South Africa: Shoot To Kill

i agree with it... more people die in s.a from violent murders that being caught in a cross fire?? not saying its justifyied and that policing isent corrupt... to say a loved one was killed.. would you rather them killed violently by criminals or caught in cross fire with police trying to combat the criminals??

That said, from around 39:50 is a part that few of us understand. Why people who clearly already struggle to survive, need to pay to be able to trade or have their livelihood taken apart.

Gladly, now this is a case of black vs. black or coloureds vs. coloureds. Don't keep blaming apartheid. Democracy works until either the government can buy the people or the people can buy the government. In this case, the people would not buy the government.

I was born in South Africa and grew up here. I noticed that the request for violent response to criminal violence is eventually thrown back to that Apartheid-character. Don't you think that after sixteen years of "Peace! Freedom! and Demoncrazy for All!!!" that someone at some point would have noticed the lack of "Justice for all?"

Apartheid is dead a thing of the past - unless some criminal can prove (and they sure do!) that his/her/their "constitutional rights" were trampled.

All they do is jump back on the "victim of the system" wagon. I'd say after sixteen years, and with enough "previously disadvantaged persons" who made it big without resorting to crime, Apartheid should have a rest. He has died enough times already.

But it is a good excuse for people to refuse to take up their responsibilies.

I'm from NY and moved to South Africa in 2009 for the year. Although I lived in an affluent white area, I had friends from the black and coloured townships in Cape Town. I saw more crime in the 12 months while I was there than I have my entire life. The crime is due to the gangs and drugs, as shown in this documentary. However, people are blaming the government and the police department when it is clear that both groups are not doing enough to solve he problem. So the real issue is that the people who live in these townships feel hopeless, and resort to ganglife. What needs to be fixed are the problems in education. During Apartheid, which ended 1994, the blacks were taught under the Bantu education, which forbid students to learn Science and Maths. Although Apartheid is over, the teachers in the township schools are all products of Bantu education. Therefore students are getting a poor education, which essentially causes them to drop out, and join a gang. The small percentage that make it to college only have a 9% chance of graduating college. The education system is terrible and de-motivating. Additionally, there are not enough organizations in South Africa that give the youth the opportunity to develop a skill or a talent. In my numerous visits to the townships, I have not seen any basketball courts, skate parks, art centers, or studios. South Africa has a ton of money, but it is not being disbursed in the right places. It is sad, and there needs to be more of an effort to give the youth the opportunity to develop skills. There needs to be after-school programs that keeps kids off the streets. Feel free to send me a personal e-mail if you would like to continue this discussion. caserta.c@gmail.com.

The thought of having the police return to methods that were used during apartheid is a very scary one. The problem with STK is that it will be abused both by criminals and police; criminals have nothing to lose and police often abuse power when it's given them. This was an intriguing, in-depth report of the STK issue; one that gave more than just the governmental point of view. There needs to be a huge shift in SA in order to gain control of its criminals, but I'm not so sure STK is the answer.

congrats ! a difficult reality i never imagine...

very interesting.