Obama Still Plans to Close Gitmo

Closing Gitmo and bringing the prisoners to US supermax prisons should not pose any threat to Americans because what AMERICA knows best is to keep prisoners in captivity.

Yes, he has claimed to put them into our most secure prisons, but this shows that he really has no clue about how to deal with these SOBs. He's already had to backpedal on it once before, and we'll will never be safe again from terrorist attacks under a wimp like Obama. Now let's hear from one of the KoolAde drinkers about what a wonderful plan this is to release these insurgents onto our shores. Hmmm......the silence is deafening!

Kilted put it the clearest - these f'ers are POW's, and until the hostilities aren't over in Afghanistan - we can't release them - and Gitmo is the best place to hold them. If these leftie nimrods need a legal basis - this is the best one!!! Allies did not release any Nazi soldiers until the end of the war - it's quite clear and justified.

As to your proverbial questions about the left - they really do hate your and my country - the great America. No, I am not beating my chest with phony patriotism - I really do love this country, all it stands for, freedoms it affords, with its strong military, with all the good and all the bad. But the left is strictily idealistic - they Marxist theories are misunderstood and have no place in the real world - yet they don't understand it and refuse to learn from history or even from current situations our friends find themselves in. So under this messiah - we find ourselves marching into a totalitarian socialism - with our constitution trampled by a Kenyan usurper of our presidency... WAKE THE FUCK UP - unless you're braindead!!!

Mr friggin genious. First week in office and he declares that he's closing Gitmo. No plan. No reason other than some far left goonies think we look bad to exemplar models of social justice like Iran, Cuba, Venezuala, and Russia, for extablishing a safe haven to hold terrorist combatants who threaten our safety and are mostly caught in battle. Now no one can come up with a viable solution to our atrocity. The reason there isn't a solution is because that was the best solution. What a dilemma. Transparency is here. It's transparent that Obama can't admit that anyone but he can come up with a good idea (even though we haven't seen a good idea from him yet).

"I will close Guantanamo."
"I will not close Guantanamo."
"I will probably close Guantanamo."
"There are problems with closing Guantanamo."
"We will probably have to close Guantanamo."
"There is no question that Guantanamo must be shut down."
"As soon as funding is approved, I will shut dowm Guantanamo."

"What do you think they do to the Bible?"

Do you really think this war anything to do with the Coran or the Bible?

Wake up.
Check out the links above & see, if you have that courage.

Well, the only thing I heard him say is what a great guy he is and how he is going to take care of this mess that is not his fault, nor his administrations fault, but someone else's fault but he will take care of it, because he is great and he...blah blah ..........ad nauseum..

What I don't understand is, aren't these guys POW's? And isn't Guantanamo a place where POW's are being held? Do we send back POW's before the war is over? When is a POW in legal limbo? I don't recall our POW's ever getting legal help. They take care of POW's in Iraq, al qaeda just kills them. But they don't torture. Do we pick and choose which ones are a national security risk and send the rest home? If they are not enemy combatants any more, what are they? I haven't heard anyone use that term for the detainees. POW's Maybe we should ask the detainees because it seems like they are running the show, they are the ones who claimed torture, they claimed they were mistreated and our wonderful media jumped on that story like stink on you know what. Why is anyone listening to the detainees? Since when does a prisoner control the prison and the prison's media? Bleeding heart media and liberals jumped on this story to discredit the past administration and the United States. When have we seen so much energy spent on discrediting a past administration and the military? I just heard from some idiot about how 911 was a set up by Bush so he could justify Iraq. Can you believe that? Yeah that is you noxidereus, because you are a nut case of a different sort. How can anyone be so stupid and how can anyone want to discredit Americans over some detainees who were captured shooting at our troops or laying IED'sfor the purpose of killing our sons and daughters and then our media gives them top billing. Don't take the word of our troops, no they probably lie, the detainees on the other hand don't lie. Amazing how anyone can think that way, must have an agenda. The POW's complained about someone stepping on the quran. Oh my Gawd, what will we ever do. What do you think they do to the Bible?

Why are there so many people so willing to discredit our country and our troops? What has gone wrong with this country and some of it's people? What do they want, total destruction of the United States? You would think not since they live here too. It isn't moral high ground, because a moral person would not try to discredit their own country for some POW. And neither would a moral person choose to ignore our fallen men and women in Germany so as to avoid hurting the German's feelings. Wow, it boggles my mind.

"We do not want these terrorists in our courts or in our jails"

[If you don't want them in court you have no right to jail them so how can you criticize getting them out of Guantanmo, where they were held abusively?]

Sorry but you're a very ignorant person. It's not completely your fault, you've been told they were terrorists and it has been repeated to you since 2001.

But:
- the Talibans were financed by your money & your govt, created from A to Z with the help of the ISI, the Pakistani secret service. Your CIA paid and they created crazy fanatics to combat the Russians in Afghanistan.
Incidentally, your govt multiplied the culture of opium by 10 in 10 years (UN figures) when it of course claimed it was stopping it. That's right, your filthy war was financed with Heroin. Lorries arrived loaded with weapons & went back the other way loaded with opium, only to be 'refined' in neighbouring countries. The CIA would then assist with the selling as they 'assisted' with the weapon supplies.
So these nasty so-called terrorists, if they are terrorists at all in there, are the direct result of your own govt.
Do you know that, on the advice of a French General, Reagan started sprinkling heroin over the Russian troops in Afghanistan?

The terrorists & drug dealers, my friend, are your govt & the people who finance govt after govt: the private bankers of the US Federal Reserve.

- 9/11 is why these ppl are qualified as terrorists. Yet at best a few real terrorists were manipulated & unknowingly assisted by the Bush administration...and at worst the Bush administration is totally responsible for the whole thing.
That's pretty much proven, i think. Denied, maybe, but fairly obvious for anyone not too patridiotic & gullible.

- The 19 supposed terrorists in the planes were immediately identified through DNA right after the tours went down. Yet the rubble was so fine that the smallest pieced of anything was tiny & certainly no complete bodies were found. Anyway, that would suppose that the authorities already had the DNA so they could compare them, and that is not only ludicrous it just wasn't the case.
Add to that that many of these 'terrorists' are still alive and working and have come out to officially say so, and you'd really have to be in a very irrational mood to give any credit to the list of 'hijackers' at all.

- Bush put them there, without a trial, and Bush is a known liar. His administration lied over 935 ON THE RECORD about the weapons of mass destruction, which is the same thread as the terrorists & 9/11 and has been clearly disproven. The man cannot be trusted about anything, he has proven that himself.
To believe his lies is to believe these men are terrorists.

The true terrorists are the Bush administration, who terrorised the people with what was for anyone who dares to look at the facts a FALSE FLAG OPERATION or an inside job, if you prefer.

Here are a few sites that will help you retrieve yourself from your ignorance, hopefully.

All the best,
RickD

The true patriots are here. You seem to me like you're collaborating with the ennemies of America through your gullibility and ignorance.
http://patriotsquestion911.com/

Reopen the investigation & do it properly this time:
http://www.reopen911.org/

Documentaries on how terror is used by govts to assert their power over the people:
http://www.kokomotion.com/TWH/docs/war.html

Operation Northwoods: declassified false flag operation not unsimilar to September 11 to be carried out in 1962:
http://www.google.com.mx/search?as_q=operation+northwoods&hl=fr&num=10&a...

His defensive posturing demonstrates his frustration when he is not given the automatic/autocratic pass of his executive orders. It would make sense for President Obama to make executive orders after he has thought it through. Impulse decisions render him in situations at which he now finds himself.

Forget about your messiah Obama for a second. We do not want these terrorists in our courts or in our jails - they'd only be inciting the already disillussioned inmates there - converting them to their evil ways. Congress recognizes this, and most people do as well. Obama is pandering to the extreme left by continuing to push this issue. He broke enough campaign promisses already - why not just leave this one alone. Best thing would be to send them back to Afghanistan and give them over to their law enforcement - but they are not wanted there. If we did that, they would pray for the heaven it is to live in Guantanamo, compared to what could await them in Afghani jail system. Bush had in fact released the less dangerous of the bunch - and 40% of those released took up arms for Taliban and Al Queda again - most have been killed since. So if the remaining bunch are more hard-core - then 80% or more would take up arms against us - so let's not bring them here - else your messiah would be endangering this country and our national security. As for our enemies becoming our friends - dude, wake the fuck up. Unless you are ready to start praying to Allah, it ain't happening!!! What is wrong with the naive liberal ilk - which part of Islamofascist hatred don't they get?

"Why do taxpayers have to continue to burden the cost of these people?"

Gee, how irrelevant is that...come on.
It's hardly the issue here, is it. You sound like you're blaming them, jesus these people are probably not even real terrorists, after all the whole 9/11 thing was a scam, the real terrorists were at the White House for God's sake, isn't that kinda obvious by now?

And if you're so worried about paying tax, well don't. The IRS is illegal and unconstitutional, there is no law to say that you have to pay income tax.

No need to thank me for the info. ;-)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&q=America%3A+Fr...

Like any Obama speech...it's enough to motivate and make you feel like nothing but good lies ahead; but where's the details? What does he plan to do with these people? Put them through the US court system and then into US prisons? Why do taxpayers have to continue to burden the cost of these people?

He also fails to mention that a majority of the detainees were released during the Bush years. And what happened to the "not blaming anyone, only focused on the future" lines he's repeated over and over?

"A misguided experiment", haha.

Why does this guy sound like a bad actor?

I must be ignorant but how does it cost money to stop running a facility?

And why does all the attention get focused on Guantanamo? There are loads of other prisons elsewhere, in Eastern Europe, for example, but basically anywhere the US Army is occupying, which is virtually everywhere. By occupying i mean has a base. You may think that the US does not occupy these countries but its influence is massive. Having a base in a country is like a permanent warning to shut the f*ck up & do as you are told.

Finally, he is showing some courage of conviction in the face of adversity.

Obama is restoring legitimacy to our legal system. He respects the rule of law and the rights of those being detained. How is that leading our country into downfall?

A perfectly rational speech to retort the irrational arguments against closing Guantanamo.

Well written. Well delivered. Now let's close the place up, give the land back to the Cubans and work towards a new generation where our enemies have become our friends.