Thanks, Ron Paul fans, for the memories...
By Leslie Hart / current.com

UPDATE, May 15: Ron Paul announced a new chapter of his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination in an email to supporters on Monday, stating that he will no longer invest money in the remaining primary battles but will continue to fight for delegates to represent his platform at the 2012 Republican National Convention in Tampa, Fla. On Tuesday, Jesse Benton, Paul’s chief strategist, acknowledged Paul lacks the momentum to wrest the nomination from Mitt Romney but clarified that Dr. Paul is not “dropping out” of the race and reiterated Paul’s intention for his “campaign for Liberty” to maintain a presence at the state convention level.
An adviser to Ron Paul has hinted that the “delegate strategy” could be designed to help pave the way for a potential successor to carry the mantle of Ron Paul’s platform in 2016 — his son, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.).
Regardless of the reasons, the strategy or the plans for the future, what we'll miss most are those ardent and creatively expressive Paul fans. See some of our favorites below.
1) Buzz cut

Justin Roy, 22, showed he thinks Ron Paul is a cut above the other candidates with his style statement. It may be a good thing he didn't choose a more permanent option given the state of the race, though "Mitt Romney" might need more scalp space ...
2) Skateboard

Although Ron Paul has not managed to coast to victory in the race for the Republican nomination, fan Mark Lafferty commemorates Paul's effort with a custom skateboard. Lafferty brought the elaborate board to an event celebrating Filipino veterans at the Leatherneck Club on Feb. 3, 2012, in Las Vegas. Dr. Paul will be good to go once he's added a set of wheels.
3) Raise an arm for Ron Paul

A supporter of Ron Paul brandishes her war paint in opposition as Rick Santorum speaks during a campaign stop on March 2, 2012 in Chillicothe, Ohio.
4) Ron Paul to the rescue?

A young Ron Paul fan shows that he believes in the power of the Libertarian candidate by improvising a "REVOLUTION" superhero outfit at the Iowa State Fairgrounds on December 28, 2011 in Des Moines.
5) Fan art

Ron Paul supporter Allie Dennis, 16, may not yet be able to cast a vote, but she has drawn on her artistic talent to express enthusiasm for the Libertarian candidate, sharing a tribute in charcoal at a New Hampshire campaign event on Jan. 8, 2012.
6) Ron Paul patriot

A Ron Paul fan repurposes a 2008 campaign poster designed by Leah Tiscione, changing the year and adding a quote from Luke 17:2, as she stakes out a position near the Webster Elementary School polling place on Jan. 10, 2012 in Manchester, N.H.
7) Coordinated quartet

This quartet of Ron Paul fans at a Jan. 2, 2012, event in Cedar Falls, Iowa, has an aptitude for coordination (as evidenced by their T-shirts), but one wonders which issues brought them together in this show of solidarity? Regardless, they demonstrate that support for Ron Paul transcends generations.
8) Fashion statement

Ron Paul supporters (a fashion-forward family, perhaps?) demonstrate their sartorial flair with themed frocks and red, white and blue accessories as they listen to their candidate of choice speak prior to the Iowa Straw Poll on Aug. 13, 2011 in Ames, Iowa.
9) Sedan slogan

Ron Paul supporters go beyond a bumper sticker to express their support for Ron Paul by painting the following slogan on the rear window of a black sedan: "If I were to remain silent, I'd be guilty of complicity. Ron Paul 2012." Based on the other vehicle flair, these Las Vegas fans also love to shop, have a dog and support Brazil. Oh — and they might own a gun, as this car was parked outside a "Gun Owners for Ron Paul" event on Feb. 3, 2012, in Las Vegas.
10) Leading the charge

Donna Meichtry shows she's ready to lead the charge for Ron Paul following the "Gun Owners for Ron Paul" event in Las Vegas on Feb. 3, 2012. Whether she would be able to fend off gunfire as armed with makeshift shield and mallet is another question.
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Dr. Paul is not dropping out of the race, he is simply going to concentrate on getting delegates, which is what gets you the nomination in Tampa. I mean at this point we are trying to get enough delegates to FORCE a Brokered convention.
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Haters gonna hate. RON PAUL 2012!
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MMMMMchicken:
Dr. Paul believes that we should make our Haters our MOTIVATORS!
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Racism still alive as evidenced below by the anti-RON PAUL unimatriz0 who is probably a ROMNEY supporter because RON PAUL and his followers would have nothing to do with KKK or racism. Ron Paul main following is the youth who are not racist. ROMNEY has the support of the very elderly on land line phones which the deep south very elderly are more racist. One of the elderly must have caught on to the internet and posted their true sentiment.
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Jill_Winters:
what a sterio type you are!!!
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Ron Paul and supporters show off their "flair"
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unimatrix0:
So this filth gets to stay, but all of the comments on it gotta go? Shame on you, moderators. And here I was so proud of you for finally getting rid of that other post by this same troll. Disgusting.
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unimatrix0:
A high school classmate of presidential candidate Mitt Romney told ABC News today that he considers a particular prank pulled at Michigan's Cranbrook school to be "assault and battery" and that he witnessed Romney hold the scissors to cut the hair of a student who was being physically pinned to the ground by several others.
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TyroneWilliams:
A high school classmate of presidential candidate Mitt Romney told ABC News today that he considers a particular prank pulled at Michigan's Cranbrook school to be "assault and battery" and that he witnessed Romney hold the scissors to cut the hair of a student who was being physically pinned to the ground by several others.
"It's a haunting memory. I think it was for everybody that spoke up about it… because when you see somebody who is simply different taken down that way and is terrified and you see that look in their eye you never forget it - 1 year ago
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unimatrix0:
troll
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OK State Republican Convention this weekend! I wonder, will they try to keep us out, or will they try the Maine GOP's tactic of printing fake Paul slates? Who knows? Maybe they'll get creative and come up with some completely new form of fraud! Stay tuned; this should be interesting...
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HeatherOK:
Good luck! It was pretty bad here in Louisiana, but we still did it!
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Is Ron Paul a racist?
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unimatrix0:
Finally, something factual out of you! Of COURSE that's why they endorse him, and it's the same reason everyone else has who supports Ron Paul.
The point of freedom is not to protect viewpoints we all love; it's to make sure EVERYONE gets to speak their minds, no matter how repugnant the contents, unless/until they actually harm someone. Hence the fact that your continued presence, characterized only by slanderous filth, is nonetheless tolerated. This is what I meant when I said that we're fighting for YOUR rights, too. You're welcome!
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unimatrix0:
NO BUT YOU ARE!!
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unimatrix0:
A high school classmate of presidential candidate Mitt Romney told ABC News today that he considers a particular prank pulled at Michigan's Cranbrook school to be "assault and battery" and that he witnessed Romney hold the scissors to cut the hair of a student who was being physically pinned to the ground by several others.
"It's a haunting memory. I think it was for everybody that spoke up about it… because when you see somebody who is simply different taken down that way and is terrified and you see that look in their eye you never forget it - 1 year ago
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Paul has delegate majorities in Maine and Nevada now, too. =D
"First, they ignore you,
then they laugh at you,
then they fight you,
then you WIN." - Mahatma GhandiWe're at step 3 now...
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Ron Paul 2012!
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thought you might like this...
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unimatrix0:
Been there, seen that, long ago. It's still bullshit. Ron Paul doesn't endorse these people anymore than he endorses me personally. Celebrities have wacko fans, too. Slightly less disgusting than the rest of your posts, but not by much.
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unimatrix0:
You are not a RON PAUL fan you are an alias trying to discredit his wonderful example in life. HMMM someone else had people persecute him for his name's sake and spread lies!!
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If Ron Paul is unable to stop Romney from getting the Presidential nomination; Ron Paul will have an excellent shot at getting the Vice Presidential nomination. The delegates elect the Vice Presidential nominee the same way they elect the Presidential nominee but all the delegates are unbound. Its a myth that the Presidential nominee simply gets to decide who the Vice Presidential nominee will be, The GOP will only get my vote if Ron Paul's name is on the ballot: Either Ron Paul/? or ?/Ron Paul
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BornAgainAgnostic:
Actually, most Paul supporters know there's no way in hell Paul would ever run with Romney. So would anyone who's ever heard him asked about it.
Then there's the fact that the RNC is breaking their own rules by coordinating with Romney--publically, no attempt to hide it--before he is the nominee or running unopposed. Basically, Romney is now disqualified from nomination. That's not to say it will be easy to hold them to it, but it's true.
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He attracts idealists, not that there is anything wrong with that.
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unimatrix0:
I think you're wrong on that. I'm pretty sure he's a Southern Baptist--who accept the Nicene Creed even though they're into snake handling and all kinds of other weird stuff.
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unimatrix0:
You are a but hes a republican. Go figure.
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unimatrix0:
You just can't stop posting incendiary b.s., can you? Disgusting. Ignorant. Slanderous. You ought to be ashamed, but somehow I don't think you're capable. That goes for the "people" who voted it up, too.
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jeffreyak:
Think you're missing at least one word there, Jeff. "You are a..." what?
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If the news media would stop saying things like "His efforts are unlikely to thwart Romney’s claim on the nomination", you know, little negative plugs like that to try and influence people's vote and start actually covering his rallies like real news reporters, he would get the recognition and probably win this thing in a landside victory the likes we've never seen before. But instead, you do what you're told by the people that would be affected by a Paul presidency. Only thing is, it isn't working. The revolution is on and there's no stopping it. You just keep lying to us cause sooner or later, you're going to become just as irrelevant as Congress is under an Obama presidency. Go on now, keep lying. We're not listening..
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ghendric:
Right on!
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ThresholdBroken:
trying to get a peek at the event
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Libertarianism is popular among Klan members. Everyone at the KKK's national conference happened to be Ron Paul supporters.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-8-most-interesting-things-from-gawke...
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unimatrix0:
Yeah, and the article you linked also said that amounts to less than 80 people. You cannot assume something about millions based on a group of 80 people. Give it up, already. Your inductive fallacies are getting tiresome.
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unimatrix0:
You are just making shit up now.
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unimatrix0:
You got your fair share of wackos in Romney and Obama's camps, too. Doesn't mean Romney wants to bomb clinics or Obama wants to spike trees. Stop trying to play on people's fears like Obama and Bush. The Klan is something to laugh at and spit on these days...you sure you ain't a member?
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........ Wow they do have "flair", and way to damn much money to blow on looking likes the Douches of well, wherever they're from... At least it's not the cast of the Jersey Shore....
....... "Romney won less than half of his 27 chosen delegates in his home state".....
I mean does anyone really think the rest of the states are that behind Romney?
No, Ron Paul is wealthy and has done well for himself, he isn't 2 vehicle elevators rich.... In fact he still lives pretty damn modestly for having the kind of money that he has.
I know, but Obama is/was poor, spending portions of his childhood in just about every country, "summering" with his grandma and grandpa in Hawaii.... No Obama is quite rich anyway you slice it, maybe not exactly so growing up, or earlier on in adulthood, but he'll draw about 75% of what Bill Clinton draws from a post office speech, and he likes to talk so....
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EngineeredObsolescence:
Something else that should be noted: most of Ron Paul's events are free to attend, and the ones that cost money (fundraisers) cost a few hundred dollars, as opposed to Obama and Romney charging up to $150,000!
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HeatherOK:
That is simply untrue.
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jeffreyak:
I couldn't remember where I'd seen that info, so I searched until my eyes burned, but the most I could find being charged by Obamney was about $40,000. A good deal less than $150,000, but also a good deal more than the $500 Ron Paul is charging ($1,000 if you eat dinner). That's still, at best, 40X as much. So yes, the $150,000 number appears to be wrong, but the point still stands.
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HeatherOK:
The point does not stand because the charges are for a completely different type of event. Not rallies.
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jeffreyak:
The point does stand, because I'm comparing fundraising dinners to fundraising dinners. The rallies are, of course, free. That is, if you can get in. I suggest getting there very early.
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Yeah, libertarianism is dead. Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure. LMFAO!!!
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HeatherOK:
It never lived except in the mind of economic extremists.
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RedStateRefugee:
Then why is the libertarian the only one drawing huge crowds every single time he speaks? Face it, this idea's time has come, and no army, government, nor flippant comments on a message board can stop it. Romney gets crickets, Obama gets booed, Paul gets legions. Not hard to see what that means...outside the bubble, that is.
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Going back to the gold standard... How much gold would one dollar be worth? How many dollars are there in the world? How much gold does the US possess? Think about it, the gold standard is an impossible utopia. Ron Paul lives in La-la-land and is totally divorced from reality.
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Vierotchka:
One of the things that draws me to Ron Paul is that he hits the nail on the head 9/10 times in identifying real problems within our economic and political structures. The role and policies of the Federal Reserve is one of them. I don't agree with Ron that going back to a 100% gold standard is the best solution but I do like his idea of allowing a competitive currency to expose the weaknesses of our current monetary system and the fraudulent fractional reserve banking system used. These types of issues are only being challenged by Ron Paul on the national stage and they need to be. I don't agree with all of his solutions he suggests but like I said, I treat choosing a candidate like prescribing a medicine to an illness. Right now that illness is the plutarchy and I want them to be challenged and exposed. We the People can work out the solutions amongst ourselves once integrity is restored to our three branches of government. We are not electing a king who will shape the USA as he sees fit in choosing a president - even though the establishment would like most politically engaged people to feel that way.
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Vierotchka:
Let's take your questions one at a time, shall we?
One ounce of gold is currently worth over $1600. That makes one dollar worth a super-tiny fraction of an ounce of gold. This is because the dollar has lost so much of its value due to overproduction. Gee, that's kind of the whole crux of Paul's argument, huh?
No one knows exactly how many dollars are out there, nor how much gold we actually possess. This is another thing Paul is fighting for, our right to simply know these things! What in the world does anyone have against transparency in these matters?? Don't you think we have a right to know?
As JR says, Paul does not intend to suddenly burn all the fiat dollars and make us use gold for everything. This is yet another attempt to paint Paul as some kind of wacko by people who are scared, either of change or of honesty. You would appear to be the latter, but I implore you to prove me wrong by educating yourself and opening your mind to ideas you may not agree with fully. From your posts about Ayn Rand, it seems like you don't think it possible to find value in anything you don't agree with completely, but I promise you, you are mistaken.
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Vierotchka:
You obviously do not understand the gold standard.
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jeffreyak:
LOL! Speak for yourself!
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He's not speaking for anyone, merely making an observation about what you said, which is that it belies ignorance on the subject of the gold standard. Which is quite obviously true, but that's not necessarily a slam. You asked questions; that's what we should all do when we don't understand something.
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Only the truly intelligent have not been fooled and taken-in by Ron Paul.
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Vierotchka:
Comments like these serve absolutely no purpose in furthering discourse. I could sit here and defend myself against your gross generalization with my multiple degrees but that would do nothing to further the discussion. This type of discourse is so very toxic to democracy and the free exchange of ideas.
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Agreed, and you needn't bother. This person is not here to make reasoned arguments, nor to offer evidence of anything. All he/she does is post baseless, incendiary, condescending remarks like this. It's sad, really.
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Vierotchka:
You are far from intelligent.
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LOL! What could you possibly know about intelligence? You obviously do not possess the wherewithal with which to recognize intelligence.
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DeyCmeTr011ingNh8N:
Ouch. I share your opinion of Uni, but please don't sink to his/her level like this. It gives people like that so much satisfaction, and we need to be the better than that. Again, I sympathize, but this is not the way to go. Please come back with more reasoned posts; we need all the help we can get!
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LIAR...
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Ron Paul's true philosophy
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Vierotchka:
While Ron Paul was indeed inspired in part by Atlas Shrugged, he has on numerous occasions, explained that he does not agree with Ayn Rand entirely and has pointed out several ways in which the two of them would not see eye to eye. Picking a candidate should be like diagnosing a problem and prescribing the best medicine available at the time. That is why I support Ron and all of the other candidates like Rocky Anderson and Buddy Rhoemer who stand against the status-quo. The current ruling elite and the system they have installed, make no mistake about it, is this country's most threatening disease.
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You couldn't be further from the truth.
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Vierotchka:
In that very video he mentions that he and Ayn Rand would not see eye to eye on everything...
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He still worships her.
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Vierotchka:
Lemme get this straight: you post an insulting and juvenile picture with nothing to back it up, then when someone tells you that Ron Paul does not agree with Ayn Rand on everything, you post a video that backs that up. Then, when it's pointed out that you just made an argument against yourself, you simply say the equivalent of, "Yeah, but I'm still right." Once again, nothing to back it up. Sorry, but I don't see how anyone can take you seriously at this point.
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Vierotchka:
Are you blind and deaf?
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Hehe, then why does Paul consistently draw crowds of thousands? Why is he now guaranteed a spot on the Republican ballot in Tampa after winning five delegate pluralities, and it's barely May? Why, in a state like Oklahoma, a bastion of neo-con support, did Paul win the majority of delegates not assigned by the GOP establishment? Time to pop your bubble and peek out--there's a revolution going on!
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Because he has pretended to be for the legalization of drugs and against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan - the operative word here is "pretended".
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What a ridiculous thing to say. People in both parties disagree with Paul on so much, but the one thing they ALL agree on is his integrity. Some admire it, some use it to bash him, but no one can deny it, because the record is there. Why do that to yourself, why say something so obviously false? Between statements like this and the stupid pics, you really just seem to be trolling here. The only reason I respond anymore is just in case someone is dumb/distracted/eager enough to believe your horseshit, I want to make sure the truth is right there for them to see.
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Vierotchka:
Ron "Mr. President" Paul, that's who!!!
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I love times like these..when I realize that mainstream liberals are just as blind to the root of the problems that permeate throughout the two-headed beast of D.C. and the plutocrats that they willfully ignore simple facts like the one that Dr. Paul has no intention of making those most dependent on our social safety nets (which I support in theory but know need fixing) at risk via cuts. It's just as bad as the mainstream conservatives who clamor for cuts but then gawk at the idea of cutting back the Military Industrial Complex. As an Independent with no party loyalty and who finds the political party types to be quite..sheepish...I love the irony of a candidate as honest as Ron Paul is about his political principles having a platform where so much common ground can be found across the political spectrum while the self-appointed guardians of the status-quo are relegated to denials of the reality of the socioeconomic paradigm in their critiques of him.
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A sad and pathetic zombie cult of white supremacists, conspiracy theorists, Bible thumpers and other assorted, deluded, idiots.
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HeatherOK:
Why do you support a Bible thumping, white supremacist? And why would you refer to people who support a white supremacist as being "good"?
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unimatrix0:
They're talking to you...
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JRBarilla:
Thank you! You know what you can do with your baseless slander, Uni. Educate yourself.
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HeatherOK:
Total crap
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Consider what you stand for by supporting Paul.
http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/national-defense/
With the above link, Paul insists we've done horribly regarding all facets of Military around the world. This can't be based upon fact, he can't possibly have accurate analysis if all the goings on. This is too broad and sweeping a generalization to be taken seriously. Part of my disagreement is the issue plays on the South's border fears. Propagandizing fear is a telling feature of unjustifiable answers to complicated issues.
http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/taxes/
Intriguing and superficial. There is no way a repeal will occur. One logical reason, and one to consider, is wanting smaller government and getting it via eliminating the IRS wont give the desired result. More agencies will be needed to handle the shift to fees upon goods, services and all properties. Very likely the people running the IRS will shift to new positions controlling the expansion and modified systems. Imagine the cost of switching to anything new. Revisions of the current system could be obtainable, and taxing the ultra rich back to Reagan levels is a great start!!!
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ricknelsonmn
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HeatherOK
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ricknelsonmn:
This is more what I was looking for. Not snarky one-liners, not baseless insults, a real argument. Thank you.
That said, your response to the video is a little confusing. When you say Paul's position "can't be based on fact" because he cannot know everything about every aspect of military operations, I can't get behind that. He knows a hell of a lot more about it than you or I; that much is incontrovertible, unless you have ever served on the House Committee on Foreign Affairs or the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations therein. All of what he says about blowback is from CIA experts, never mind the common sense inherent in recognizing the galvanizing effect foreign invaders have on a population.
Also, that video contained a lot more than sweeping generalizations; there were several specific examples discussed. Did you watch the whole thing? As to the last point you made, it seems completely unrelated. There was zero mention of our southern border in that video, another indication that you did not watch the whole thing. You did, however, echo what Paul said in the video with your last statement: "Propagandizing fear is a telling feature of unjustifiable answers to complicated issues." I absolutely agree with you there, and that is exactly what our leaders have been doing with all these illegal wars. They inundate us with fear-mongering propaganda until we give in, get scared, and let them bomb. Disgraceful, I agree, and it will not stop until we elect someone who actually WANTS to stop it. Obamney does not qualify in the slightest.
On the subject of these drastic things Paul wants to do, such as ending the Fed and IRS and cutting agencies, he has said many times that he does not expect to do that overnight, that the people who need help the most--especially veterans, who have gotten the shaft from these creeps who send them off to fight then ignore them when they come home--will be off-limits for cuts. You make a very good point about the IRS and its employees; I have often wondered about what would happen to all those people and their families. And yes, if I hear one more rich person whining about the people who don't pay any taxes because they're too poor in a shameful attempt to deflect their reponsibility, I will throw something out my window.
So you see, Rick, once you explain yourself a little better and refrain from the childishness, we're not so different after all, even if we disagree on some stuff. I hope this level of discourse will continue so that we can better understand one another. I find this so much more constructive than flame-wars. Thank you again, really. Also, I would like to apologize for responding in kind. I was tired and irritable, but that is no excuse. Please forgive me.
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HeatherOK
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unimatrix0:
This post is STILL a sad and pathetic attempt to make good people fighting for your rights look like monsters in a movie, followed by crap you made up. Maybe I shouldn't have said the part that followed, but it's still true. This is juvenile garbage, and you should be ashamed.
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HeatherOK
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ricknelsonmn
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HeatherOK:
The videos were irrelevant to my posts Heather. I read the link at the Paul web site. As and example: I followed the title "Taxes" on the main page, the first was Military. Then I read the material on that page. Time is a factor. I've responded to the material written, and within it you will find a reference to our southern borders.
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ricknelsonmn
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unimatrix0:
Im not a white supremacist, and I think the bible is a story book for entertainment But, I may fall under the conspiracy theorists category.
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HeatherOK
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ricknelsonmn:
Well okay, I wasn't saying that he NEVER mentioned our southern border. And the idea is to make legal immigration less of an ordeal while simultaneously making our border better controlled. That way, we aren't just giving people who want to live here the proverbial finger, but we're also not turning our backs on flagrant disobedience of the law.
As for the taxes, as I said above, revisions of the current system is where it will start. He knows he can't just *snap* end the income tax, and he's said so on numerous occasions.
I promise, I'm only asking out of confusion, not being flippant: if the video is irrelevant to your post, why did you include it? You claim a time crunch; why then, would you take extra time to find and link a video that doesn't matter?
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HeatherOK
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unimatrix0:
Seriously?? I grew up in the deep south when there was KKK in my entire neighborhood and I am telling you that the good deeds of RON PAUL put his life at risk. I am referring to the numerous black babies he delivered pro-bono during a time when my own family almost got our house burned down by the KKK for having black friends over for dinner. Numerous black people have defended his good honor and were in tears telling the story about how he delivered their babies when no other doctor would. I am IRATE with the evil lies some of you spead! BTW....if anything KKK HATES RON PAUL because he believes in equality which would free a lot of the blacks that are in prison for marijauna or other unjust crimes. Seriously YOU must be KKK and a REPUBLICAN that supports ROMNEY because THEY are the ones that are into the KKK and that crap!!
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Jill_Winters
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Jill_Winters:
Hell yeah! This lady is telling it like it is! Here's some video:
http://ronpaulflix.com/2011/12/revolution-pac-tv-ad-the-compassion-of-dr-ron-pau...
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TyroneWilliams:
This wasn't my first time watching this, I cry everytime I see this because I know the persecution WE suffered during those days for crossing over the lines and supporting our fellow black man. RON PAUL is from Texas too and I know the KKK used to be a force to taken seriously. Thank God those days are over! We won the fight and those monstrous people we will never let rise again! I am so angry that anyone would put those images up! They used to bully us all trying to make us live an UNCHRISTIAN like life. I still can't get over how they could be anyone....your neighbor, teacher, boss...they were everywhere! I LOVE RON PAUL! He is a true libertarian. But we need to take this a step further...there are blacks who have been arrested and are sitting in prison for unjust reasons. I voted for our current president and I have no regrets, but I would love to see RON PAUL free all of us again from not only prison, but a slavery which we are all going to be facing if we don't consider the debt we are occurring. They give the poor a $1.00 and the rich $1,000. and they think we should all be happy.
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Jill_Winters
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Jill_Winters
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unimatrix0:
MORMONS or should I say ROMNEY is more apt to be KKK! Do your research and get off your racists propaganda. My guess is you are some old biddy from the south former member of KKK and current ROMNEY supporter trying to keep a man from helping to free the blacks. I KNOW YOUR TYPE!
- 1 year ago
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Jill_Winters