Israel considers military option for Iran nukes
source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080807/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_striking_iran_6
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Such talk could be more threat than reality. However, Iran's refusal to accept Western conditions is worrying Israel as is the perception that Washington now prefers diplomacy over confrontation with Tehran.
The Jewish state has purchased 90 F-16I fighter planes that can carry enough fuel to reach Iran, and will receive 11 more by the end of next year. It has bought two new Dolphin submarines from Germany reportedly capable of firing nuclear-armed warheads — in addition to the three it already has.
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In my opinion, any attack on Iran will complicate the worlds markets since the price of oil will triple causing even more people in desperate parts of the world will die of starvation. War seems selfish to the extent of not putting the equation together in its entirety. Speaking of an equation, what about the fact that Israel is allowed to have nukes? And still hide the fact. (If you forgot, it's against certain laws to have nukes, and Israel never received permission)
So why is Israel so nervous about Iran? Some translators say Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map," while others say a better translation would be "vanish from the pages of time" — implying Israel would disappear on its own rather than be destroyed.
Lost in translation?..Maybe. I'd like to find out. But getting back to the saber rattling from Israel, if they do do a preemptive attack on Iran, Israel may just start their own holocaust again for their people without even realizing it. They may start a holocaust for the whole world considering the broad ramifications, especially the worlds economic balance. .
My suggestion...believe Iran is using the technology for what they say, Israel set up a counter defense, and keep a close eye on things...but mostly, make way for a diplomatic relationship and make efforts for peace. The one thing being, give the Palestinian people back some, or most of their land...free Palestine. It's pretty clear and understood by the International community and governments that Israel is acting against many laws by taking (stealing) their land. Give it back...THAT, my friends is the major key to Peace in the mid east.
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keeshii768
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That's enough Israel..
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keeshii768
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Hawkmang
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How nice that Obama and McCain both have nothing but love and "unconditional" support for Israel. *sarcasm*
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Hawkmang
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AntiFacistCanuck
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Israel is nobody's ally. They are the major country that carries out espionage activities in the USA. Remember the USS Liberty, for crying out loud.
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AntiFacistCanuck
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Tgarius
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I guess you just don't get it, none of that matters, The fact is that Iran wants to be rid of Israel and Israel is our Ally, the way the time table is looking now sanctions will probably not work and Israel will feel that they have no option other then trying to take out Iran’s nuclear capability. What will matter is what we do!!
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Tgarius
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Magnitude06
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Okay quick question...........Who in the hell said Israel could have Nuclear weapons? In fact aren't they in volation to have nuclear weapons? Oh and they want to basically fight Iran because their in fear of Iran getting nukes and possibly using them on them. But why would Iran do that against Israel.......hmmmmmmm It wouldn't happen to be the nearly 60 years of Occupation of the land where the native people are having their homes destroyed, forced to relocate, denied access to medical attention, forced into a "BERLIN WALL" state where movement is limited, kids are being killed.(over 816 Palestinians/119 Israelis from 2001-2007.)
Im just sayin..............from a American point of view why in the hell are they using AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS TO DO THIS AND WE THE DUMMIES ACT AS IF WE ARE OKAY WITH THIS. OUR KIDS ARE DYING OF POOR SCHOOLS, LOST JOBS, HIGH GAS PRICES, RECESSION ETC. But we get pimped by our senators and presidents that vow to do what ever the F they want.
This shit is depressing!!!!!!! Wake Up
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Magnitude06
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agitator
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2008 and we are still shooting at each other to resolve conflicts. Brilliant!!!! Glad to see wisdom is prevailing
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agitator
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Bren589
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Its just a shame that all this BS has to go on in the world...
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Bren589
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chapter12
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"ironic" would not suffice to describe how if it were not for the corruption of the current israeli leadership, israel would probably be better suited to back up its threats of military force..
"ironic" WOULD, however, beautifully describe how shaul mofaz, one of the loudest proponents for an israeli attack on iran, is actually an iranian himself who needs no translation of ahmadinejad's comments on the fate of israel..
israel operates on a balance of transgression and manipulation.. in short: screw over everyone while claiming to play the victim..
they will continue their behavior as it has brought them much success at the expense of those who are fooled.. but just as all things that go against nature, zionism will eventually bring about its own demise.. whether it comes as the result of today's israeli oppression.. or in the form of reactions to transgressions of tomorrow..
peace
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chapter12
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Tgarius
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I've posted many comments on this, I believe it is just a matter of time before Israel attacks Iran. I do not see any other option for them considering what’s going on in the US right now, they can not afford to wait until Iran is capable of taking them out. The next question is what will our Government do, back up our ally or pander to Iran. I'm sure it depends on who is President.
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Tgarius
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Bandgeek89
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I wish the solution of the Iran nuclear problem was as simple as just sit back and watch' I would just like to know what we do when they have a nuke and threaten to use it or maybe they give it to Al-Qaeda or another terrorist organization. i don't think this country can handle another addition to the wars we already have going on in the middle east, but we need to back Israel they are our allies. Its the right thing to do.
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Bandgeek89
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Tommyjolly
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Here we go! :-/
How ridiculous is that?
Take the nuclear weapons of both of them and tell them to finally shut up.Like children, only worse... tz
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Tommyjolly
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linebacker51
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one things for sure irans leader is a nut and hates isreal and in a region with such a long history of conflict and war bringing more nukes into the equation is a recipe for destruction.
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linebacker51
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Mark701
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Israel should be the LAST country to condemn Iran for having nukes given that Israel has 200 of them AND would use them if they felt sufficiently threatened.
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Mark701
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regularrf
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There will never be a nuclear war we are smarter than that please stop making the younger people paranoid
when I was younger the same shit over and over WW3
we are ruining their lives like they did mine. Give the human race more credit than you extremists are shut up. - 3 years ago
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regularrf
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GeoffNI
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Israel has more of a secular society. People are more Israeli than Jewish. Well in Tel Aviv anyway. Israel has two faces.
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GeoffNI
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VeritasNegotiator
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What do you think would happen if they don't take threats like that seriously? " If the Arabs disarm there would be peace in the Middle East, if Israel disarms there would be no more Israel". They are just acting in their best interest, or could everyone do without a strong ally in the Middle East?
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VeritasNegotiator
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maasanova
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Israel has nukes and has attacked and invaded Lebanon. Peace in the middle east begins with a nuclear disarmament of Israel.
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maasanova
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josol
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There are more nukes in that region pointed to Iran than any other country in the world... US trident subs...Iraq,Afghanistan,Russian and of course Israel. Iranians would be baked into petrified statues if they made any move on any country... especially Israel.
If everyone is so religious in that region....Christian,Jew and of course Muslim maybe we should all disarm and declare nuclear weapons are crime against GOD. Aren't they? It seems like the Buddhists...who don't even talk about God are the only true non-violent group.
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josol
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rightbrain
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josol:
(applause)
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rightbrain
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reddragon3668
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I think that the US is going to always be suspect in the Middle East as long as our policy towards Israel is biased and without equity. I also agree that Israel needs to think of itself as a member of the international community and realize that their actions affect us all. Of course, I guess they are just following the US lead who acts often with unilateral interest only.
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reddragon3668
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iPublishBooks
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WRECK CREATION
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iPublishBooks
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rightbrain
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Israel is only acting in their best interest. Though the opinion of the Iranian people differs from the rhetoric of their government, claiming you're going to wipe a country off the map, cannot be ignored.
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rightbrain
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Bookshepherd
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More shenanigans in the Middle East that the present U.S. administration is too impotent to address adequately... let's just hope cooler heads prevail until a new president can lead the necessary negotiations...
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Bookshepherd
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AntiFacistCanuck
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And then the new invention of running the worlds cars on water makes the whole point of ME dominance moot, and all the Semites go back to happily scratching each other's camel fleas and farting in the sunshine while gossipping outside the 'gogue/mosque under a Palestinian sky.
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AntiFacistCanuck
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NoGodsNoMasters
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Why is it that the Iranian government keeps saying that they have no interest in going to war with Isreal and the West and then you have Isreal only ever talking about bombing Iran but we are calling the Iranians terrorists?
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NoGodsNoMasters
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Flying_Camel
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NoGodsNoMasters:
What your saying is plain wrong.
Iran do say that they have an interest in going to war with the west, and Israel doesn't ONLY speak about bombing Iran but also about diplomatic actions. I guess you just listen to what you want to hear and there is no chance to change your mind. - 3 years ago
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Flying_Camel
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Vierotchka
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NoGodsNoMasters:
Blatant lies, Flying_Camel - shameful, blatant lies. Happily, you're fooling only yourself.
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Vierotchka
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GeoffNI
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NoGodsNoMasters:
Iran have made it very clear that there missiles can reach any Target in Israel and as far was the UK. Anti-American and Anti-Israel slogans are written on Iranian Missiles, when they are praded around Tehrain.
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GeoffNI
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Saladin
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NoGodsNoMasters:
You mean the tests that took place AFTER Israel did its missile show?
Please, Israel is the aggressor nation here.
But I'm sure, being the Israel drone that you are, that you have an excuse for that too.
And for the killing of reporters and protesters and for the bombing of Lebanon and for dozens of other incidents which show, clear as day, that Israel could give a fuck about peaceful relations.
When are people gonna realize that both sides are utterly full of shit?
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Saladin
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Vierotchka
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Haredi Jews that are protesting against Israel, explaining that there isn't a Muslim-Jewish conflict but an Israel-Palestine conflict.
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Vierotchka
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GeoffNI
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Vierotchka:
It appears you know nothing about Zionism and Zionists. Iam guessing you educate yourself from likeminded people that believe the Elders of Zion is the rule book for Jews.
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GeoffNI
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka:
The Protocol of the Elders of Zion is a fraud. I base myself on what prominent Zionists have said, written, and done.
I am of Jewish descent.
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Vierotchka
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Flying_Camel
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Vierotchka:
You might be of jewish descent but still don't know enough about Zionism. Those Haredim are but a minority that represent not even 5% of the Jewish opinion, its like I'll say something bad about Christianity because of a few radical fanatics.
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Flying_Camel
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka:
They are far from being the only ones. Zionism is evil.
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Vierotchka
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rightbrain
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Vierotchka:
In fact, the Protocol of the Elders of Zion is a fraud. It was produced as propaganda by twisted Russians.
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rightbrain
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GeoffNI
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Vierotchka:
Yes Fraud but now one of the biggest selling books in London, England. Also many newsagents carry Arabic Editions
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GeoffNI
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rightbrain
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Vierotchka:
Yeah, unfortunately there's no shortage of ignorance and paranoia.
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rightbrain
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PaliNadia
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I say boycott Israel! They have roughly 100 to 200 nuclear weapons.
So who should be scared of who? Israel seems like the bigger threat.
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PaliNadia
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GeoffNI
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PaliNadia:
Who else do you plan to boycott, or are you just that anti-Israel you want to boycott them alone?
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GeoffNI
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Vierotchka
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PaliNadia:
Boycott the root of the problem - Israel and the USA.
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Vierotchka
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Robroy1
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If Israel strikes Iran, which I doubt, they had better be ready for retribution. Iran is also capable of retaliation far beyond the helpless Palestinians that Israel kill on a daily basis, or even lebanon who sent the terrorists packing back home. Israel owns refineries in America and can profit from this propaganda by ratteling sabres. I hope they are not greedy enough and dumb enough to attack Iran. If Israel would get rid of its nukes it might have a chance but even then I think they are hated enough in the mid east that they would still face attack by the Arabs whose land they have taken illegally.
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Robroy1
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GeoffNI
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This is my problem. How can the State of Israel exist and no Zionist government? Zionism is the belief of a homeland for Jews in Palestine once part of the Israel Kingdom.
I also understand some of the comments of Iran have not been translated correctly. And many time he is speaking of the government in power. But when they chant Death to Israel at the end of speech what are they talking about and don't gave me Zionism as an answer. Either there talking about the State of Israel or all Jews because they are Spiritual Israel
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GeoffNI
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Vierotchka
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GeoffNI:
If you knew anything about Zionism and Zionists, you'd realize that it is profoundly racist and encourages anti-Semitism. It is an evil ideology which exploits religion for its own ends.
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Vierotchka
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GeoffNI
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GeoffNI:
Answer my question which I asked please. What context are Iranians using when chanting Death to America, Death to Israel?
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GeoffNI
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Saladin
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GeoffNI:
So we should attack everyone that wishes death on us? That is of course, assuming that their entire population feels that way and not just some people in a video.
I've had enough of this preemptive war shit.
Iran is a paper tiger, get a clue.
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Saladin
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Abamanation
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GeoffNI:
No you shouldnt have to attack everyone that threatens you with death .... but you should put yourself on a footing for a pre-emptive strike should they decide to act on their threats.
Quite honestly I agree with Israel. Right now its all just posturing. The only thing that gives it credibility is Israel's history of talking big and when they get shoved they turn around and kick you in the balls 2 or 3 times.
That policy right there is one of the main reasons why Israel still exists.
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Abamanation
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Flying_Camel
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Ohhhh... The zionist regime... that makes me feel so much better. So Israel will stay on the map but the "zionists" won't control it... Well then where will me and my 5 million other Jewish friends live? Maybe you want to exile us to the moon?
By the way, The Zionist regime is the only democratic regime in the middle east. Or, are you against democracy?
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Flying_Camel
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PaliNadia
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Flying_Camel:
So you are admitting you are a Zionist? Good, you are getting somewhere now.
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PaliNadia
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Vierotchka
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Flying_Camel:
You can live where you came from - it is only a microscopic minority of Jews that stem from Judea, after all, and they are no Zionists.
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm
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Vierotchka
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PaliNadia
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Flying_Camel:
Exactly, Vierotchka!
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PaliNadia
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Vierotchka
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Flying_Camel:
Flying_Camel, Israel is by no means the only democratic regime in the Middle East - witness Lebanon, Algeria, Tunisia, Turkey, among others. They may not be liberal democracies, but they are democracies nonetheless.
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Vierotchka
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Flying_Camel
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Flying_Camel:
HAHA!!! Lebanon is a democracy???
LOL!!!
Thats much like Iraq is a democracy right now
Much like I'll point a gun to your head and tell you who to vote for...
And Algeria, Tunisia have not a lot of role in the Mideast political arena.
Turkey however does have a big role and guess whose side they are on
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Flying_Camel
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Vierotchka
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Flying_Camel:
Turkey is on its own side. You had a point? I merely proved you wrong, your response is moot.
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Vierotchka
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GeoffNI
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Flying_Camel:
And do they all have press freedom. You watch IDF soilders. Nothing is hiding. How many Hizbullah Soliders have you seen in battle? No Press Freedom in many Arab States.
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GeoffNI
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Abamanation
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Flying_Camel:
I guess that it was lost in translation when Imadumbshitajad said that the holocaust did not occur and was made up to garner pity for the Jews.
Oh and Turkey like most other countries have their own interests but they are allied with the US.... Though our current Speakwhore of the House Pelosi is doing all she can to sabotage that.
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Abamanation
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Vierotchka
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"Some translators say Iran called for Israel to be "wiped off the map," while others say a better translation would be "vanish from the pages of time" —"
Yes, the first "translation" is completely wrong. Furthermore, it is the Zionist régime which "will vanish from the pages of time" and not Israel - big difference.
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Vierotchka
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GeoffNI
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I remember 5 or 6 years ago watching a television programme, where Christian "Prophets" were speaking about the future of America and Israel. And they said watch the world enrage against Israel when there is an Oil Crisis. I see those words coming to pass. Because I believe Israel will not stand by. They took out Saddam's nuclear plans in 81, Syria's plans in 07 and will attempt to cause a set back in Irans plans. As for Israel being paranoid, Iran is actively supplying Hizbollah with weapons and technology to use against Israel. Only a matter of time before Iran strikes or passes techology on to Lebanon or Syria.
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GeoffNI
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clayjj05 [removed]
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Hit em fast and Hit em hard
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clayjj05 [removed]
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Abamanation
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clayjj05:
And then when your done .... hit em again just for good measure.
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Abamanation
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Wessagusset_Oracle
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keep it up Israel and America, some day Iran will consider nuclear option for Israeli military. . .
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Wessagusset_Oracle
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WorldPeaceTV
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a cool peace song and message from a good friend of the Beatles
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WorldPeaceTV
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WorldPeaceTV
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Destroy all money, it'll eliminate crime
Greed and Selfsihness with the grimeNo more armies no more wars and muggings
too bad societies are based on moniesWe need to share equally earths resources
Equalize people and natures forcesOnly then we will then realize when
We destroyed our planet
and brought the world to an end - 3 years ago
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WorldPeaceTV
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Vierotchka
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WorldPeaceTV:
I was wearing that symbol more than 40 years ago already - it is the logo of the CND - the Committe for Nuclear Disarmament. I still wear it today.
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Vierotchka
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WorldPeaceTV
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WorldPeaceTV:
YES! Thats where the symbol came from...a wonder today...alot of teens have no ida what this symbol is..either way...peace or the disarmament!
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WorldPeaceTV
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Saladin
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Isn't it great to have an ally who helps us win elections with religious nonsense?
I guess the fact that they never act in our interest is a small price to pay.
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Saladin
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huntre
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From GWB's lips to Mofaz's mouth, I'd say.
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huntre
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huntre:
Exactly so...the USA has taken a "Diplomatic" stance so Israel can show their sword. It would look bad if both countries did not give Iran a diplomatic outlet. If it does come to war, you can bet your bottom dollar the USA will be right there. Then the oil companies can make another killing (pun intended) and the politicians can stuff their pockets while making people all over the world suffer.
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Be prepared for the lobby to chime in on this. Their arguments are full of holes (and dog crap). Their government hopefully sees the light and makes a better move for peace. Irans potential is no joke if they are pulled into a war...and the poor innocent Israeli people are going to pay dearly for their governments greed and thievery.
Free Palestine NOW! - 3 years ago
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WorldPeaceTV
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maasanova
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What nukes? Why is the government of Israel making it's people so paranoid and driving up the price of oil with this BS?
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maasanova
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maasanova:
The government isn't making me paranoid
Its the words of Ahmidi Najad that Israel should be wiped off the map that concerns me
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Flying_Camel
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WorldPeaceTV
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maasanova:
I don't blame you Flying Camel....BUT, it's may be a translation error if you read the post up there....I've seen this type of error before and it can cause lots of concern like you have. Maybe we should really research this more...we'd need the exact transcript in their language and then bring it to several translators...
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WorldPeaceTV
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bluestranger
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This is not going to be fun. It looks like this whole region is a powder keg and everybody that can get their hands on a match is trying strike it. I hate to say it but this situation looks bad for everyone. We should probably take a collective breath and try to work this issue out. Has anyone ever heard of the Doomsday Clock?
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bluestranger
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jubal
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Pure insanity, that is what has infected the Israeli government.
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jubal
