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There is documented evidence dated as far back as 2004 that Haiti may indeed have oil reserves under it and that the U.S. and others have an interest in exploring for oil there.

"There is evidence that the United States found oil in Haiti decades ago and due to the geopolitical circumstances and big business interests of that era made the decision to keep Haitian oil in reserve for when Middle Eastern oil had dried up. This is detailed by Dr. Georges Michel in an article dated March 27, 2004 outlining the history of oil explorations and oil reserves in Haiti and in the research of Dr. Ginette and Daniel Mathurin. "
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  • skylab
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      skylab  
    • Too bad no-one thought that the oil might help. . .Haitians!!
      Why wouldn't the Haitians go to say, the Germans, and get funding to drill and refine their own oil. What am I missing here?

    • 21 days ago
  • wizardofoz
  • wizardofoz
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      wizardofoz  
    • Think about it, is it enough to make you stop driving cars and flying planes? Stop the demand and the money will stop flowing and the corruption will stop.

    • 7 months ago
  • rgrisham
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      rgrisham  
    • Haiti's people will suffer a new outrage with a new American "Foreign Policy" toward Haiti oil potential. I cannot pretend to understand the nightmare the population of Haiti has suffered under European and American policies. Exploiting is America's #1 export!!!

    • 7 months ago
  • Toughth
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      Toughth  
    • Now all the corperate America has to do is figure out how to keep the Hatian people poor and make themselves richer in the mix and how to keep from paying tax on the profit. Ureka they can claim they driled for oil and gave less than poverty wage as a charitable thing to do after the earthquake an really shaft everyone while making a 500 percent profit.

    • 1 year ago
  • Sw3rv
  • WeAreChangeKy
  • lu7cky
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      lu7cky  
    • I guess the fact the the US get's most of it's oil from the US, Mexico and Canada doesn't fit into the conspirital construct of occcupying Haiti. Since we already get most of what we need from countries friendly with the US why do we need to takeover another country to get it?

    • 2 years ago
  • Wetdog
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      Wetdog  
    • lu7cky:

      Check again, the US imports roughly 75% of its petroleum usage. This is causing the value of the US dollar to sink like a rock. There is talk among OPEC members about suspending trading oil in the USD because of this. If this happens, expect the price of oil to skyrocket.

      If you think the last price spike in oil price was a shock---you ain't seen nuthin' yet!

      The time to be getting ready is now----not after it happens.

      BTW----Mexican oil fields are drying up----PetroMex exports are way down, which is a major source of income for the Mexican government. The Mexican government is verging on bankruptcy now. This is the reason for all the crime and riots going on in Mexico right now----and the reason we are spending over $30 Billion trying to build a wall across 800 miles of border to try to keep it out. Which is not working.

      Canadian oil comes from tar sand bitumen. Very expensive and destructive to mine and process. As more and more Bitumen comes into the mix going to refineries, you can expect the price of crude oil to at least double. Even if everything else remains exactly the same(doubtful at best), you can expect the price of gasoline to go to $6/gal. Add any little market disturbance, bad weather, shipping accident, pipeline break, anywhere, anytime----and gasoline will hump out at over $7-8/gal.

      Bury your head in the sand in denial if you want to----but it would not be a good idea to bury your head in tar sands---it might be very hard to get it back out again.

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
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      JonRaymond  
    • lu7cky:

      It is a well know fact that the world's oil supply is quite finite. We expect to dry out worldwide within 20 years or so. As it is now we see people scrabbling to find oil. You've certainly heard of all the controversy about off shore drilling which was supposed to be banned but now we have pressure to do that. We are constantly searching for new pockets of oil.

      if you take the time to read these articles and the linked articles they are derived from, you'll find that the U.S. supposedly had the Haiti oil reverves agenda on hold. They had been waiting for an opportunity to take them. This earthqauke was that opportunity, as we see the U.S. send in it's occupation forces of 13,000 troops versus just a few hundred medical aid workers. They may or may not have used HAARP. Regardless, the opportunity is here and we are exploiting it.

      The shock doctirne says that emergency disasters are used by our government to push through emergency funding for programs that would never fly otherwise. Funding millions of dollars for Haiti and using that funding for 13,000 troops in an occupation would never have worked without the earthquake. It all fits into the agenda so neatly.

      If you can asume for a minute that the U.S. is interested in the occupation of Haiti, that they do have oil and other rich resources, that other countries may have the same interests, and that there is a technology called HAARP that has the ability to set off an earthqauke in any area where a tectonic nudge is all you need to set one off, then it follows that at a minumum the U.S. is exploiting the earthquake situation and at worst actually caused it with HAARP. It really doesn't seem much like a crazy conspiracy theory or science fiction, because it all makes way too much sense.

    • 2 years ago
  • wizardofoz
  • ras_menelik
  • ZeldaMasterZapp
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      ZeldaMasterZapp  
    • Here we go again, I forgot that in my time away from Current that it also had an audience of tin foil hat men, that take any situation and make it into a conspiracy theory. All of these Alex Jones David Icke fans, who take every thing those guys say with a grain of salt.
      None of these theories are around before the incidents and are only made up quickly so that Jones and his cronies can make more money off of paranoid masses who wouldn't know the meaning of looking up "Facts" if they had a ten year college course in looking up "facts".

      All they do is present you with a website that's badly main and just as derivative as the next and present them as facts, they're as bad as Lil Wayne fans who yell "HATER!" every time you deal criticism towards the guys, only thing different is that they yell "YOU'RE BLIND!" Or "The Government has you under it's control!". Conspiracy theorist are some kind of right wing religious nutjobs who sit can't take the weight of the modern world, changing ideals, and new kids coming up so everything is a problem, the government! Secret organizations, and earthquake and weather machines.

      And for the record, I'm not one of the "blind" you guys so aptly name, I know not to trust the government or corporations, at the same time I'm not a coo coo, who thinks everything is a conspiracy either. And if this stuff was so secret, they're doing BAD JOB! Keeping it in, since any internet nutcase can get his/her hands on this info. And if you're so paranoid, stay off of the Governments and corporations internet, since I'm pretty sure you're on some major ISP, that in cahoots with government communication obligations.

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • UWAZell
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      UWAZell  
    • Well if Haiti does in fact have oil let the US dig it up. Hopefully, and I wouldn't hold my breath, they would at least employ some locals and funnel some of that money back into the economy.

      If it does in fact exist, the Haitian government has failed to capitalise on their own resources, for any number of reasons, and I don't have an issue with the yanks for going in there and making use of it... so long as they act civilised... well as civilised as Americans can be.

    • 2 years ago
  • lifestudentno83
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      lifestudentno83  
    • UWAZell:

      Seriously, don't hold your breath on that one.

      Haiti would have industry controlling the action like Shell in parts of Africa controls the flow of oil. And just like there, the locals would only be paid enough to put food in their bellies once a day before returning to work and possibly dying due to the lack of protective gear.

      It's like slavery, only no one is whipping you or cutting your feet off if you run away. New age slavery that makes you feel like you HAVE to do it to make a living.

    • 2 years ago
  • Monkey_Films
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      Monkey_Films  
    • The rest of the governments of the world must know and some must be working together with the U.S. in this empire building. I wouldn't be too surprised if a few of them get smart and team up in order to put an end to our imperialism.

    • 2 years ago
  • Monkey_Films
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      Monkey_Films  
    • Well, that's it, Keith, with what has been show as signs of HAARP use, the other documents that have been presented and now your post there is no doubt we caused this for strategic purposes. We are officially being run by criminal Banksters and mass murderers. Who is next?

    • 2 years ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
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    • http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/economy/2009/5/2/31873/Canadian-company-to-expl...

      Port-au-Prince.– A Montreal-based mining company has announced plans to explore the mountains of north-eastern Haiti for gold and copper.

      Majescor Resources Inc will explore the site in a partnership with Simact Mining Holding Inc, a Long Island, New York-based consortium of Haitian-American investors.

      Majescor President Marc-Andre Bernier said the company is encouraged by explorations that Eurasian Minerals Inc is conducting at a nearby site.

      Gold and copper were found in the Caribbean nation decades ago, but Haiti's instability and lack of infrastructure have discouraged investment. A Barrick Gold Corp site about 130 miles (210 kilometers) southeast in the Dominican Republic is estimated to contain 20.4 million ounces of gold.

    • 2 years ago
  • Monkey_Films
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      Monkey_Films  
    • keithponder:

      Well, wasn't that quick and geez we get to start from scratch and build new infrastructure all the while playing the part of rescuer. All of those donations will end up being used to prepare the corporations for their profit making thus eliminating the need for them to spend their own money doing this. All the regular players, Clinton, Bush, Daddy Bush, Obama and others will make their money while making the banks their money while giving each charity the chance to open up a new improved headquarters and hire more staff all while rebuilding a country we destroyed and then getting it ready for the corporations that paid to get them elected. I love this country, hoo-rah we're the best, three cheers for America (Satire of course). I've got a feeling some of us posters won't be on here too long, they came after some militias and set up the lead Oath Keeper recently. Too many people are starting to see the truth, so now they will try to re-write the truth. Just my guesstimation.

    • 2 years ago
  • keithponder
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      keithponder  
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    • http://open.salon.com/blog/ezili_danto/2009/10/13/oil_in_haiti_-_economic_reason...

      Located in the North-Eastern part of Haiti and abounding with tourist sites, Fort-Liberté is a city where the first declaration of Haiti's independence took place on November 29, 1803. It has one of the most captivating historical sites in the area called Fort Dauphin known today as Fort-Liberté. This fort was built around 1731 under the command of Louis XV, king of France, and its ruins are the greatest evidences of its genius designers who chose the most strategic point to built it in order to fight off upcoming invaders.

      In addition to its architectural charm, it overlooks a splendid bay of turquoise seawater, which sparkles under the bright rays of the tropical sun.

      There is evidence that the United States found oil in Haiti decades ago and due to the geopolitical circumstances and big business interests of that era made the decision to keep Haitian oil in reserve for when Middle Eastern oil had dried up. This is detailed by Dr. Georges Michel in an article dated March 27, 2004 outlining the history of oil explorations and oil reserves in Haiti and in the research of Dr. Ginette and Daniel Mathurin.

      There is also good evidence that these very same big US oil companies and their inter-related monopolies of engineering and defense contractors made plans, decades ago, to use Haiti's deep water ports either for oil refineries or to develop oil tank farm sites or depots where crude oil could be stored and later transferred to small tankers to serve U.S. and Caribbean ports. This is detailed in a paper about the Dunn Plantation at Fort Liberte in Haiti.

      Ezili's HLLN underlines these two papers on Haiti's oil resources and the works of Dr. Ginette and Daniel Mathurin in order to provide a view one will not find in the mainstream media nor anywhere else as to the economic and strategic reasons the US has constructed its fifth largest embassy in the world - fifth only besides the US embassy in China, Iraq, Afghanistan and Germany - in tiny Haiti, post the 2004 Haiti Bush regime change.

      The facts outlined in the Dunn Plantation and Georges Michel papers, considered together, reasonably unveil part of the hidden reasons UN Special Envoy to Haiti, Bill Clinton, is giving the UN occupation a facelift so that its troops stay in Haiti for the duration.

      Ezili's HLLN has consistently maintained, since the beginning of the 2004 Bush regime change in Haiti, that the 2004 US invasion of Haiti used UN troops as its military proxy to avoid the charge of imperialism and racism. We have also consistently maintained that the UN/US invasion and occupation of Haiti is not about protecting Haitian rights, security, stability or long-term domestic development but about returning the Washington Chimeres/[gangsters] - the traditional Haitian Oligarchs - to power, establishing free trade not fair trade, the Chicago-boys' death plan, neoliberal policies, keeping the minimum wage at slave wage levels, plundering Haiti's natural resources and riches, not to mention using the location benefit that Haiti lies between Cuba and Venezuela. Two countries the US has unsuccessfuly orchestrated regime changes in and continues to pursue. In the Dunn Plantation and Georges Michel papers, we find and deploy further details as to why the US is in Haiti with this attempted Bill Clinton facelift to the UN's continued occupations.

    • 2 years ago
  • keithponder
  • merkin78
  • Monkey_Films
  • UWAZell
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      UWAZell  
    • Monkey_Films:

      Every time I see a commet like this I have to assume that if you don't own any property because if you do you've undoubtedly turned it over to the Native Americans as they are the true owners.

      Rubbish.

    • 2 years ago
  • Monkey_Films
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      Monkey_Films  
    • Why do Americans assume that adding cable television, Wal-Mart, and lots of plastic crap to a third world country is good for the people. There are many ways that they are much happier than those of us with unending greed.

    • 2 years ago
  • treewolf39
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      treewolf39  
    • Just like all the inner city projects. Poor don't get assimilated, they get ignored and if they bitch, they get persecuted. Oh, and if they get represented Their representation get perverted. How about the way we assimilated the Native American.

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
  • existentialist
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      existentialist  
    • Isn't this a great opportunity for the Americanization of Haiti? Could the USA use this terrible tragedy to bring wealth to Haiti and change the poorest western-hemisphere country into a wealthy US territory? If done correctly wouldn't the people of Haiti benefit from assimilation into the United States empire?

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • Wetdog
  • UWAZell
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      UWAZell  
    • existentialist:

      I'm inclined to agree with you. That country is, for lack of a better phrase, in the toilet and if there is in fact oil, the US should dig it up. Sounds harsh but they obviously didn't have their act together enough to capitalise on their alleged resources. Mind you, I doubt the resources exists or else the US would have been in there a long time ago. I mean honestly, do we believe Bush would have let all of that 'Black Gold' sit there untapped.

    • 2 years ago
  • Lurkistan
  • randallr01
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      randallr01  
    • Before people started to say things like this (some of my friends yesterday mentioned that soon the US "will own Haiti" and that it's "basically an invasion"), I was wondering what was so special about Haiti.

      Of course the devastation is vast, and of course they need our help, but I've noticed a strange obsession with Haiti versus any other catastrophe.

      Geopolitically, Haiti is in a perfect spot..... next to none other than Cuba. I suppose Haiti is our latest outpost.

    • 2 years ago
  • Monkey_Films
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      Monkey_Films  
    • You won't look quite so silly if you do some googling before posting and calling something ridiculous. Haiti has more oil than Venezuela and many more resources. The evidence has been posted here and on Chavez says U.S. caused earthquake.

    • 2 years ago
  • Lurkistan
  • fhavenger09
  • itoldyouso
  • JonRaymond
  • trut
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      trut  
    • How long before the new US military base in Haiti is set up? Are we going to see "terrorists" popping up in Haiti now?

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • peterzylstramoore
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      peterzylstramoore  
    • A lot of people have failed to connect the neoliberal policies of no restrictions on foreign ownership of resources, small government, etc to when they were forced on developing countries. After the OPEC countries raised oil prices developed countries realized how dependent they were on the rest of the world for resources and have forced these policies on countries to encourage foreign ownership and control of resources. These policies have been devastating for countries like Haiti but also many other countries as well.

    • 2 years ago
  • Wetdog
  • Monkey_Films
  • OrbViper
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      OrbViper  
    • I'm pretty sure there's going to be quite a bit of uproar is US soldiers start digging for oil any time soon...I don't really think this is why they're there...

    • 2 years ago
  • JonRaymond
  • Wetdog
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      Wetdog  
    • OrbViper:

      Take a look, here is the REAL purpose of the war in Agahnistan-----to build an control a pipeline that will assure strategic control over oil reserves in Central Asia.

      It is all laid out in testimony before the:

      U.S. INTERESTS IN THE CENTRAL ASIAN REPUBLICS

      HEARING

      BEFORE THE

      SUBCOMMITTEE ON
      ASIA AND THE PACIFIC

      OF THE

      COMMITTEE ON
      INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS
      HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

      ONE HUNDRED FIFTH CONGRESS

      SECOND SESSION

      FEBRUARY 12, 1998

      by John Merasca, VP international relations for UNOCAL. And this was being planned over 3 years before the attack on the WTC in 2001.

      http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/hfa48119.000/hfa48119_0f.htm

      (transcript of proceedings)

      -----------"The second option is to build a pipeline south from Central Asia to the Indian Ocean. One obvious route south would cross Iran, but this is foreclosed for American companies because of U.S. sanctions legislation. The only other possible route is across Afghanistan, which has of course its own unique challenges. The country has been involved in bitter warfare for almost two decades, and is still divided by civil war. From the outset, we have made it clear that construction of the pipeline we have proposed across Afghanistan could not begin until a recognized government is in place that has the confidence of governments, lenders, and our company."-------------

      So, are you wondering why the US can't seem to be able to get out of Afgahnistan?
      Because they have NO intention of leaving, that is why. We are there for oil.

    • 2 years ago
  • OrbViper
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      OrbViper  
    • OrbViper:

      Couldn't have they just allied with the Taliban, I mean, the Taliban have the US to thank for being there, and they get on with other fundamentalist regimes such as the Saudi's, they probably could've...

    • 2 years ago
  • Wetdog
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      Wetdog  
    • OrbViper:

      Astute observation Orbviper----just one hitch though. The Taliban have a heavy reliance on a religious power base. The Suadis are a hereditary monarchy. The monarchy can sell out their subjects for economic gain---and there is nothing the common people can do about it. If the Taliban compromise the religious tenets and the good of the common people however---they lose the support of the common people. This is clearly evident in the Karzai government. Why do you think that after almost ten years of invasion and occupation by the most powerful military in the world, and the earmarking of enough US taxpayer funds to give every inhabitant of Afghanistan about $4.5 million it STILL remains one of the poorest countries on earth, and the Karzai government is completely ineffectual, even at conducting a rigged election to give itself at least the appearence of ligitimacy. The one thing that is basically true of ANY guerrila war anywhere----without the help and support of the common people, it will fail. There is nowhere for guerillas to hide or get support otherwise. That is how you can know with confidence that no matter WHAT you are told in the media propaganda blitz, this is a war that is fueled by coporate greed to funnel and contriol money away from the ordinary people of Afghanistan and into coporate balance ledgers.

    • 2 years ago
  • OrbViper
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      OrbViper  
    • OrbViper:

      Hmm, yeah, there are quite large differences I guess, I'm not too sure overall. I get the feeling we're never going to get the real truth apart from everyone who really cares is dead and this is just another footnote in history...pity.

    • 2 years ago
  • adveritas
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      adveritas  
    • And our aid embargo against Haiti (in the past) would make a lot more sense then, since we would probably already be drilling if they let us have our way with their leaders. Inhumane.

    • 2 years ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Two words: Peak Oil. It will be a race between China, Russia, and the US to find it all and suck it up, all while telling us that we have to wean ourselves off foreign oil to save our planet and protect our national security. The TAPI pipeline in Afghanistan should be on track now that it is 2010. I suppose those being pulled from Iraq will be placed there to protect it's construction as well.

    • 2 years ago
  • lifestudentno83
  • treewolf39
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