen of Hearts in Alice. Show some spunk and show us Your Evidence. And Your point was???What's yer bottom line here? Whom do You Serve? You sound like a raging queen.

    • 3 years ago
  • datamined
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    • "There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

      - Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -

      "You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".

      - Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat

    • 3 years ago
  • KillTheRocket
  • datamined
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    • "There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".

      - Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

      "There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".

      - Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

      "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".

      - Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

    • 3 years ago
  • INTELJUNKIE
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      INTELJUNKIE  
    • datamined:

      bwhahahahahaaa...geeezus woman, every i turn your there WTF? what did the native americans say? to put it short it's god's land..so i wonder how man can fight over god's property..mind boggling...illlogical

    • 3 years ago
  • atee
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      atee  
    • datamined:

      First of all, all these distinctions we're making between people are arbitrary, they're all in our head. Nationality is part of a mind game to divide people so they can fight amongst each other instead of uniting against the currently unseen power elite exploiting us all.

      Speaking of uniting against a common opposition, that is how Palestinians became associated with their nation.
      When outsiders began surging into the land north of Syria, West of Jordan, Surrounded by Jerusalem (however you want to look at it) the people already living there started to identify as Palestinians. They decided to fight for a nation THEY envisioned, just as Theodore Herzl envisioned Israel.( http://www.npr.org/news/specials/mideast/history/tr.../ )
      I don't care about the past references to Palestine or Israel, because what matters is peoples perceptions. And millions of people say "I'm Palestinian". Maybe you want them to say "west bank" or "Gaza" but that's not what they all call themselves.
      You are fostering the idea that identifying as a Palestinian is illegitimate and that is VERY offensive. Doing such a thing is no different than claiming Israel doesn't exist.

      Both notions are ridiculous of course because you cannot destroy ideas that are well established in people psyche. Afterall, what is a nation other than an idea, a perception?

      How about we agree that we are all human beings? Including Palestinians, "Datamined".

    • 2 years ago
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