IS THIS RACIST, OR HAS RACISM CHANGED?

but the kicker is, even as it is all just shock humor it admits it is racist.thanks to shini bastard, he relized his grandma was racist lol

wouldnt that be a bitch if we got to heaven and god said, sho is nice to see ya.

hey i know nothing of the plight of the apalachians, but billy ray and miley cyrus seem to be campaigning towards a common understanding, and they are self described hillbillies.

was hillbilly jim offensive? i think not.

LMAO

I love being a hillbilly... It comes with an independance and a sense of pride that many equate with being American. True we are not what most would call an educated lot but our balance of duty and boundry is dead on. Come visit the hills of EastTennessee...Many who do never leave.

as a jew, the south is a sketchy area for me so ill appreciate it from a safe distance.
i think hillbillies are awesome though.im envious in a way actualy

All of this racial talk Has gotten me thinking about The Royal Tenenbaums...

The scene where Gene Hackman calls Danny Glover a "Cold Tray";
WTF is "Cold Tray"?
Is that a racial slur?
Is it just an insult?
And why the F*&K can I not find the answer through Google?

i dont recall that particular part, but i always watch that flick in an altered state cuz it is so surreal anyway.
but i do recall dny glover being black being a point of mention in creating the negativity of gene hackmans royal.
his abandonment of family, selfish behavior,compulsive lying and subtle racist arrogance.but i dont recall that part in particular.

It's just always bugged me that I have no idea what the hell a "cold tray" is, and I've never meet anyone who does.

..wow...my OCD has gone into overdrive now, trying to sort that out as well...if you happen to solve it, let me know V...Eden...(thanks)...

it wouldnt make sense as the rest of the movie was way smarter than this but it could just be a rediculously corney attempt at reversing the "hot dish" coloquialism.
danny glover isnt a hot dish, he is a cold tray.
but who knows

you do realize you just decried an institution of racism, by using racism.
the jews dont own hollywood or any media any more than christians or whomever.but please go on about how our prejudgements are fucked.
not like claiming the jews were in charge of collective thought via media ever resulted in a genocide or anything.

i am curious though as to the examples of racism that are prevolent today. and as a white male i have to reach to see them as i am not the direct recipient of it.
i do think hollywood is obsessed with the anglo, but minority representation is on par with minority standing, unless asian pacific people are here in major numbers that im not aware of.

Hi Freecrack, don't call Jewish people, Jews :-)

ummmmm it is who we are.we are jews.we have been jews for 6 thousand years.it is our identity.
christian people are christians
jewish people are jews

i know right... freecrack is a jew hater... don't know why! =P

Exactly...kinda confused here, tho...Jewish people are not Jews now isn't that racist mayb not if a Jewish person is calling them-self a Jew? Teach, help me understand. Is Freecrack a Jewish person? :-)

no, freecrack is a mutt, he's part Indian, part Black, Part Latino... hell even part White... but Jewish? i don't know.. i don't think so..

lol yes.
ksirys is having a lil fun with ya.
my entire focus on current is based in judaism, and fighting antisemitism.my jewness defines me on here.
the only slur we have is kikes, and that has gone the way of the dinosaur.some people are bothered by various other words, but usualy they arent jewish but speaking on our behalf.hell ever read heeb magazine wich is written by and produced by jews.despite that being the case current kills comments that use "heeb".
kike, shini, and shylock are the ones that were used in america as racial slurs, but are no longer an issue as anyone who says it defeats themselves with out any commentary from a jew.

jew is not a racial slur, it is our description of who we are.
"peace with the palastinians will only come once they love thier children more than they hate jews"-golda mier, prime minister of israel once upon a time.

jews is an important distinction to seperate the culture of our religion from the citizenry of israel.while the sephardim are robe wearing humus loving folk, while ashkenazim were suit wearing bagel eaters, the link that binds us is being jews.

jew is a word of great pride to me, not hatefull at all

you are a funny fucker

ok i went over the top.
simply calling a member of christianity a christian isnt a slur unless you make it so, a member of islam is a muslum isnt a slur, nor is calling a jewish person a jew.
the hate speech exists soley in the mind of the person speaking.
the christian thing to do, is often used as a posotive, while christian family values are used to describe an ill in liberal circles.
in itself it is benigne

lol... not me... i'm a yes man! =P

nice callback, literaly lol
you are on point today

wow i didnt even see that one.it is a reach but kinda true

after about 5 minutes of awe inspired thought i did approach who i believe was the shift manager about it.she shot back with a defense with out even giving the notion thought, wich further solidified my theory.
if it was an oversite, i imagine she would have read it and at least said hmmmmm.the fact that she shot back right off the bat made me feel like this is a conversation she has had before.

she used the old, i have a black guy who says otherwise retort, wich may be true, but is also a standard fallback when accused of racism.so who knows.
i just know im dont spending money there

thats where im stuck.
is it that the racism of old has been so successfully killed, that this no longer qualifies?
if so has a new racism taken the place of this that we arent seeing cuz we are looking at the racist strategy employed yesterday and not today?
or have we found a racism balance that we find socialy tolerable? like the n word is a no no, but watermelon and fried chicken associations are ok.
or am i just crazy?

dont get me wrong, that end result of racism being abolished is a shared goal.but that strategy of letting it go, is literaly a method of ignorance.the present tense act of ignoring information,ignorance.

my concern in this regard isnt directly personal, like pearl harbor is to my grandparents, but civil concern for us as a society.
europe ignored antisemitism for almost two thousand years wich allowed it to not go away, but flourish unchecked.we all know how that culminated, and i dont care to be part of a history that does the same mistake.

why teach our kids anything until it directly presents itself in thier life by your method?its not like discussing that sort of thing couldnt result places certain races arent welcome or anything.
it is called learning from our mistakes, as well as being part of a larger picture wich is the constant experiment free speech is, wich if sucessfull will earn us the ability to know how to use speach in lue of violence in conflict resolution.

if nothing else it is the most basic of civil responsabilities as a citizen of the united states of america, to partake in the active experiment that a free society is and isnt.it is the least a person can do to earn what they were given.

um the plague is a staple in scare tactic news reporting.from aids,to sars, to h1n1 just recently.it is also the basis for our excessive compulsion towards being a hyper hygenic society.plague is the primary reason people recognize rodent infestation is a threat to healthy existance.we reference the plague regularly in our culture as a lesson.

as far as invading russia goes, that was headline news from about 1945 to 1995.cold war ring a bell.not to mention our contemperary understanding of european history leans heavily on various nations trying to invade russia, but freezing instead.napolean, hitler just as examples of the big ones.unless you dont think we teach napolean and hitler any more.

well the native american thing gets gone over at some level every year at thanksgiving once a child wonders what happened to those native americans we are talking about in this holiday.in fact bury my heart at wounded knee was one hell of a criticly acclaimed story of it.it is taught in primary school as standard ciriculum as well as in high school in addition to contemperary media.

those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
it is just as simple as that.
we have 6 thousand years of lore to rifle through, with the same mistakes occuring again and again.so yes i think it is of paramount importance to teach the next generation, what the previous has learned.especially in terms of how to treat one another as it is a work in progress.when world peace breaks out, and hate is relegated to history then im all for get ober it.as long as hate is a powerfull human emotion that compells, knowing of its causes and effects matters more than anything else.

never miss an oportunity for a personal attack.im so glad im not you

for the zillionth time, my spelling clearly isnt indicitive of my intelligence or cognative functions.we have covered this extensively.i clearly have a large and varied vocabulary as well as the ability to adapt to other languages to varying degrees.my spelling isnt a matter of ignorance on my part, but apathy in reference to the rules that apply to the written word.

when composing a work that matters i use spell check, when mini blogging wich is what this is, i find it to be beneath concern for spelling.as well i have a computer glitch that causes many of the typos, and im not trouble shooting every instance.

lazy author doesnt equate to ignorant.i see my spelling errors.i recognize the difference between right and wrong in this regard, i just dont care.
i recognized the type of spelling on this sign was indicitive of black speak circa old racist south, just as i read "innit" as a british coloquialism.

i will admit eden has some crazy auzzie shit i cant figure out though.

Perhaps you should work on your reading and tolerance skills.

good question that im sure in depth psycho analysis could explain, but as im not preview to that ill just chalk it up to the same element that makes you degrade discussions of all manor into name calling pissing contests.
thanks again for spreading negativity, with out you a few inches of internet script may have been free from it.thank you so much for doing your part you misserable fool

right.my shit takes a double take some times, but it is more than readable.
only when im retarded high sometimes i wander into some strange territory, but usualy im focused on a point.

lol FC...oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii...crikey, Cove, digger, tru blue...you need to be Auzziefied, or I'll send you packin' to the dunny out back and ya may get a big bite from a redback...hey, Brian, put another "prawn" on the barbie...xo

...oiiiiiiiiiiii, alphabet...back in your box...

maybe and i know this is crazy, but just as you did in using the typo acknowledgement thing as a means to be passive aggressive, they do the same to you.
maybe people arent actually interested in reasoned critique of anothers spelling, but it is a ruise to attack some one who they wish to insult.

i know its a crazy theory, but give it a wirl you may become a grown up yet

You are blocking out the watermelon. If not for the watermelon shaped sign this very well could just be mocking uneducated hillbillies.

Even with the watermelon, included: Blacks like rap on average more than the average white; and more whites like country. Unless there's something I'm missing, if blacks like watermelons statistically more than another group, who cares? If they don't, then it's just a stupid inaccurate stereotype people recognize or don't.

I'm a big advocate for anti-racism; I've made friends from many different ethnic groups--but this is just a bit tedious. No liberties are being taken, here. No threats are being made--and it's vastly open for interpretation. Whether you like it or not, pop-culture will insist on classifying and stereotyping ethnic groups.

The stereotype comes from slaves picking watermelon not eating watermelon. I think many commenter's live in well integrated parts of the country. Racism does not have to be in your face to exist.

My apologies regarding the interpretation of the watermelon. Shows how uninformed I am regarding the history of slavery; I would assume something like cotton balls would be more generic to slavery.

I suppose that changes it a bit. Playing devil's advocate, it is at the very least in poor taste. Racism is still around, I agree, but it exists in varying degrees--some acts are worse than others.

the watermelon thing kinda made sense to me, as im as white as can be and didnt eat watermelon growing up.it seems like a plauseable cultural divide that could be exploited, but the fried chicken thing always just smacked of beyond retarded.
i mean can you think of any group of people that dont like fried chicken.from africa to asia to europe where deep fried mars bars are fancied.it always seemed like saying black people eat fied chicken was like saying black people breathe oxygen, ...........and...........so............the meaning being?

ironicaly if you used prejudicial methods to guess where im from i bet you would hit the nail on the head.i wont tell ya just to see as a social experiment as to the validity to prejudicial thought.
please guess.

as far as the food goes, hawaiins may see lack of pineapple as the same travesty as lack of watermelon.polyglot culture

Well Hawaiins like spam more than anybody.
I think i can say that & not feel racist.

I give up.
where in the world don't white people eat watermelon.

interesting.
hawains denotes a culture and doesnt mean polynesians, so it is a critique of a culture not racism.
but if you said polynsians have a penchant for spam that would be racist.but in the most technical sense possible being as spam and polynisians have to implications or history with one another.

its kind of the thing im always beating the drum for with israel.just as hawaii can mean polynesian israel can mean jews.its all in the narrative and subtext i guess.

they do seem to be stoked on spam, or at least adam sandler thinks so.

its not impossible, but in new york eating watermelon is really more kitch than cultural.
like eating a hot dog in puerto rico is fun to play american, or corn beef and cabbage on st pattys day.
aside from the occassional camp color war conclusion type thing watermelon not so common.

wow i really didnt think you wouldnt be able to pegg me as a new yorker, or at least the north east

yeah, cuz it was the jews who were fighting to opress blacks through the jewish kkk, as christian freedom riders/writers faught side by with african americans.
ya know bizarro world only exists in superman comics, unless you actualy believe that shit in wich case you prove it is real as you must come from it.

i love watching you racistly try to argue against inherent racism.are you a jew for jesus by chance?

see when i told you the notion that it was a jew thing was a racist comment, it also was a suppsition that it was ignorant as racism is.
if anything pertaining to judaism effected the frequency with wich we eat watermelons, i wouldnt have called it racist but explained the position.
being as none exists, and the hatefilled theory you proposed is rediculous, it was racist.unless your a stickler for semantics, antisemitic.

jews eat no more or less watermelon than any other group by any classifaction.way to show that particular racism does exist despite it being retarded.congrats in doing the identical to the sign in question you have proven that it is racist.

When the "white" people came to Immigrate they brought something with them. The 3rd world comes here with their hands out. Big Difference.

its not racism, unless you are supposing race dictates who is opposed to illegal immigration.i dont see it as white people are against illegal immigration but racist zealous patriots.if anything it was hate speech against american citizenry, not any race in particular, unless you see being american as being white.

so no one ever mentioned thanksgivings seasonal placement is representative of a time when the pilgrims went begging to the indians for food?.winter coming and having no food, we sat with the indians who saved our ass's from our own errors.
but i guess when we need a hand out its ok, just no one else.

You're right. White people came with guns, disease, and a desire to take all the land and resources from the 'savages', as ordained by their god. Immigrants today (for the most part) come with the desire to work and take advantages of the richness this country just like everyone else here.

But then it's also important to keep in mind the US has obtained it's 'prosperity' on the backs of those in the third world, using governmental subsidies on grain so other countries can't compete on a global market, using slave wage labor with outsourced industry to keep prices artificially low and goods superficially better than in the rest of the world, and invading foreign countries that disagree with us and setting up government after government there until one of them lets the US do what it wants.

wow you are six kinds of confused.
the joke is that she miss's her firend not her man.
i didnt change the spelling, but by all means just assume what ever suites you.like i said it didnt strike me as racist, just hillbilly redneck-esk until i got to the end where it said "sho duz" wich sparked an instant association with blacksplotation of the turn of the century, that the kkk hangs its hat on.

derogitory comments are derogatory comments irrespective of the reason, white, fat or what ever.my concern with racism over fatism (if that even is a word) is how it has played out in our society.i dont know about you but i really dont care to return to "colored" only establishments and no dogs or jews signs.

call me a cracker, as that hasnt resulted in a historical evil as racism against blacks has.

thats what im asking kinda.
the verbage is just as much slave slang, as appalachian hillbilly speak.the fact that it is on a watermelon slice as opposed to a corn cob pipe or pair of overalls makes me suspicious.

i dont know if it is a reason to be happy, that we have moved so far passed it that it no longer is a matter in race relations, or if this is historicaly how old hate lingers.
i know that before the holocaust, the antisemitism of europe had become so common place that no one was really surprised at how jews were being treated, not even the jews.they were used to being treated that way.
i would hate to think this is a piece of the puzzle future historians will cite when discussing a humanitarian travesty we commit in the future.
maybe this is the same as jews have horns, or maybe it is a symbol that we have surpassed such thinking as true.

thank you

Your son is a wise young man. You should be proud.

You laughting at me why you little @$$&*(( I"LL KICK YOUR @$$ SO FAR UP YOUR BACK IT WILL LOOK LIKE A HAT.!. AHA HA HA HA just kidding You have a great sense of humor I hope you get it from your son.

in respect to the n word, that is an ongoing debate that has no official conclusion.thier was a film, it think it was called "why we laugh" or it may have been another.point being that apparently the n word debate with in black america has yet to be resolved.
generation after generation from red fox to richard prior to nwa to "artists" of today use the n word when they are young, but make a public point to stop as they reach adulthood.the older generations keep to "the n word is unacceptable to be used by anyone" while the youth are "taking the word back".

todays user of the word is tomorrows decrier of its use.

There is the book "The N word".

too bad the nazis lost, cuz he would have a great career in hate speech with that metodology of thought."i know he said your a dirty jew who should be killed, just ignore it and grow up.what is the worst that could happen".
6 million statements later.............................

Let me explain why your logic is flawed...

Just because everything can be interpreted in a given way does not mean that it will be interpreted that way; thus everything will not be interpreted as such in you example.
This is such that, the can excludes the will from everything giving us an end conclusion that is a fallacy.

racism agains people from nabu?

...noooooooooooooooooo, not ja ja binks...(although Yoda is my fave)...

:giggle:: And maybe they are lesbians?