Obama on Abortion at Notre Dame
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unclecharlie
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bwillis89, continue defending those who can't defend themselves, despite what "the enlightened" try to feed you.......
- 3 years ago
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unclecharlie
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unclecharlie
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Civil discourse, my arse. Homicide, deliberately causing the death of another. Try again, Obama. Obama giving a long winded speech at Notre Dame is like "The Grand Dragon" of the Ku Klux Klan giving a speech at Morehouse College about finding "comon ground" when it comes to lynchings and cross burnings!
- 3 years ago
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unclecharlie
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bwillis89
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Why worry about that when there is murders happening in our own country!? Of course I'm against the war but innocent lives are being taken. for example, babies! A fetus lives off of the nutrients of the mother. It is alive whether people choose to believe it or not! Obama did make a good point on trying to prevent the girls from getting pregnant. I just don't like the fact that these babies that are in the mothers womb are being taken out with what....a sharp object! Aren't we mammals? And the when a mammal has a baby, isn't it alive? If a mother dies, the fetus dies with it. it is not an object, it is a living being.
- 3 years ago
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bwillis89
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carmalite
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bwillis89:
Not all religions agree with you about th foetus. Should your religious beliefs be superior to theirs? HIndus, Buddhists and many Christians do not agree with you.
And also, what about Bobby Jindal the La. governor who thinks a woman should die rather than have an abortion.
Yes he thinks a woman should die even if she has 5 other children at home and is the breadwinner. That is the type of extreme position that the anti-choice group is taking.The Catholic church is also anti-death penalty besides being anti-choice, so why are they not protesting at prisons? And why are they so undisturbed about the innocent Iraquie civilians, including children and pregnant women who were killed as "collateral damage"
A little hypocricy goes a long way when you have a hidden agenda. - 3 years ago
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carmalite
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bwillis89
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bwillis89:
Why do care what my religious beliefs are? What does Iraq have anything to do with this? lol You're way off topic. lol I believe that abortion is wrong whether or not I'm a christian.
- 3 years ago
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bwillis89
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carmalite
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bwillis89:
It has a lot to do with it. Think. Most anti-choice people don't have a problem with killing someone who is already here either by accident;, like collateral damage in Iraq, or intentionally in execution.
It may not be related to you, but it is to everyone else.
And if you did not notice, all the fruit cakes in this demonstration are religous nut cases. And not everyone considers a 2 cell organism a human being. And not everyone believes that women should have enforced pregnancy.
Preventing a women from having an abortionis enforced pregnancy. - 3 years ago
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carmalite
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bwillis89
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bwillis89:
2 celled organism?! It's growing in the mothers stomache. It's like if I wanted to get an abortion and someone just rips the fetus growing inside of me?! You call that okay. It's like saying oh it is okay to kill a baby animal. No matter what religion God, Allah, Buddha, whatever, it was in His design for that mother to have a child. And anyways, the girl that got pregnant in the first place should've had the common sense to use not have sex in the first place. There is no many girls having premarital sex it's crazy. But anyways, I'm not even talking about Iraq here. And besides it the Taliban that had corrupted the true faith of Muslim religion. You don't have to educate me. If we are to help the Iraqis in their country, we need to take a look upon our own country and realize that we are corrupt people. There is a lot of horrible, inhumane acts of violence in our own country. We are the ones that interfered with the war. We brought it upon ourselves. What about adoption? that is a more plausible action to make for a teen girl. A two cell organism is alive just like another other cell. A cell makes up a being or a animal or a plant. Every thing with a cell needs food to live on, it needs someone to take care of that 2 celled organism. If a teen girl was pregnant and she was say anorexic, then the fetus will die. I've seen abortion picture and they're pretty gruesome. The fetus's heart is there, the eye is there, and i've seen one where the head, limbs and body was almost developed. It disgusts me that girls just let the doctors rip that fetus out of them! It's horrible. One way or another it is murder. And it is sad that Iraqi men, women, and children and babies are being killed. It's because we are a cruel nation. We are acting like facists. lol. We are greedy, vain, and gluttonous people. Since we have the most immigrants coming in, they think that the US is a great place and it's really not. There may be some good people out there but that doesn't make us fricken saints. lol. We are far from that. Bush has ruined everything for us. And Obama, I hope and pray that he puts this nation back to the way it was. When I wass growing up, everything in the polictics area was going alright. There were no troubles except maybe some crimes here and there. But we as a nation have gone downhill. Everyone is so liberal and our nation wasn't brought up that way, It was founded on God. It's the Masons and the Knights of Templar that have screwed us over with their greed. The Rothschilds and Rockafellers and the other bank people back in the late 1900's have put us into so much debt. It's all because of our actions that made us the way we are today. And it sickens me. This was supposed to be the land of free and now we have to watch what he say? I thought we had freedom of speech? It breaks my heart that so many people my age and up are becoming ignorant to the fact that our country is not what it used to be. The 1950's was probably the best year because you could have your doors unlocked, you saved your virginity for marriage, you weren't hooked on drugs, there was less murders, and everything was peaceful. Of course the WW1 and WW2 wasn't a good thing and that's because we weren't even supposed to go into those wars. We just wanted to for the money. Everything comes down to greed and beind vain and foolish. It's the devil that persuades us to do these things 'cause God gave us a freewill. We abused it. God isn't some guy with a magnifiying glass and were ants...thats just ridiculous. The religions that push God on people is who I don't agree with. If someone wants to know about Him then that's great. I'm not a person who pushes that upon anybody. It's the ignorance of this nation that really gets on my nerves.
- 3 years ago
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bwillis89
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carmalite
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bwillis89:
You are not going to be able to go back to the "good ole days" of the 1950s. Were they so good? Some states did not allow people to purchase birthcontrol, and that included married people.
You think its a human when its only a few cells, and I do not. It does not grow in the stomache, but the uterus.
My religion does not think abortion is murder. I don't think its murder unless it can survive outside of the uterus.
Hey the good ole days are gone. Keep your doors locked and educate your children about sex or you will have babies having babies.
- 3 years ago
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carmalite
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bwillis89
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bwillis89:
If the girls that actually listened to their sex ed teachers than there wouldn't be so many prenancies!! And Um...I don't have kids. I will certainly educate them on what's wrong and right. I've grown up it a bad home. I know what the dangers of this world are and can do. You're saying that the fetus is like it doesn't even exist. It exists when the girl get pregnant! Duh! The fetus is a living being. Just like, for lack of better words, a virus. A virus lives off the good cell and multiples. As for the fetus, it lives off what the mother eats. My fiancees mother got pregnant at 43! 43!!! She had the baby! Women in their forties, it's hard for them to have a healthy baby but with the prayer, she had a healthy baby boy. Their was a complication at first because there has to be three veins one for oxygen, one for food, and one for waste. the one for waste didn't develop. But by praying she came through. Her baby boy is healthy. Now how can you not say that God wasn't apart of that? Do you think it was by shear coincidence? That oh, it evolved into a healthy baby? lmao. And babies having babies, thats just sick. I don't know you would even think that way. And birthcontrol...that wasn't invented yet, lol. Some girls might be allergic to it. Who knows!! And yeah I know the good ole days are gone! What do you think I just said!? lol OMG! The years have gone downhill. Our fricken nation has gone to the pits! We are ruining this nation! lol. Are you that ignorant or do I have to spell it out for you? and saying it was the stomache was my bad, but still, if the girl just at least gave it up for adoption then she wouldn't have to deal with the child if she wasn't ready for parenthood so that the baby had a proper loving home with maybe a mother who isn't able to concieve! lol. Common sense here! Girls should think before they do. Not go right ahead and have sex! And what if the condom breaks? Thats one way to get pregnant, hello! And you don't use a condom! lol It's not that hard to figure out. lol. And birth control is not that fullproof. It may work a little and help with periods but you're still gonna get pregnant, lol. Teen girls might as well stay abstinent or get their tubes tied! lol. Cause one way or another girls are going to be rebellious and not listen to the advice they are given 'cause they're so in love and then they get a shock in their life when something like pregnancy happens or if they get an STD. Birthcontrol is not going to fix everything. It's either She wears a condom or he does. Or they don't have sex at all. lol. It's not that fricken hard to figure out! And you see 12 to 15 year olds on Maury and they are like "I'm going to have a baby 'cause I want to." or "I love to have sex and you can't tell me what to do, you don't know me." And you see their mothers crying because they didn't bring them up right, they didn't teach them the right way to go about it. I'm glad to have a mom that taught me the right things in life and I'm glad that I'm still a virgin because you never know. Any girl can get pregnant even if they use protection or birthcontrol. Nothing can fully protect you. It doesn't work that way. and the older women who can't afford the child could always give it up for adoption. Adoption is way better than killing the fetus. I don't care what anyone says I'm still sticking to my belief in pro-life. I'm a love not a fighter.
- 3 years ago
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bwillis89
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artemis6
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If people want to stop killing , they should stop WAR first . Stop poverty . Clean the environment . Take care of the life we are already trashing , first ! Get sensible priorities , one thing at a time , then abortion will not happen all of its own . Also it would be good to teach people to think things through ......
- 3 years ago
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artemis6
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carmalite
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artemis6:
I agree with you. When you talk to a Fundamentalist about poverty, many of them will tell you "The poor will always be with us." And that justifies their greed. Its in the bible. So because there will always be poor, there is no reason to try to reduce the number. And they make money off the slave wages too.
I agree with your theory about the causes of abortion and what would drastically reduce it.
- 3 years ago
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carmalite
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carmalite
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The real issue behind the anti-choice stance of the Catholic church is having more and more Catholics to put money in the colection plate. The Catholic church flourishes on ignorance, superstition, and starving peasants, and so do the fundamentalist churches.
The elite in our society want the peasants to have lots of children so they can have lots of cheap labor.
If this were not the case birthcontrol which is what prevents abortion would be widely available and teens would be tauight about it and STDs. Prevention is what is needed. No woman ever decides to have an abortion without anguish. And I know a girl in college who got raped and had to have one. The crazies would have made her have that baby.
- 3 years ago
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carmalite
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humanpasta
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Obama handled the interuptions and protests with grace and dignity. Like an ADULT....
- 3 years ago
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humanpasta
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darthophage
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humanpasta:
He is much more intelligent and patient than his opponents give him credit for.
- 3 years ago
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darthophage
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carmalite
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humanpasta:
He is the president, that in my lifetime and observation, handles himself better than any other one. He is calm, deliberative, articulate, and sooooo sane.
- 3 years ago
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carmalite
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Will_the_Thrill
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Let's not abort people, people. Make the girls have the unwanted kid, so when he/she grows up, they can fill up our army quota or jails. It's not like the foster homes aren't overflowing with unwanted kids. Religion has made idiots of us all.
But, it's not like it's a complex issue or anything.
- 3 years ago
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Will_the_Thrill
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carmalite
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Will_the_Thrill:
Its made idiots of those too stupid to actually think and analyze facts and observe reality.
They want cheap labor. Starving people make good cheap labor. Religon is teamed up with the corporatist elites and for a reason. The poorer people are the easier they are to control. The middle class revolts and that is why they want the middle class destroyed.
I am so sick of these fools trying to cram their interpretation of religion into our culture.
- 3 years ago
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carmalite
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carmalite
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Not all Christian churches agree that a fetus is a human being. Some Christian churches believe that it is not a human being until it can survive outside of its mother.
So should those who belong to churches that don't agree with the Catholics and the Fundamentalists have to change their religious views for the Catholics and Fundamentalists?Perhaps the Catholics should change their view about the pope's infallability to agree with the members of other religions?
Hindus don't believe abortion is a sin and don't believe it is a human being until born, and Buddhists don't believe a child has a soul until it is 2 years old. So everyone has to adopt the Catholic and Fundamentalist view of when a child is human or when it has a soul?
- 3 years ago
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carmalite
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bwillis89
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I agree with the protestors. When a fetus is first developed, it has a beating heart. It is murder.
- 3 years ago
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bwillis89
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Numbz
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... How exactly is abortion rape?
- 3 years ago
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Numbz
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carmalite
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Numbz:
The person who is saying this is crazy. Obviously its not rape.
The anti-choice group could care less about that soul when it is born. - 3 years ago
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carmalite
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futurehempfarmer
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Numbz:
Well, rape results in pregnancy which then leads to abortion (in cases) therefore abortion must be rape.
- 3 years ago
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futurehempfarmer
