Politics As Fashion
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NDknow
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I would have to agree with the statement in the video that when artists and musicians wear a Che shirt its pretty silly, simply because back in the day Che was big on censorship..here is a video the elaborates this point further... http://reason.tv/video/show/killer-chic
- 2 years ago
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NDknow
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Mobius2012
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I have yet to wear the Scarf, and I have never worn either a Bob Marley shirt or a Che Guevara shirt, but I've read about him.....:)
- 2 years ago
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Mobius2012
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LaReinaRouge
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One of my favorite pods. It shows you how vacuous most Americans are. It's a really big trend in my area.
- 2 years ago
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LaReinaRouge
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Denica_Cassandra
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What about the media Only talking about fashion instead of politics? If I have to hear one more drivel story about Mrs. Obama's dresses instead of what is really happening in the world, I don't even know! ah!
As far as fashion being a conscious decision, I agree to an extent but if you have other things going on in your life, your Rachel-Ray scarf might not be the first blip on your radar in the morning. lol wow - 3 years ago
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Denica_Cassandra
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erictbloom
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I honestly already wanted a Keffiyeh although after seeing this on television this I decided to finally attain a Keffiyeh of my own. I must admit I do wear it for the purpose of fashion, but I was originally sold by the political message it comes with.
I am not Muslim nor middle eastern but I am extremely tired of and very much annoyed by any persons whom even relatively display a ignorantly biased negative judgment towards either of them. They good people with some inspiring moral values, and stereotyping the entire middle east as terrorists because of several extremist radical groups is not only completely and utterly absurd but is an immensely disgracing humiliation for the United States.
Consequently, I personally support as well as encourge the Keffiyeh trend in hope to open the minds of such persons by showing how ther culture is easily capable of making such a large impact on their own.
- 3 years ago
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erictbloom
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BooksBrown
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What you wear says something about who you are...most of the time, i'm nothing...but my most recent pod is quite something...it mixes hip hop fashion sense with a green streak...please peep it, light it up and comment.
thanks. - 3 years ago
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BooksBrown
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andeeandee
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I dont mind if those people wear those pieces as long as they know the meaning, or the story, behind those. Ignorance is stupid bliss. But actually, i would love to have one of those scarves.
- 3 years ago
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andeeandee
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reb2550
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i have a keffiyeh...not as a fashion trend..but to symbolize that everyone is equal no matter what race or religion
- 3 years ago
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reb2550
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ch2o
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all this has been done before back in the late 60's early 70's. Lets get originalll
- 3 years ago
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ch2o
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khromadjo
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I will say that while I abhor fashion in the mainstream cultural sense of trying to 'belong', it's still their right (at least at the moment) through freedom of expression to wear whatever they want.
- 3 years ago
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khromadjo
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jam7345
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i do agree w/ A ABEID, WHEN YOU MAKE A CREATION OR A STATEMENT, AND THE STAMENT BECOMES LOST AND YOUR STATEMENT BECOMES "OTHER THEN" OR AN AFTER THOUGH, IT IS FRUSTRATING, IT IS A DOUBLE EDGE SWORD IN MY OPINION. LIKE HE EXPLAINS, IT IS A CONSUMER CULTURE, AND IF YOU MAKE SOMTHING PPL ENJOY, AND YOU HAVE SOME COMMON BOUND WITH PPL/NEXT GENERATION, WHY NOT SHARE IT AND EMBRACE IT.
WWW.CASHMERETHOUGHT.BLOGSPOT.COM
- 3 years ago
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jam7345
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Bookdragon
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I wonder how many people would be wearing '"fashion" if they had to pay with their lives for it? Political statements mean that you will be able to defend your position, not that it "makes me look cool."
- 3 years ago
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Bookdragon
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RebelutionorDie
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Best line " He fought against the capitalist movement"
ain't that the truth...
by the way Carluccio I've featured your video on my blog
miaalien.wordpress.com - 3 years ago
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RebelutionorDie
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TheCyclist
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That's a great little package. Who would have thought that a quick photo of Che snapped at a funeral would have turned into that? My little sister used to have a Che shirt, and she had no clue what it meant.
The best (or worst?) was when I saw a pair of Che boxer shorts. The ultimate irony of a man who fought against capitalist ideas is now a commodity in the most consumerist nation in the world.
- 3 years ago
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TheCyclist
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Shawnc2k
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If iconic political images or statements are turned into fashion merchandise, it is no different or better than when Time/Life or some other high profile commercial entity puts out a best of music CD or DVD... the orginal message or intent is lost.
The best examples of this are the 60's symbols such as the peace symbol, the happy face, the flower power stickers, the keep truckin guys...all of these things started in counter culture movements but once commercialized lost all meaning or impact.
- 3 years ago
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Shawnc2k
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imagism31
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...In some parts of "the hood" a certain color or style of clothing can get you murdered. Do we want to wear Nike's just cause we think their a top line sports shoe, or because the represent an inner city gang? Do a little research on the clothes you wear, you'd be surprised at what you find...
- 3 years ago
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imagism31
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Deus_ex_machina
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Tools tools tools
- 3 years ago
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Deus_ex_machina
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Mafioso
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Miss_Niss, I think the point of this piece is, that those two examples (Che and the Keffiyeh) are symbols of revolutionary movements that changed the scene and scope of the world. If you do not know what they mean or stand for, it is not a fashion faux paus, it is a disgrace to your knowledge of world events and history.
You are looking at it from a fashion pov, and I think that is the point of this piece. People get more wrapped up in fashion and how something looks on them (commercialism), rather than caring about other things like world affairs, and foreign nations histories.
If we had a better understanding of other countries, their histories, maybe we would not be so quick to think of ourselves as the most important people in the world (Americans, I mean). Sure other countries youths may not know what it means either, but I can bet their percentage of people who do not know would be amongst those youth that are unable to attend schooling. The percentage in the US is practically amongst the entire youth of our nation. None seem to know about these symbols and their relevance to history.
The fact you know more about fashion (not sure if you do though, you obviously go based off trends) than history, is the point of this piece. That is the sad but true point of this story. Our youth cares more about a fucking pattern matching their clothing or looking cool rather than being educated in more important things and issues.
- 3 years ago
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Mafioso
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miss_niss
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Mafioso:
Mafioso,
Firstly, I take your point, being ignorant is a *bad thing*, and I'm not trying to defend people who are so culturally self-absorbed that can't even point out where other countries are on a map or think 'Africa' is a country (ie youtube 'chasers war on everything americans').Do I know more about fashion than I do about history, well gee that made me laugh out loud. The scary thing is, and doubtless you won't believe me, but I majored in archaeology and history at uni. And I don't usually consider myself to be an ignorant person (i live in australia and not america if thats even slightly redeeming). But apparently I don't know everything. That doesn't mean i don't care about other people's struggles or important world events. I just can't know everything. Not knowing and not caring are two different things, and I think the first is the lesser crime.
In a totally differnt rant, I really hate left-wing student politicians who wear che shirts. I'm sure they'd really love their revolutionary hero if they actually lived in Cuba and experienced the regime. Not to mention that the t-shirt represents the consumer culture Che despised.
- 3 years ago
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miss_niss
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miss_niss
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Meaning is subjective, to someone who knows about the significance of the scarf in the arab world wearing it is politically significant, but should we really condemm someone for seeing it in a shop and buying it because they like the pattern or the colour? How is the casual consumer supposed to know these things? The scarves are not marketed as a political statement in trendy shops like Sportsgirl. I haven't worn one, but until this I had no idea they were anything than just this season's latest scarf style.
- 3 years ago
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miss_niss
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TrendLover
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great great great
thanks for this.
i frequently visit non-English speaking countries a-talk about not knowing what you're wearing. You should see some of the texts on their shirts. embarassing....! - 3 years ago
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TrendLover
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Mark88
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Dunkin Donuts Pulls Ad Featuring Rachael Ray In A Scarf That Looks Too Arab:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/28/dunkin-donuts-pulls-ad-fe_n_103859.html
- 3 years ago
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Mark88
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Knivestoyou
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Viva la decadence.
Viva la Corporate cool. - 3 years ago
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Knivestoyou
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dopeswan
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"By the way they wear it, I know who they are." That's the best quote from the piece.
It is vital to society on a whole that we become more knowledgeable of ALL politically, socially and culturally oppressed people worldwide. Not just fall victim to "fashion".
The greatest billboards we have are our bodies and if we can't answer who that is on our chest or what this statement means that we have written on our arms, we are playing ourselves.
I have been waiting for someone to do a piece on this topic. It is both timely and impactful.
"Teach the Babies"
(Are you willing to go out there and save the lives of our children, even it it means losing your own life?)
- 3 years ago
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dopeswan
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CleftAsunder
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Ill tell u this much!!! U would not see an Israeli wear that scarf. Y? cause they know what it means.
What can we do to get the sheep out of all of us?
Do you agree that the world would be better if the drones were converted to real people. And we tried to all live real lives. Cause at the end of the day, its all about the Real Deal!!!! Cc*
- 3 years ago
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CleftAsunder
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Mafioso
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I don't wear things because other people wear them. I wear things because I like them, they are comfortable, practical, or I can use them for multiple purposes. Anytime I wear something to make a "statement", I don't expect others to pick up on it, I don't even expect people to know what it stands for. I know what it stands for and why I'm wearing it and that's all that matters to moi.
- 3 years ago
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Mafioso
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Sapho
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Mafioso:
Nice post. Peace,
- 3 years ago
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Sapho
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Sapho
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Che's image represents change which is what most people desire these days. The poor/working class have always been the very foundation of this nation, and this foundation has been crumbling for many years now.
Che fought for the working class and he was against amoral capitalism which is on the verge of self-destruction. Lets try to 'change' the fact that the U.S has the highest poverty rate of any industrialized country. We dont have a national health care system, we have extreme high school drop-out rates, we have massive federal deficits, and let us fight the IRS loopholes that benefit corporations.
These are all ideals that Che fought for and you certaintly dont have to be a communist to make the necessary changes. - 3 years ago
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Sapho
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McGaspa
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I'm not opposed to what che's face stands for in modern times, but it seems like we could have picked a better symbol for revolution. Che was a socialist and murderer. Not only killed his own soldiers for fleeing, etc, he killed small children. Not cool Che supporters.
- 3 years ago
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McGaspa
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malathion
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in the next decade you'll see t-shirts here being sold on the street with the WTC towers under attack on them , and they'll be "edgy" .
- 3 years ago
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malathion
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Mobius2012
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It's not what you wear that distinguishes you it's what you think.....
- 3 years ago
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Mobius2012
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massavantgarde
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People will wear anything to be cool. Case in point, vintage style rock t-shirts. I once tried to strike up a conversation with a girl who was wearing one.
"Oh, so you like Led Zeppelin?" I asked.
"Yeah, he's my favorite!"
- 3 years ago
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massavantgarde
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Eri_Soulja
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I agree that people shouldn't wear them just for a fashion statement.. if you're gonna wear it, have a good meaning for it.
- 3 years ago
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Eri_Soulja
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reneelikeshugs
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I have a Che shirt that is slightly less perfect, image-wise, and below it says "art critic."
That is all.
- 3 years ago
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reneelikeshugs
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MizPiz
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reneelikeshugs:
That's pretty cool, where did you get it?
- 3 years ago
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MizPiz
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cinquanta5000
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Read some of the Che image debate here.
- 3 years ago
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cinquanta5000
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ichigo113
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Che Geuvara is a murderer and your tshirt is not cool.
- 3 years ago
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ichigo113
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cinquanta5000
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ichigo113:
check out the extended version (above)
- 3 years ago
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cinquanta5000
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Mafioso
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ichigo113:
Every revolutionary is a murderer or will be portrayed as one by the status quo.
- 3 years ago
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Mafioso
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Emil_G
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haha I didn't know that these scarfs were cool, I guess the trend hasn't hit the midwest yet.
- 3 years ago
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Emil_G
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rexmundi
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fashion is vapid, therefore cannot be a political statement. a political statement requires flesh and bone combined with action.
- 3 years ago
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rexmundi
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Ali_Apple
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i honestly don't like the idea that some people wear it just for fashion, like the whole che thing. when i wear something i want it to symbolize what i stand for and if i see someone else with similar style its my cue to make a new friend who may share similar views. its the same way with band t-shirts, if you go up to someone and talk to them about that band and they seem a little clueless, its a huge let down. for me, i like that the keffiyeh had a pretty liberal meaning to it for a while, i wish it would have continued to stay that way.
- 3 years ago
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Ali_Apple
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Mobius2012
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Ali_Apple:
They all look like idiots, following the herd......
- 3 years ago
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Mobius2012
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Mafioso
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Ali_Apple:
All the douchebags above only used the Keffiyeh after they were used in uber chic fashion shows, such as Balenciaga in '07, and the fashion shows used them after they started being used in Tokyo by fashionable youth who thought they went well with camouflage. Trends are such a bore, I prefer to be an individual with taste, than a drone who imitates.
- 3 years ago
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Mafioso
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PatrioticAstronaut
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Che? How about not promoting a communist terrorist?
- 3 years ago
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PatrioticAstronaut
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cinquanta5000
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PatrioticAstronaut:
Peep the original extended version (above). The CURRENT TV version slipped out that portion of the story.
- 3 years ago
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cinquanta5000
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2102512
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That is just an image. That is the image of a shell of a soul who did not believe in the individual.
Anybody who doesn't know doesn't need to know.
- 3 years ago
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2102512
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ohh_Donna
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i knew the the keffiyeh scarf stood for & i planned on owning one, despite how cute it is. but i just bought a keffiyeh over the weekend & used it as a blanket to lay on in central park because it was only $4. it'll remain my central park blanket. not a scarf.
& no.. i don't really have a point. - 3 years ago
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ohh_Donna
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salvatoreditaranto
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Great Pod John...
- 3 years ago
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salvatoreditaranto
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cinquanta5000
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Coup d'etat Brooklyn - Politically minded t-shirts
- 3 years ago
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cinquanta5000
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cinquanta5000
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The original extended version. ( more Che, more Keffiyeh)
- 3 years ago
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cinquanta5000
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RavagesOfTime
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Aren't the people in this pod, and I'm saying this as an intentional generalization, part of the problem?
- 3 years ago
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RavagesOfTime
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Eri_Soulja
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RavagesOfTime:
The people who wear the keffiyeh scarves and the che shirts simply for a fashion statement are the ones making the problem worse. Che Guevara was against materialism and that is exactly what they are doing. But the people who wear his shirts to support him and believe in what he did and what he stood for are doing right. And if you're going to wear a keffiyeh scarf have a meaning.. not just a fashion statement, it seems a little ignorant to me..
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Eri_Soulja
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Mafioso
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RavagesOfTime:
We're all part of the problem. I'm not sure there are such things as "good intentions".
- 3 years ago
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Mafioso
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Ali_Apple
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the keffiyeh has been around for a while in urban culture. im pretty sure the black and white ones stand for liberalism. i wear one for political reasons. the color may not matter though. i see trendy kids around my city and i have said "nice scarf whats it mean?" just seeing if they know... they always respond with "its my style... fashion". :[
- 3 years ago
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Ali_Apple
