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Jimmy Carter on the US, Hamas, and Israel

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  • VoyagerFilms
  • sepia346
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      sepia346  
    • On Sunday, January 25, CBS "60 Minutes" aired an amazing segment exposing Israel's apartheid against Palestinians. The piece is by Senior CBS Foreign Correspondent Bob Simon, who is Jewish living outside Tel-Aviv and produced by Robert G, Anderson.

    • 3 years ago
  • darkhorsejim
    • 0
      darkhorsejim  
    • Former President Carter has devoted his life to saving as many as he can around the world, oversees contentious election results to appease all & still actively participates in his wonderful Habitat for Humanity. He may not be perfect, but Rosalyn & Jimmy have made the world a better place through their inspiring efforts & activities.

    • 3 years ago
  • navider
    • 0
      navider  
    • Jimmy carter initiated the last peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. Israel broke the agreement in November when they bombed inside Gaza.

      I think he can bring peace since he has already demonstrated it.

      The fact is that there will be no peace as long as Israel doesn't want peace because they would rather expand Israel further into Palestinian territories and sabotage any peace agreement.

    • 3 years ago
  • cerealforeal
    • 0
      cerealforeal  
    • All these Carter haters in here sure do hate peace and loving killing. Why don't yall sign up for the army and go get shipped to die "to fight terrorism"?

    • 3 years ago
  • justright
    • 0
      justright  
    • Carter is still trying to achieve a larger and longer lasting peace accord in the middle east. Why is this so wrong? Those that call for his failure and demise are no better than those that they condemn.

    • 3 years ago
  • sepia346
  • macgarys1
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      macgarys1  
    • Derek90, Derek901, Derek901, Derek901......... Little by little, step by step.. the world is finally waking up...

      Want to hear something funny??? For my whole life, and up to the beginning of the Gaza invasion, I had always sided with Israel on the little i knew... All because i got all of my politically news from CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and BBC..... Then, After researching for 15 minutes on the internet, i confronted a spine chilling reality. Do we really get a bipartisan report from our OWN mainstream media?

      After researching for 1 hour, i'm not going to lie, I got scared, and still on shock i turned off my computer... and thought... nah, that's just the opinion of a few Anti-Semitic... but the next day i decided to shut down the internet and go to a library and learn about, resolutions taken among the WORLD to give the jewish people back their land... and then.. i learn about the wall Israel is building, that wall that goes in many miles beyond where they had agreed their border should be... and around the few water deposit in the region, unfortunaly those deposit where on Palestian land.. but i also learn to Israel that doesn't mean a real line... only an imaginary green line that can be surronded, and then.. i kept reading and also learn about the West Bank and all the illegal colonies Israel has build in palestinian land and the segregations, and how those same walls build by israel trapped hundreds of thousand of Palestinians leaving in one side the israel border who should we mention, had intructions of firing at any person getting near the there... and on the other side.. the big wall....

      And then well... we don't even have to get into the innocent children killed in gaza... cause we all know to you dear derek901 those are just collateral casualties...

      but then.. i also learn that the number of israelis killed by terrorism is but a drop of water in swimming pool compared to the deaths of arabs at hands of the israeli army, and the list went on.. and on.. and on...

      It took me exactly 2 days to wake up from this amazing magical dream where we were the good ones, and we where fighting an evil force so powerful that at any second it could kill every single one of us... JUST BECAUSE THEY HATED OUR FREEDOM

      And my question here is... i know i have asked this before. but... what would the U.S. do if Mexico decided to cross that same imaginary line, that separets Texas from Monterrey and build walls around water deposits, creating villages with big fiestas where only mexicans could live on.. and segregrate the roads and no American/Texans could use those roads... mmmm.... What do you think those Texans would do? i'm sure they would take it gladly right?

      My call here's not to "derek901" or any of those bloggers on this space who are blinded, either by their own political and religious beliefs, or by the lack information intentionally omitted by the mass media in the first world... And that regardless of having evidence of violation of human rights and genocide of innocent children, chose to ignore wrong doing and live without guilt. But all of the people here with common sense... to stop trying to change the minds of these few.. And reach out to the rest of the world and create awareness... Like me, there's millions of people that don't know any better because of the media.. i invite you to send emails, links, talk about the reality of this conflict and help the world to WAKE UP... Just like a bunch of you did with ME, for that i thank this community...

      and Derek901 before you send your Anti-Semitic insult to my face.. you should know i'm born and raced in Mexico few people know of racism and leaving in a foreign land as i do.. and my wife is Jewish... so i know all the name calling in the book... Unfortuanally this time buddy.. it won't apply to me

      P.S. Take a red pill Neo

    • 3 years ago
  • cross2
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      cross2  
    • The only reason the "peace" was broken was because Hamas broke it. They chose to break it by breaking the truce, over and over. To have a truce in Arab countries only means to re-arm and so when the Israelis genuinely make a truce to end the fighting, Hamas is calling a "time-out" so they can reload, re-arm and start shelling again. Then they are so suprised when Israel fights back? Why? Would you be surprised if you hit someone and they hit you back? No, but they are. No common sense, that's what it amounts to. I hope Israel bombs them into the ground.

    • 3 years ago
  • Vierotchka
  • bluestranger
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      bluestranger  
    • Most of the responders seem to be ill informed. President Carter's work on the mid east peace process took place while in office. This is what he received the Noble Peace Prize for. He achieved a peace that has lasted until the present between Egypt and Israel. As for him being a shill or a phony this simply is not true. His hands on work on worldwide human rights and poverty speak for him much louder than any voice possibly could.

    • 3 years ago
  • capt_ayhab
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      capt_ayhab  
    • the lengths Israeli PROPAGANDA machine will go in order to smear one of the most peace loving individuals who walked the earth.
      Such a shame when the TRUTH is bent to feed the Israeli propaganda machine.
      Mr. Carter, decent people admire your courage and honesty. God bless SIR.

    • 3 years ago
  • discreetlove0
    • discreetlove0  
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  • sepia346
  • capt_ayhab
  • sepia346
  • DouginLA
  • sepia346
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      sepia346  
    • sepia346:

      Please weep for yourself. You have watched too much of FoxNews. You need to cleanse your brain a little bit from what Rupert Murdock's brain-washing machine feeds you.

    • 3 years ago
  • GoliathandDavid
  • matadormedia
  • GoliathandDavid
  • Vierotchka
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      Vierotchka  
    • matadormedia:

      He gets his talking points and links to websites from which to copy/paste mendacious Israeli propaganda from the Israeli Foreign Ministry. He is what is known as a Hasbara sock-puppet. There is about a dozen of those posting their hateful and racist crap on Current wherever Gaza is the subject.

    • 3 years ago
  • yonie
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      yonie  
    • I have respect for the way Jimmy Carter tries to fix the situation. He didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize for nothing.

    • 3 years ago
  • DouginLA
  • el_chivo
  • GoliathandDavid
  • derek901
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      derek901  
    • Carter claims Hamas agreed to accept any peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinian Authority under President Mahmoud Abbas "approved by a majority vote of Palestinians in a referendum or by an elected unity government." Coming from Hamas, these are vitiating conditions: it could undermine or invalidate a referendum outcome it opposed, and do the same in a unity government.
      The ex-president writes of "military activity by both sides ...." Hamas is designated a terrorist organization by the United States, Israel, European Union, Canada and other countries in large part because its "military activity" consists primarily of attacking non-combatants, a basic violation of military law.
      Carter faults Israel for allegedly not restoring delivery of humanitarian supplies to the Gaza Strip to the level before Israeli withdrawal in 2005. He doesn't mention that Israel withdrew in the expectation of peace, not the firing of thousands of rockets and mortars by Hamas and its terrorist allies. Carter also ignores that even though Israel continued to supply the Strip with much of its electricity and other basic goods and services, plus significant amounts of water, it was under no obligation to do so for a "hostile entity."
      The ex-president puts the word in quotation marks when writing of Israeli "combat" in Gaza and implies targeting certain mosques, a school, some private homes is not legitimate. Nothing from Carter on Hamas' use of such places as firing positions, weapons storage, terrorist shelters, and so on.
      He implies Israel intentionally destroys water, sanitation and other infrastructure and refers to "heavy civilian casualties." Infrastructure damage as has occurred is inevitable, given the Hamas strategy of hiding behind Palestinian civilians. Though tragic, civilian fatality rates of 25 - 30 percent - as reported by U.N. and Palestinian medical sources, which may not be reliable - only underscore Israeli attempts to limit such casualties.
      Joshua Muravchik's February, 2007 Commentary essay about Jimmy Carter was headlined, "Our Worst Ex-President." Unfortunately, when it comes to Arab-Israeli pontificating, Mr. Carter is also The Washington Post's worst – and most frequent – revisionist.

    • 3 years ago
  • derek901
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      derek901  
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    • Carter Shills for Hamas
      Jimmy Carter is the David Irving of Middle East revisionism. Whatever reputation Irving had as a military history writer he destroyed with Holocaust revisionism and denial. Carter, whose anti-Israel tantrums reveal him as much an authority on Arab-Israeli matters as Irving on the Holocaust, still finds an audience – recurrently through The Washington Post's Op-Ed pages. His latest, An Unnecessary War (January 8, 2009), amounts to a Hamas' public relations release. Apparently, being a former president means never having to check your facts or logic.
      Carter's pro-Hamas column seems to stem from unbridled narcissism. His lead sentence reads: "I know from personal involvement that the devastating invasion of Gaza by Israel could easily have been avoided." The piece contains 11 more personal references (my, we, us) in its 11 paragraphs. The text may be Gaza, but the subtext is how important Jimmy Carter is. According to Carter, he played a key role in securing the Egyptian-mediated six-month Israeli-Hamas truce last spring. This singular delusion lets him misrepresent Arab-Israeli realities.
      The ex-president claims the "fundamental difference between the two sides," Israel and Hamas, is that the former "wanted a comprehensive cease-fire in both the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and the Israelis refused to discuss anything other than Gaza." The fundamental difference is that Israel seeks peace with the Arabs and Hamas seeks the destruction of the Jewish state and establishment of an Islamic theocracy in its place. It uses cease-fires to gain strength and to subvert the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority in the West Bank.
      Carter relies on an anti-Israel U.N. source to claim "we knew that the 1.5 million inhabitants of [the] Gaza [Strip] were being starved." A libel, not a fact. There was no food shortage, let alone starvation, prior to Hamas' termination of a six-month cease-fire on December 19.
      The former president labels a Hamas tunnel dug as part of a scheme to kidnap Israelis as "defensive." As if such a tunnel wasn't used to facilitate the killing of two soldiers in Israel and capture of a third, Cpt. Gilad Shalit, in 2006. Carter decries Israel's November 4 tunnel destruction as a "partial" breaking of the truce, though Hamas and its allies had resumed rocket and mortar fire at Israel.
      He describes the fence helping to control terrorist infiltration as "the wall that encloses Gaza." What "enclosed" Gaza - there are a half-dozen crossing points between Israel and the Strip and one major one between it and Egypt - was the Palestinians' 2006 election of a terrorist organization, Hamas, to lead them and Hamas' bloody ouster of its former Fatah partners in the PA the following year.
      He portrays positively Hamas' leaders consideration of a Gaza-only cease-fire, "provided Israel would not attack Gaza and would permit normal humanitarian supplies to be delivered ...." This imputes good-faith to Hamas and implies Israel was attacking Gaza, not conducting limited counter-terrorism operations, and that it was not permitting humanitarian deliveries when it was.

    • 3 years ago
  • derek901
  • capt_ayhab
  • sepia346
  • macgarys1
    • 0
      macgarys1  
    • derek901:

      Derek90, Derek901, Derek901, Derek901......... Little by little, step by step.. the world is finally waking up...

      Want to hear something funny??? For my whole life, and up to the beginning of the Gaza invasion, I had always sided with Israel on the little i knew... All because i got all of my politically news from CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC and BBC..... Then, After researching for 15 minutes on the internet, i confronted a spine chilling reality. Do we really get a bipartisan report from our OWN mainstream media?

      After researching for 1 hour, i'm not going to lie, I got scared, and still on shock i turned off my computer... and thought... nah, that's just the opinion of a few Anti-Semitic... but the next day i decided to shut down the internet and go to a library and learn about, resolutions taken among the WORLD to give the jewish people back their land... and then.. i learn about the wall Israel is building, that wall that goes in many miles beyond where they had agreed their border should be... and around the few water deposit in the region, unfortunaly those deposit where on Palestian land.. but i also learn to Israel that doesn't mean a real line... only an imaginary green line that can be surronded, and then.. i kept reading and also learn about the West Bank and all the illegal colonies Israel has build in palestinian land and the segregations, and how those same walls build by israel trapped hundreds of thousand of Palestinians leaving in one side the israel border who should we mention, had intructions of firing at any person getting near the there... and on the other side.. the big wall....

      And then well... we don't even have to get into the innocent children killed in gaza... cause we all know to you dear derek901 those are just collateral casualties...

      but then.. i also learn that the number of israelis killed by terrorism is but a drop of water in swimming pool compared to the deaths of arabs at hands of the israeli army, and the list went on.. and on.. and on...

      It took me exactly 2 days to wake up from this amazing magical dream where we were the good ones, and we where fighting an evil force so powerful that at any second it could kill every single one of us... JUST BECAUSE THEY HATED OUR FREEDOM

      And my question here is... i know i have asked this before. but... what would the U.S. do if Mexico decided to cross that same imaginary line, that separets Texas from Monterrey and build walls around water deposits, creating villages with big fiestas where only mexicans could live on.. and segregrate the roads and no American/Texans could use those roads... mmmm.... What do you think those Texans would do? i'm sure they would take it gladly right?

      My call here's not to "derek901" or any of those bloggers on this space who are blinded, either by their own political and religious beliefs, or by the lack information intentionally omitted by the mass media in the first world... And that regardless of having evidence of violation of human rights and genocide of innocent children, chose to ignore wrong doing and live without guilt. But all of the people here with common sense... to stop trying to change the minds of these few.. And reach out to the rest of the world and create awareness... Like me, there's millions of people that don't know any better because of the media.. i invite you to send emails, links, talk about the reality of this conflict and help the world to WAKE UP... Just like a bunch of you did with ME, for that i thank this community...

      and Derek901 before you send your Anti-Semitic insult to my face.. you should know i'm born and raced in Mexico few people know of racism and leaving in a foreign land as i do.. and my wife is Jewish... so i know all the name calling in the book... Unfortuanally this time buddy.. it won't apply to me

      P.S. Take a red pill Neo

    • 3 years ago
  • cerealforeal
  • Ihatethemall
    • 0
      Ihatethemall  
    • derek901:

      MACGARY, welcome to the world of the informed. we are glad to have you with us. Now all we need to do is get the rest of the world as informed as you are the the jewish lies will no longer be believed.

    • 3 years ago
  • BlueSosa
    • 0
      BlueSosa  
    • Why do US politicians develop a sense of relative justice only before and after - never during - the time when they are in power?

    • 3 years ago
  • sepia346
  • BlueSosa
    • 0
      BlueSosa  
    • BlueSosa:

      sepia3461: most definitely. It was rhetorical question, after all.

      Although, I must say, my statement applies in other cases as well, such as Obama's championing of social causes before running for US President and Al Gore's environmental epiphany after he left office.

    • 3 years ago
  • sepia346
  • GoliathandDavid
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