No God We Trust

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echoz
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to think all of you could be so damnably deprived of your party, and your right to "be good." yeah right, as if you needed any excuse to begin with, who stops you hedonist pagan fuqs from doing what you want anyway, ANY day of the week. You there, calling for the wanton "sacrifice" of Virginity with a capital V...you'll find better like-mindedness with a whore. Nothing is holy to you dogs. And I am by no means the perfect saint, I don't even come close, AT ALL, in fact I probably more thoroughly enjoy (or care to) many of things you all entitle yourselves to, but I don't drag another's beliefs through mud trampling it as I go as though virtually any one else's faith could be so inconsequential, or unaffected. Offer some damn respect, afford some dignity, and you might find some for yourselves.
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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JoJoDeuce
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i have seen no religious imagery in adds at all, sorry and thank goodness, i wouldn't want God associated with consumerism
- 3 years ago
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JoJoDeuce
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Gargaryun
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Summer Solstice, Winter Solstice,Fertility Rites, whatever....Let's just go sacrifice some Virginity, People!!!
- 3 years ago
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Gargaryun
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pat713
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It's great. Religious groups should not have a monopoly on the holiday celebrations. Christmas was originally a pagan celebration and should be enjoyed as such. Everbody knows Jesus was born in the summer and that his birthday was moved to winter to coincide with the winter solstice holiday and celebration.
Let's celebrate more and preach less. Merry Xmas!
- 3 years ago
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pat713
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ShaneXCore
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I do believe people should be good, regardless of their religios beliefs.
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This reminds me of the Starbucks cup things.. the conversation starters..
Those are Radtastic! - 3 years ago
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ShaneXCore
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"you know, i'm not questioning your belief. I know what it is, and basically it's humanism. It's a religion itself. You think I should be embarrassed with the fact that you "adhere" to christian teachings antithetical and hypocritical to the very "faith" you profess so boldly?"
You have no idea what my faith or beliefs are. That's your problem. It doesn't matter to you, you just see someone who doesn't agree and attack it because it's different.
Yes, I think you should be utterly embarrased by the fact that you COMPLETELY IGNORED the message presented. "Be good because you should regardless of faith." That's not "Christianity is Bad", it's not "If you believe in God you're dumb." It's purely a message to say that we should all be better people. You ignored that.
"I'm not really trying to be an asshole when I tell you I'm not even breaking a blush for you. I know you'd like me to put some stock into the book you'd like to claim I profess. Perhaps you should too, when you realize that we all have the free right to believe in God, whether you like it or not."
Yeah, we all have a right to believe in God. We also all have a right to believe in something else. Or nothing at all. You seem to forget that in your blathering.
"You go on and believe in nothing. Don't think I'm attacking you personally, in defense of the good book you'd like me to pick up for your "defense""
Right. You're attacking an idea for the wrong reasons because you lack the mental ability to understand the message itself, and instead start stroking yourself over some righteous belief that you know what's actually going on. You don't. You have no concept of what the goal is with these ads. You see something there that isn't and you lock onto it with religious fervor.
Why is it SO HARD for you, and for people like you, to accept that we should be good people just because it's the right thing to do?
Ahh, right. Because you lack the wit.
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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necrotized:
Common courtesy goes a long way with some people, I know, and not far enough in others, I say, but... Does it truly merely require wit to be good for the sake of being good? Hmmm. And only because seemingly you've so customarily patented it the "right" thing to do? =D O such trumpeted humanism never dared blared the brighter, though supposedly incomprehensible to me, by your account, inhuman as I am. By all means, be good. Help that old lady cross the street, if you think it changes the world, or even if it doesn't. Just do pardon me, for the sake of others than yourself, if I dare think the problem of lying evil runs much rather much much hatefully murderously deeper than you care to entertain in a "simpler" life you envision for the rest of the world lacking mere principle and "wit"...allegedly
But don't let me contort or twist you from your prized confidence, imagining myself so uncouthly ignorant you must feel really really good about your loftier ideals, and your "message," although truly I think it's been much better said and sung with better melody at least a thousand times better before, probably with the same short-lived affect on the churning seas of humanity.
Yes we are free to believe what we want. I'll thank My God for that (Thank You LORD!), and as you say, you can thank Him, or...nothing at all, whatever "your" beliefs are, should you choose well enough to stand by them. Certainly it's your business. You certainly don't need or require my humble imprematur.
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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echoz
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you know, i'm not questioning your belief. I know what it is, and basically it's humanism. It's a religion itself. You think I should be embarrassed with the fact that you "adhere" to christian teachings antithetical and hypocritical to the very "faith" you profess so boldly? tsk. I'm not really trying to be an asshole when I tell you I'm not even breaking a blush for you. I know you'd like me to put some stock into the book you'd like to claim I profess. Perhaps you should too, when you realize that we all have the free right to believe in God, whether you like it or not.
You go on and believe in nothing. Don't think I'm attacking you personally, in defense of the good book you'd like me to pick up for your "defense" ;)
"God bless" or "Nothing bless you" 'brother' =D
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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I'm not even sure why I'm bothering, you just further my point.
But I'll bite on this one.
"And if even you acknowledge that atheism is simply, as you put it yourself, "an opinion," who are you to question what most people freely hold as their own "opinion" especially when it's obvious to me as it will be to many others that you're simply, pettily demagoguish."
Who are YOU to question my beliefs? What makes you so special that you can criticize others for how they view the world, but when someone goes contrary to your opinion, it's perfectly ok to attack them.
That is called hypocrisy.
You don't even know if I'm an Athiest, you just make the assumption.
And yeah, I'm petty and 'demogoguish' for saying that it shouldn't matter what religion you belong to, you should be a good person. My bad, here I thought that was a basic tenet of the religion you're embarrasing.
"Effectively, atheism is just a hollow shell for a more prevalent and poisonous humanism, just a weaker excuse for it than the more potent temptation of unrestrained selfishness in the basically "do as thou wilt, selfish 'I really love myself'" personal manifesto of humanism."
Right. Which is why the message isn't, "Hey, screw God, go get hammered and kill some babies."
It's "Be good to other people."
Also, the assertion that Athiests believe in nothing is untrue. They just don't believe in God. I know someone as mentally damaged, narrow-sighted and clearly unthinking as yourself has trouble making that distinction, which is even more cause for these signs to be out in the public eye. Just like all of those Christian signs touting their point of view. But again, as with most of you narrow-minded zealots, it's only bad if it disagrees with your world view.
I don't even know where to begin to tear apart your idiotic, self-stroking moronic car analogy. You represent everything that is bad about your faith. You ignore the basic scriptures, the teachings of your Lord whenever it suits you to this fantastically stupid and ill-representative manner.
It should embarrass you, if you were smart enough to understand the words you were throwing around, that someone who is not Christian is adhering more closely to the teachings of your faith than you are.
Let me again state it, slowly, using very small words you can understand. Try to read them carefully so this will sink in.
It's not about God. It's not about your God, or my God, or their God. It's about not being a complete asshole, as you are being; it's about being a good person because it's the right thing to do, not because you're threatened by being thrown in a lake of fire if you don't.
I shouldn't have to remind you, such a devout if misguided and horribly misinformed Christian, that you should be adhering to the teachings of your faith. Because the tactics you're using, the words you flay and the idiocy you espouse by attacking your 'brother' gets you a one-way ticket to Hell.
It's true. You should read that book you put so much stock in.
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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why do you feel so haplessly "attacked" about a worldview you won't even openly confess to believe in, that being atheism, or humanism (at best)? You deserve an Oscar for your practiced role as a poor poor and insulted lamer victim, but you need only step out of character a moment to see you only seem to fool yourself.
You're like the fox in the hen house compaining "I'm being attacked!" and..."weren't you supposed to be more the chicken and less the hawk?" But as the chickens would disappear with all their eggs, one by one, I think you'd find such little to complain about with so much more to smile for, insisting it's about "unification" which is a sick euphemism for the lack of truer respect you'd suffer on others. as no one truly need impress you, pucker up and kiss off u sick necrophiliac
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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echoz
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"Why should Christianity or Catholicism have dominance?" this is eristic petty bs. Most people are Christian because we live in a Christian culture...hence even your own unconcious advice that I "turn the other cheek". Would you make even close to the same "stink" in an Islamic "dominated" country where you know you can't count on taking Christian kindness for a weakness? I SERIOUSLY doubt it. But many Christians have and would SERIOUSLY die for it, and they have and continue to risk their lives because they actually, honestly believe in the dynamic faith they profess...it's quite a bit more than the mere good-will tiding for literally "nothing" belief of atheism. I think I'd be hard-pressed to find an atheist willing to put his life on the line for anything but spite that he is a minority in virtually any country or culture in the world. Effectively, atheism is just a hollow shell for a more prevalent and poisonous humanism, just a weaker excuse for it than the more potent temptation of unrestrained selfishness in the basically "do as thou wilt, selfish 'I really love myself'" personal manifesto of humanism.
And if even you acknowledge that atheism is simply, as you put it yourself, "an opinion," who are you to question what most people freely hold as their own "opinion" especially when it's obvious to me as it will be to many others that you're simply, pettily demagoguish. Your complaints stop short of being more tantamount to feigning intolerable bitterness for the self-imposed condition that you drive a commonplace pussy-pistoned honda civic all-the-while bitching and tailgating that I should just be made to give up my rapacious rotary RX-8, to the spiteful effect that you'd like no more than to just wrek and smash every Mazda, only because you "believe" so much in Honda.
Well, sharing the same road we're all driving in this flesh and blood, I'm not on your ass for driving a Honda, but I don't want you in mine for my RX-8 either. =P And don't be jealous because I LOVE my RX-8s a LOT more than you probably, realistically do your civics.
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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echoz:
"I SERIOUSLY doubt it. But many Christians have and would SERIOUSLY die for it, and they have and continue to risk their lives because they actually, honestly believe in the dynamic faith they profess..."
Right. So only the Christians that are overseas right now fighting for your freedom, for your freedom to be a complete and utter idiot, are the only REAL people fighting and dying.
You seriously need to get out of your house more and look the hell around you. You people whine and moan about being persecuted, 'Oh wah boo hoo someone is talking about something I don't agree with'. You bitch about democracy and freedom and the willing to die for your beliefs, but here you sit. On a computer. Bitching at people on the internet with no regard for the actual message; just attempting to belittle someone who doesn't believe the same things that you do.
But yeah, it's really hard for you to see that. It must be hard to see around your colon.
- 3 years ago
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echoz:
yeah I got your message fool, but I can't tell if you really like being good for the sake of being good, or if just you like the smell of your own ass-crack on your tongue that much more, u sick fuq. Are you gay? cuz you know what you can do with yourself...
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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necrotized
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Athiesm is an opinion, just as faith is a belief.
Plus, those of us who don't follow your faith have been putting up with ads for your religion for a long time. Why should Christianity, or Catholicism, or any one faith have dominance over public displays?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/188/418948494_f93636cfb6.jpg?v=0
http://www.freethoughtpedia.com/images/Crazy_billboard.jpg
http://www.godvertising.com/images/400-image001.jpg
http://www.discord.org/GodThreat.JPG
And finally, something I think both groups SHOULD agree on. Be good people, regardless.
http://blogs.southflorida.com/citylink_dansweeney/God_Billboard.jpg
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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think i'll pass on the invitation to Xstian apathy and apostacy.
heh... "people are starting to see"??? hahahaha 81 views a huh. =D if you don't like christianity, honestly, mutually, I feel exactly the same about your atheism.
as berating goes...why hi-jack a traditionally religious holiday to berate a larger faith, you don't even have? Lonely? hehehehe Atheists shouldn't even care. they believe in nothing, AT ALL, hahahaha you live you die and there's no afterlife so who gives a hell (you don't believe in) about you? Why should we "be good"??? for what? lol... What's the incentive if it means nothing in the end? real exciting meaningful belief system u got there! lol =D even if it's just hope that separates us, at least we have hope =D with your faith? you're about as important as a bug.
Incidentally, the bible does encourage one to be kind, even to one's known enemies. Jesus healed one of the roman soldier's ears when he got it chopped off for messing with the King. =D I'll try to remember *His* advice because *He* said it, but you? lmao...wtf are you???? no one who believes in nothing, and worse than lost.
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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echoz:
"why hi-jack a traditionally religious holiday to berate a larger faith, you don't even have?"
Like, Christianity vs Paganism and various celebrations of the Winter solstice?
"real exciting meaningful belief system u got there! lol =D even if it's just hope that separates us, at least we have hope =D with your faith? you're about as important as a bug."
Way to represent your faith. People put up a sign saying "Be nice because it's important to be nice for it's own sake", and you berate them for it. Turn the other cheek, brother.
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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echoz:
again I'd ask, why do atheist even care if they believe in nothing? what's the incentive as far a religion or a bona fide belief system goes? yet, MORE nothing? =D lol
look, people who aren't good in math don't really feign having taken offense when everyday they encouter it all around them. I'm not pissed off because when I visit a foreign country that they all speak a language I don't understand. I don't take it personal. It's their culture, THEIR custom, and though I may not appreciate everything, there are certainly good things to be gained from it. Why is Christianity any different? Honestly, objectively, your atheism doesn't really bother or offend me either, per se, as much as the petty penchant to be as petulant as some limp-wristed effeminate panzy.
I honestly don't feel I'm so much representing my faith as perhaps holding out the petty absurdity of your position ;D
And of course, turning the other cheek is a Christian proposition. Ironic then that you aren't so "offended" to be using it to your own advantage as it suits you ;D That's okay, unless you only mean to be engagingly eristic, which to me, seems might be the real case here much less than any profession of actual offense. As pagans go, it seems to me that you might be better taking the tact that, when in Rome, do as the Romans do...and when you believe in nothing, that should be the easiest thing. If you actually do anything you don't completely agree with, it doesn't really have mean anything =) lol sweet! The Christian faith requires a little more. But it's not like you're mandatorily required to go to church and confess your sins or recite the Christian pledge of allegiance or whatever anyway so... =P lol Why cry??? =D Life is already good for you, unless you want to take egocentricity to a totally new level as regards the "laudable merits" of atheism.
- 3 years ago
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echoz
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echoz:
"And of course, turning the other cheek is a Christian proposition. Ironic then that you aren't so "offended" to be using it to your own advantage as it suits you ;D "
Yes. Turning the other cheek is a Christian proposition. It's ironic then that you refuse to do so, made even more ironic by the fact that you're using a rule of your own faith to attack someone. You know, I almost wish I believed in your God that I may have the peace of knowing you were actually going to some lake of unending suffering.
"It's their culture, THEIR custom, and though I may not appreciate everything, there are certainly good things to be gained from it. Why is Christianity any different? Honestly, objectively, your atheism doesn't really bother or offend me either, per se, as much as the petty penchant to be as petulant as some limp-wristed effeminate panzy."
Because only terrible Christians, such as yourself, espouse brotherly love, forgiveness and kindness above all else, and then turn around and allude to someone being gay as an insult. Only a terrible Christian such as yourself ignores your faith when needed just to make a point.
It's enough for you and others like you to say you believe in something, rather than actually practicing what you preach. You are nothing more than a hypocrit, crying over the idea that someone disagrees with you and is standing up for what they believe in. I know that's an alien concept for someone like you, but you should read about this guy named Christ. He went against the grain and stood up for what he believed in, in the face of idiotic intolerance. Sortof like we're doing by standing up for what we believe in, that we should, as people, be good to one another.
That doesn't mean God or the belief in God isn't necessary. I know this is REALLY hard for you to understand, because the world for you is black and white. You're your own hero, an idiot savvant who stands up and waves his digital penis like the righteous sword of truth. But what you really need to grasp here is that the idea of these messages isn't to undermine God, it's to remind people that regardless of faith, and that includes idiots like you, should be good to others.
I know, being good to others must be an extremely difficult proposition for someone who so obviously feels that brotherly love, turning the other cheek, loving thy neighbor and all that is a terrible idea. After all, Jesus must have been well known for calling others names for believing differently while weilding a shotgun and screaming 'Damn the fags.'
You and others like you make me sick. Christianity would be much better off without the likes of you. Maybe then it wouldn't be so maligned by others, so hated by other faiths and would cause less strife in the world.
I hope you're right. I hope there is a God, that the Bible and what it teaches is true; that by being a two-faced bigot, you won't be going to Heaven. That's reserved for the people who actually follow the teachings of Christ, who adhere to his guidelines even when it's not convenient.
- 3 years ago
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Im glad that people are starting to see the other side of the religous background. Many people are atheist and have no faith while the other half argue over which religion is the better one and they are all blindly following some one. "Well thats just my opinion"
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It's really too bad that religious groups, so keen on berating people for not believing the same way that they do, are against good will.
This isn't about attacking Christianity; it's about unification. Being a good person solely for the sake of being a good person, regardless of religious or non-religious beliefs.
Isn't that what Jesus taught? Be good to your brother for the sake of it.
- 3 years ago
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Jahvega
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This is a conversation so many of the brain washed religious prudes fear. However, "being good for goodness sake" is a great message. This can also lead to new idea's about God and the freedom to express individual views of God. After all, God is just a personal concept with no wrong answer. No facts or proof to say otherwise. Maybe its time to break away from religious monarchy structures that govern our lives whether we believe or not. Yeah Humanist
- 3 years ago
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Jahvega