If bankers donated just 10% of bonuses to Haiti, $4.7 billion would go to a country in need
source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122618158&sc=fb&cc=fp
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And what bonuses: The above article reports that Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and JPMorgan Chase combined have set aside $47 billion for bonuses.
$47 billion in bonuses.
Haiti's annual gross domestic product in nominal terms is about $7 billion a year.
So here is a modest proposal: Since public monies clearly were the basis for a lot of the "profits" the banks and finance houses made in 2009, why don't the executives show at least a little common decency and donate 10 percent of these bonuses to Haiti reconstruction and development? That would be $4.7 billion, and it would go a very long way in Haiti.
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timfinn
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Please people you can't possibly believe that your money is going to Haiti. I mean really, is everyone that ignorant? Its going right into the pockets of BUSH and Clinton. He said in his speech don't send anything but cash and he will be sure it goes right where it should. He also said he was sick to his stomach when he saw the wrecked torn photos of Haiti, yet being responsible for killing over 3000 people on 9/11 didn't do anything except make him A NERVOUS LIAR! google Zeitgeistmovie watch and learn more than you have ever learned from any institution thus far in your life
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timfinn
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WeAreChangeKy
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timfinn:
Wow, timfinn is informed, nice to meet you and welcome to the site. We can use a few more people with their eyes open.
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WeAreChangeKy
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maisry
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"If bankers donated just 10% of bonuses to Haiti," That is a BIG "if."
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maisry
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rknowlton91
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the hatred for bankers is starting to get eerie. I know may be entirely unrelated but i feel hints of antisemitism. Obviously this is not coming from most people but its just such an eerie thing. Sure, bankers should donate some money, so should most people who spend on nothing but improvements to their own lives. Income connects to a strange sliding scale of "needs" and nobody; bankers or otherwise, donates such a sum of their own money when they could be saving and/or wasting it. Charity needs to be "closer to home" for most people too, unless you've lived through most of these things they don't seem so bad. Aid for countries like this before the disaster, now thats the kind of thinking we need.
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rknowlton91
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WeAreChangeKy
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Silly tacman, partisan politics cloud judgement. Yes, Bush was evil but I never separate the two parties or Presidents. Washington is Washington no matter who's at the helm. Corrupt, criminal, bank worshiping liars, all of them.
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WeAreChangeKy
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turboboy
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Oh no no no. Let them keep the money. It wont bring them happiness, but they think it will. These people keep searching for it. I need more money, i need more money, I need, I need..... What good is it for a man to gain the whole world an loose his soul...
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turboboy
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rspnsblcitizen
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Vote them all out
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rspnsblcitizen
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telcod
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to tacman12: That's right brother, all things are connected. But let's not applaude Obama for stepping over the bodies for some photo ops. He has to perform here given our abysmal failures responding to Katrina and the tsunami. Where was he then. Quit looking for demigods in politicians and hold all their feet to the fire. Jesus was not a friend to Rome. I am maybe more concerned about the government (and American flags) in church, than a few people saying prayers in school.
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telcod
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tacman12
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@WeAreChangeKy It's naive to think that Bush didn't have anything to do with this. He kept Haiti down on purpose for eight years so they couldn't build buildings that could withstand earthquakes. Basically, Bush is a criminal in all this. Wake up Sheeple!
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tacman12
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Pablo_Discobar
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We've started a Facebook group 'Bankers Bonuses to Haiti'. If you sympathize with this sentiment please join and share with your friends. Thanks
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Pablo_Discobar
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WeAreChangeKy
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tacman12 said: I am going to say what everyone seems scared to say: This is George W. Bush's fault./// I voted Democrat and that's still just silly.
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WeAreChangeKy
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gzilla
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hey carlos, yeah, you're completely right - not a penny of it would ever see it's way to those that need it. you're right - everything is so completely corrupt, there is no hope. we probably should just give up. capitalism is more important than charity anyway. i promise to never seek out utopian ideals. i'm sure the banker earned every penny of it anyway. why should poor brown people ever get any help? they're too lazy to work, right?
p.s. - you're a jerk.
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gzilla
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tacman12
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I am going to say what everyone seems scared to say: This is George W. Bush's fault.
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kingdomformydonkey
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well, we all know that bankers are of no benefit to the society. just a bunch of wankers.
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Monkey_Films
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And what about all the idiots who defaulted on their payment. I'm fairly confident you put zero blame on the people who took out loans for house they knew they wouldn't of been able to afford. Also, bonuses for them isn't the same as the ones you would get. It's considered part of their salary in a lot of companies. It's just labeled that for tax purposes. They recieve a low salary and are compensated with large "bonuses". WHAT? Their 'low pay' is in the realm of 250,000 to 1 million dollars a year. And then, you say they get large bonuses to compensate for that? And then, they stole the bailout money to boot?
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Monkey_Films
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unlucky777
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Monkey_Films:
Welcome to America where the upper class average well over upper 6 figure to 7 figure salaries. Before you complain about the bankers, focus your complaints on the unreasonable gap between middle and upper class.
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unlucky777
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telcod
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All of us act selfishly and are manipulative every hour of every day. Mother Teresa was the most selfish person I am aware of recently. She always did exactly what she wanted. Think about it and save your mightier than thou crap. Those people in Haiti have suffered for decades and frequently under the boot of our beloved country and corporations. Now it is in your face and suddenly you all feel moved to tears? What is the civilian body count in Iraq and Afghanistan these days? And why are we there? Please remind me you democrats, you republicans, you liberals, Mr. Obama. Double talk, the new (actually, very old) official language of these God blessed United States.
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telcod
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Monkey_Films
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tacman, everyone and our children and grandchildren already gave more than 10%. IT WAS CALLED THE BAILOUT!
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Monkey_Films
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cancun999
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To all who ASSume that some/most have yet to donate you are sadly mistaken. Cast stones? Come on folks, I use curse words because I like it, but it should not make me less intelligent than all of you perfect people who've responded with such hatred towards a mire opinion that I stated. If I said that I live paycheck to paycheck and with higher property taxes on the brink of losing my home am I bad only because I could give 40 bucks?! Who is really casting stones here? I know who to read. Is it so terrible to say that people who are very well off should contribute; at least they can write it off their taxes! Sorry to have a FUCKING OPINION.
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cancun999
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calm_incense
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How would any of you even know if any bankers DID donate money to Haiti?
Answer: You wouldn't.
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calm_incense
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tacman12
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What about other industries? Why not the Oil companies or the drug companies? What were their bonuses? I guess the only fair way to really do this would be to charge 10% from everyone in the country. We should have a special "Relief for Haiti" Tax on every American!
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tacman12
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NotFooled
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tacman12:
No they shouldn't; Firstly you shouldn't make anyone give their money to anyone if they don't want to and secondly, they are not Americans so why would you take money from people and give it to another nationality without their consent. Some of you have totally lost your mind.
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NotFooled
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rspnsblcitizen
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all of you folks commenting should also pony up and donate 10% of your salary, spend your own money first, then cast stones
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EdJoyProductions
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I organized a collection at my job for Doctors Without Borders and donated to the Red Cross. And I have never gotten any bonus in my life for my career in social work, much less one that amounts to millions. And I believe that my work is more valuable than any banker at this juncture because, oh I dunno, LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO THE ECONOMY OF THE WORLD!
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EdJoyProductions
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unlucky777
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EdJoyProductions:
And what about all the idiots who defaulted on their payment. I'm fairly confident you put zero blame on the people who took out loans for house they knew they wouldn't of been able to afford.
Also, bonuses for them isn't the same as the ones you would get. It's considered part of their salary in a lot of companies. It's just labeled that for tax purposes. They recieve a low salary and are compensated with large "bonuses".
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unlucky777
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animaladvocate
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First, those spineless, greedy idiots would never give any of their money to anyone in need. Also, do you really think the people who need it would get it? It would go to the corrupt police officers and other city planners.
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calm_incense
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animaladvocate:
"First, those spineless, greedy idiots would never give any of their money to anyone in need."
Nor would most anyone else, regardless of how much money they had.
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calm_incense
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NotFooled
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For all of you who think that the money that the bankers have received should go to Haiti, what are you doing to help ?
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NotFooled
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unlucky777
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Donating money won't change their public image so why would they? "Oh it's the right thing to do!" is very subjective because I'd rather see money being used to help people in need in America.
Seems like the majority of people here blindly demonize bankers without knowing all the facts. Did you know these companies were contractually obligated to give out the bonuses? Did you know a portion of people recieving bonuses opted to give it back to the company? "Set aside" is not the same thing as paid.
Don't get me wrong... I don't like how the upper class (not just bankers) are unreasonably richer then the middle class, but welcome to America; a capitalist country.
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unlucky777
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Monkey_Films
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No we don't. My agenda isn't political./////Says (JanforGore) Ironic.
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JonRaymond
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http://current.com/items/91913171_hey-wall-street-big-money-in-haiti-now.htm
$$$$ Actually Haiti is a big opportunity for Wall Street $$$$$
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JonRaymond
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JonRaymond:
telcod should have that rifle rammed somewhere, lol.
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WeAreChangeKy
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JonRaymond:
telcod should have that rifle rammed somewhere, lol.
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junsumoney
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I think the argument of the article is completely stupid. Yes, Haiti is in desperate need, and if any non-government institutions would like to help with support from people, it's okay. However, acting like it's a moral obligation is not true. I would like to help Haiti because it would make me happy, personally. Others would not, including those bankers.
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telcod
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I'm with the bankers. F__k You Haiti and F__k You America.
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telcod
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telcod:
You'd make a great death row inmate. That's a classic set of last words.
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JonRaymond
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calm_incense
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telcod:
I'm with the Malthusians: F__k You Haiti.
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calm_incense
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JanforGore
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No we don't. My agenda isn't political.
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JanforGore
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JanforGore:
That's silly, I am the only person here not afilliated with a political party, except HomieCow and Monkey, that is.
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WeAreChangeKy
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WeAreChangeKy
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Wow, we have more in common with you than you think, myself and Monkey, Jan. Well said, Bravo!
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WeAreChangeKy
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earning money through unethical means doesn't mean you're more selfish—it means you're more CAPABLE. calm_incense, i think you meant ethical, not unethical, you should edit that to make the point correctly, it throws off the meaning.
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WeAreChangeKy
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calm_incense
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WeAreChangeKy:
Uh, no. I meant "unethical".
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calm_incense
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WeAreChangeKy:
You're a perverse fuck. Nothing personal. I'm just being unethical.
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JonRaymond
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Homiecow
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I do not think that the bankers should be getting any kind of bonus until they pay us back what they stole. Of coarse then they would be in prison where they all belong.
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calm_incense
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Homiecow:
One day you'll realize that we are all the same.
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JonRaymond
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Homiecow:
But some of us are more equal than others.
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JanforGore
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But that would require having a beating heart and a moral compass. They should have to give back the agricultural self sufficiency they took away with their "loans," inflated prices, speculation, forced GMO aid, and destruction of their infrastructure. Cold hearted greedy selfish bastards.
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JanforGore
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EdJoyProductions
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You are defending bankers?
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calm_incense
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It's so cute seeing all of you demonize bankers—the one-size-fits-all scapegoats—thus making you feel better about your own pathetically insubstantial "sacrifices" for the Haitian people.
Saving the world from the comfort of your own bedroom—how convenient!
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calm_incense:
You are defending bankers? Seriously?
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calm_incense:
Damn right I am.
Anyone who demonizes anonymous people solely by basis of their freakin' profession is a top-notch idiot. Having more money doesn't mean you're more more selfish; earning money through unethical means doesn't mean you're more selfish—it means you're more CAPABLE.
We'd ALL like more money—greed is not limited to only those competent and hard-working enough to turn that desire into a reality.
If you care so much about the poor people of the world, here's what you do:
1. Become a banker.
2. Become filthy-rich.
3. Donate that money to the poor peoples of the world.
If you want so badly for bankers to donate their money, MAKE IT A REALITY, starting with YOURSELF.
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calm_incense
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calm_incense:
Anonymous?
So if someone commits a crime it's OK as long as long they're anonymous?
Do you know the names of all the members of al Qaeda? They're anonymous.
al Qaeda are capable.
You're full of shit.
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JonRaymond
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calm_incense:
A person's chances of becoming a CEO of one of these corporations is slimmer than a person's chances of becoming an NBA all star. Unless you're being sarcastic, your argument is completely wrong and pretty damn stupid.
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calm_incense:
"Unless you're being sarcastic, your argument is completely wrong and pretty damn stupid."
Great, then it'll fit right in!
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calm_incense:
calm_incense has hit the jackpot with the stupidest statement I think I have ever read.
" earning money through unethical means doesn't mean you're more selfish—it means you're more CAPABLE."
John Dillinger wasn't a criminal, he was just an over achiever. Jessie James wasn't a bank robber, he was a capable entrepreneur. The nazis were really capable people that we just didn't try to understand hard enough.
HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME calm_incense!!!
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calm_incense:
Bank robbery doesn't mean you're more selfish; it simply means you're willing to take greater risk to achieve the same thing EVERYBODY else wants—more money.
Nazism has nothing to do with selfishness, so I don't even know why you brought it up. Are you confusing the "evil" with "selfish"? Maybe that's why you found my comment so stupid—because you don't know how to fucking read.
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calm_incense:
Nazism has a lot to do with selfishness and greed.....they wanted world domination which I would have to say was a rather selfish idea. By the way......using the "F" word in your reply doesn't make you come across as a more intelligent individual, it actually has quite the opposite effect.
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calm_incense:
Ignoring my main point doesn't make you come across as a more intelligent individual; it actually has quite the opposite effect.
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calm_incense:
Oh, and dying for your cause is not "selfish".
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calm_incense:
Your username is poorly chosen...I would suggest something like "raging_hemorrhoid" as a more appropriate moniker.
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calm_incense:
Going even *more* off-topic? Brilliant.
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Bankers know no bounds when it comes to OUR hard-earned cash. They charge us for every little damn thing now just because they see us as idiots, which some of us are. I say ban the banking system and let the ---no, wait, the government takes our money in the form of taxes and the IRS! Fuck that!
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TheDestinyWolf
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Westnewport
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Or they could progressively tax those bonuses and help the national debt...
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cancun999
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Can you imagine if that really happened.? Not even for a second could I believe that those richy rich effers would even think about it. Tomorrow they'll dine with 400,000 dollar bottles of booze and all the drugs and whores they can cram on a yacht.
AND VICGAL IS A D-BAG. Don't tell me that it wouldn't help. Go cyber and stuff ur pie hole u fag.
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cancun999
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ARizzzz
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smoke and Sh*t ?????
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ARizzzz
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magic6435
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And it would all come back to us from all the Miami rice we force Haiti to buy so that they don't develop their own agriculture or become self sufficient.
We have spent the past 30 years making sure Haiti could not support its self do you really think we are going to undo all that hard work?
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magic6435
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Saladin
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Haiti is where Walt Disney gets its slave wage labor from, don't count on it.
We regularly intervene in their government to keep it that way, why would they give a shit?
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coffeemusician
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wow, how am i suppose to feel patriotism, how am i suppose to be proud to be an american, i would rather live in a third-world country where death is at my door-step than just sit here and watch as our government does nothing to resolve this, and that corporate scumbags can continue to rob us blind and leave us without any dignity in the world. we are all guilty of sitting back and taking it up the ass. meanwhile the bankers are laughing all the way to the... banks! banks banks banks banks banks! you're better off setting your money on fire than investing your money when all it does is fill their pockets. what are they doing with all of our money anyway? buying more mansions? summer homes? condos? yachts? sportscars? hookers?
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coffeemusician:
You do live in a third world country
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JonRaymond
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EdJoyProductions
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If the recipients of these ill gotten gains at the banks are too heartless to sacrifice those bonuses to Haiti, then I hope the Karmic justice is swift and painful.
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stephenthomson
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I like the post. It puts things in perspective.
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CarolineS
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Unfortunatly this donation from the bankers would never happen in a utopia, because they wouldnt be making that kind of money in the first place!
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CarolineS
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eternal_springs
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Great post! I can see it now....people of the world caring for other people of the world, doing the RIGHT thing. If only it would happen!
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eternal_springs:
Not when it comes to cold-hearted, money-hungry bankers. They haven't the ability to care... damn them.
Just give it all to Medicins Sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders) so these people can have their amputations, their surgeries, their medications, their antibiotics, their pain-killers. MSF lost all three of its Haiti facilities in the earthquake. Haiti needs a surgical hospital -- imagine that money going to MSF, who could then see to it that one is built... QUICKLY, because we all know it CAN be done.
Give it directly to the orphanages so they can immediately build MORE orphanages.
Give it to nonprofit organizations who can directly hand over bedding, cots, water, food, at-least-temporary shelter, toilets........
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EthicalVegan
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JonRaymond
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No problem, at the appropriate inflated interest rates, of course.
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WeAreChangeKy
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Awesome post, come on bankers, you got the money free from us anyway.
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Eternalposer
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It could go to Haiti, it could provide healthcare for 974,295 americans, it could feed countless starving children around the world. The last place it should go is into the bankers already overflowing pockets.
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CalgarC
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don't ask the bankers to go out of their way, can't you see they are busy!
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Carlos_De_Tirado
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That is the stupidest statement I have ever heard. To tell the bankers to give there money to Hati is complete and utter bs. If you gave that money to Hati the Hatians would be the last people to get it. When I hear liberal utopian BS like that all that I can think of is someone hitting a bong and talking crap like that.
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EthicalVegan
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Carlos_De_Tirado:
Then let it go to medical aid, whatever it takes to get it directly to the suffering PEOPLE. A surgical hospital could be built and fully equipped. These people are now undergoing street-side amputations without anesthesia.
That's just one "for instance."
So give the money to Medicins Sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders).
Have volunteers hand over, directly to the suffering people, blankets, food, water, cots, etc.
It CAN be done... and SHOULD be.
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EthicalVegan
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Carlos_De_Tirado:
Thanks again Carlos for proving that conservatism is nothing but knee-jerk, angry old people bullshit devoid of any intelligence or context.
Here's a clue, the money would go to rebuilding the god damn infrastructure, feeding people and providing medical care. Which is what EVERYONE does after a disaster. It's not a handout.
I'm guessing you gave money to Katrina victims right? Which would also make you a hypocrite. At least keep your standards straight.
Seriously, I'd take the pot smoker over the chicken hawk any day. He can think clearer than you even when he's stoned.
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Saladin
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Carlos_De_Tirado:
Well in many ways Carlos is correct, Donating money to hati for anything but relief will probably do nothing. In fact, Hati has needed money for years but it wasn't until this natural disaster than anyone cared enough to recognize Hati's weak infrastructure, corrupt government, and overall disparity. Asking people to just donate money will do very little, and asking corporate CEO's to do it will get you even less far. I admit, I believe that many business leaders are overpaid, but rightfully so. They spend years in college, and work extraordinarily demanding jobs. Most have weak home lives and ill relationships with there families. They get paid at times exorbitant amounts of money because the decisions they make are important, and require training that is rare.
Now donating to an organization such as doctors without borders is a terrific idea, but lets be clear with this, it will not fix Hati. Perhaps it will give some temporary relief, help ease the suffering of an already distraught society, but its not the end all answer.
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Carlos_De_Tirado:
Not to end all, but Doctors Without Borders can surgically remove crushed limbs. They can operate and repair/remove crushed internal organs. They can prescribe and administer painkillers. They can prescribe/administer any meds that the people who were ALREADY on meds no longer have access to. They can try to heal damaged eyes. They can build and set prostheses. And more. And more. And more.
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Carlos_De_Tirado:
Wow nonsensical emotionally blinded conservatism. This is why pride and honor is our ultimate downfall. And did i just hear that bankers have demanding jobs? CEO's deserve bonuses? Thats completely false. They sit back and use our economic enslavement of debt and loans to make their money. That statement could even be considered MORALLY incorrect seeing how many people are forced to foreclose homes, and mortgage properties due to failed banking practices. OUR ECONOMIC POLICY IS A WEAK AND UNSUPPORTED THEORY!
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Carlos_De_Tirado:
Bottom line, if you can make an argument AGAINST giving to a good cause, especially one like giving to the disaster victims in Haiti, whether it be a simple or complex argument, YOU ARE A HEARTLESS ASSHOLE. PERIOD. I hope you all die helpless, in a pile of rubble. It's the only way this lesson of humanitarianism will get through you're thick skulls and selfish ideals.
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vicgal
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good luck
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vicgal
