Abortion in Nicaragua

Reread your response and missed a few things. Your statement, "who are you to tell people what to do..." is what prompted me to write that you might believe that pro-lifers impose their beliefs on others. This is verified by your statement in your latest reply: "Pro-lifers seek to control the morality of others outside themselves..."

Do you, or do you not believe this? If it is, then be honest!

It is quite a generalization about pro-lifers I thought you read up on both sides? If you did, then you would not really feel this way. I've discussed this with open minded pro-choicers who understand the position of pro-lifers and are not as judgmental as you are. They understand that it's a philosophical difference about when life begins and deserves protection. They do not condemn or accuse us of "imposing beliefs"
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"What I choose to do or not do with my body doesn't affect anyone but myself. That is hardly the same as stealing from others, identity theft and other things you listed. Welfare for the poor... services in place to to help disadvantaged people is hardly the same and off topic."

A lot of this does affect others. And when my daughter is having an abortion, you'd better believe it affects me to see her go through pain. It affects society when women are abused and suffer. Abortion is suffering for many.

The things you listed affect society, too--like welfare (it is not off topic if it is part of the point I am making). If you are for any of these things, then you are imposing your morals on the rest of us. Do you vote? When you vote, you impose.

Don't be afraid to be principled, even if people disagree with your ideas! I think it's good to be honest about one's beliefs, even if I don't agree. This also should tell you that I am not at all threatened by you or anything you say. I enjoy discussing. :)

You didn't answer any of my questions. Do you believe in any of the things I listed? I'm not presuming anything and am asking a simple question. My point was, we all believe in order and "impose" our morals on others. E.g., I believe child abuse is wrong and that people should pay the consequences for it. Do you? If you answer yes, then you are imposing your beliefs on society and on others. It's not a judgment, just a fact. And there's nothing wrong with defending those who cannot defend themselves. :)

The folks against abortion simply have a philosophical difference of opinion about when life begins and whose lives warrant legal protection. I don't see how the woman who approached you was "judgemntal" (please define this), unless she condemned you, called you an ugly name, implied that you are bad. How is telling you that you have other options doing any of these things? Did she call you a guilty sinner? Isn't is presumptuous to think she believes this? Next time, perhaps you should ask her. How do you know that she did not an abortion? Or ten?

Further, many post abortive woman would have thanked her had they known they had other options before their abortion. A stat just came out: 80% of women felt coerced into having their abortions and felt they had no other choice. Many are/were pro-life, but were desperate. They *regret* their choice and would have thanked this woman.

I think abortion is oppression. It's insulting to solve a woman's problem by telling her to kill her baby (for the woman who believes it is a baby--and many do). What's almost as bad is that it is a dream come true for the male chauvinist/abuser/womanizer/pedophile: knock 'em and get rid of the problem. Her choice is to end the life inside her and if she doesn't, it's not his fault that he decided to leave since she chose wrong. And yes, it happens. Now THAT'S oppression.

There are hateful pro-lifers. But you'll be surprised at how many are not. I don't condemn women who have abortions; I feel for them. I've friends that have had them. I was almost aborted (am a rape baby); my mother was abusive and didn't want me. I thank God and her for choosing life. I don't condemn her. It sounds cliche, but we have all sinned, and for those of us who are fortunate enough to have more hidden sins, we have no right to condemn anyone. I won't do it. Those women need help, not exploitation by the likes of NARAL or NOW who don't dare speak up human rights violations in places like China where women are strapped to tables and their babies are torn from their bodies--against their wills.

They fight parental consent laws, fight laws that force them to provide women with more information (don't want women to see ultrasounds if the woman wants to), pretend there is no risk of post abortive trauma (they deny that completely, and the correlation with breast cancer.

Choice? Ha! believe you in your ideas, but these folks are con artists.

Abortion is a hard choice that should be left up to the individuals involved. It should remain as safe as possible and legal because people are going to find a way to do it anyway if they are set on it. You don't have to agree, but my question has always been who are you to tell people what to do and judge them for their own choices? Stay out of my business and I will stay out of yours. This is a personal choice and you must face the aftermath and live with yourself.
The procedure is not for me but I'm not into taking away other peoples rights in this country or anywhere else.

There is always a better alternative to murder. It is better to allow the child to come into the world and then allow the child to determine whether it wants to be here. Allow a couple who is infertile to adopt your child..I wish I had done so. Many famous and successful great minds were adopted. You never know who you could be carrying inside of you..

I personally used to think abortion was safe and should be used but now that I had an abortion about 5 years ago I deeply regret doing so. I now have dreams about my unborn child and also it left a dangerous fibroid cyst inside of my uterus which is kinda creepy. I never felt a spiritual closeness to God until now and I have found out that God really cares about the unborn children in a way I never imagined. It is kinda creepy that the womb that is used to bring life into the world is now a tomb for my precious child my exboyfriend urged me to murder. Women never realize this until after the fact.

Excellently done! Congratulations The Underground!

What's with the "only God has the right to take away life". Does father Henry even know how the Christian religion was spread to South America? Through genocide and bloodshed. Natives were enslaved and forced to convert to Christianity or they died. So in that case, I suppose the logic would be that it was a divine intervention or something that the conquistadores were fulfilling? Hmm.... sounds like a double standard if you ask me. Humans only have the right to take away life if it somehow justifies a means to an end? Or how about to promote self-righteous beliefs and a political agenda?

ding ding ding...you get a gold star!

how 'bout this one?

we're all going to heaven. some though, must go through hell before they get there.

So let me get this straight.... promote sex ed. and you're going to hell, learn about sex before you're married and you're going to hell, use contraception and you're going to hell, or have an abortion and yup you guessed it, you're going to hell.

Religion again screwing things up............. Almost every tragedy on this site has one thing in common RELIGION.

Disgusting. I found this to be biased and completely one-sided.

The undercover doctor says that the law has made abortion a business? Guess what Planned Parenthood is? And abortion is legal here in the US.

And for those that say you can't legislate morality, where do you think the reasoning behind laws against fraud, stealing, and murder come from?

very good

The catholic church is the biggest contradiction.

How horribly sad..Abortion as a method for Contraception disgusts Me. Especially Partial Birth Abortions. But clearly in the case of saving the Mother I agree with saving the Life of the Mother. As the Lady being interviewed said. If Your wealthy no problem. It's an outrage, hypocritical, double standard. What a horrible mess We are in. The whole topic is just so emotional that reason gets thrown out the window. What has happened? Why is there no middle ground here? WTF is the Government doing again Legislating Morality? Education is the key but the Church won't allow it? Where are the voices of reason here? And lastly what are the Parents doing to Educate their Children? You can't say well just stop having Sex. It's not that simple. the responsibility has to come from the Home first and foremost. that's where it starts. In developing Nations the Parents have no materials to help them responsibly teach their Children. So what's the answer? Eliminating the Church is not going to happen. Poverty is not going to go away. Governments can't Legislate Morality. Information is the key. In this case I believe the Medical Community working in conjunction with the Parents not the Government is an answer. But the Government is a threat to the Medical Community. It seems that no one wants the Responsibility here. You know, doing things over and over the same way and expecting change is Insanity.

This is another country persecuted by Religion and its’ people need to suffer from it. Even though most of them seem once again not practicing what you preach. Go to Church on Sunday, and have Sex that night or the next. This is why Women have the problem. I believe in some way that this not a bad law. This incorporates certain standards and responsibilities, which have not worked with the people. What is so hard about making signs to “PULL OUT”?

This story is a heart breaker and very well done. The midwife that helped with the arrival of my two children volunteers in Nicaragua. I never knew how important her work was until I watched this POD, thank you.