Vatican warns of growing "Christianophobia"

I'm sorry...I swear I was invited to write my own thoughts...not what you want me to. I read these replies and so many of them are you telling someone they're off topic. AND!? Write what you'd like and I'll write what I like.

Again, wrong topic.

Subject: genocide. Read above.

That wasn't the topic of discussion.

Try reading the story. It's about hundreds of thousands culled. a genocide ...

I disagree.
Humans should be held responsible for what they do.

Thanks for that thoughtful statement. (smiles) Refreshing.

That was a really stupid comment.

Maybe he just really respects what you have to say as a fellow Current member.

Pedophile? I think not since your picture makes you appear to be in your late teens or early twenties and he appears to be in his late twenties or thirties.

You're not his only friend (he has 22) whereas you have none. Ice queen much?

And if he's stalking your posts because he likes them, then I'm stalking gcarlos92707's posts because I absolutely love all of the news he offers.

You also should not have made this an "announcement" to the public. If you really had a problem with the guy, then you should have contacted the staff to investigate it.

Grow up.

So does this justify the world wide genocide of 250,000 Christians a year?

Hey if it does, you probably wouldn't be against buying a Christian slave in Sudan. They are selling women and children for about $15 a person, sometimes less. They don't sell adult males, those are slain in front of their families.
More christians have been slain, imprisoned and enslaved this century than in the 2000 years before. Should we all assume that you think genocide is cool too?

Or are you living in ignorant bliss on the world situation?

I know what you mean. If some Christians would actually stop and think about what they are doing,and actually try to be christ-like, the world would be a little bit better place and give us a better name.

They are really talking about genocide. I think they referenced recent facts, just because people might identify with it.

In Pope Benedict's time this amount of human life was significant, and remember he actually saw the holocost, so no doubt this is haunting to see the genocide of billions of anyone of any faith.

In Iran .. from 02 to present...500,000 Christians slaughtered for breaking the law of not converting to Islam or the other way around, being Islamic and converting to being Christian.

That's interesting, but ... I hope you understand the problem is the genocide of hundreds of millions around the globe for one crime. being christian. They are being slain.

Yes, because the proper response to violence and intolerance is DEFINITELY more violence and intolerance. Good answer! /sarcasm

Wow. So someone filming this discusting act negates all the missionaries that often don't do anything but humaritian work, and those who go in the name of God and truly lead by example?

Wow. Are you easily fooled. More seeds. More political correctness.

Result.. you obliviously missed the fact that there is world wide genocide of hundreds of thousands of people for no reason other than their religion. Wow. aren't you proud?

Yes it does.

Well said..

Ride on!

You know throwing the word "sheeple" around doesn't make you some brilliant free-thinker, right?

How about posting an intelligent, dissenting opinion instead of simply trolling?

Better than the lame comments others are posting actually.

You say history justifies the genocide of Christians world wide today?

No sane person would say what sick men int he DARK AGES did under a flag of Christ is cool

But most people draw the line when it comes to history justifying genocide on a massive scale.

FYI: More Christians have been slain. enslaved and imprisioned this century than in 2k years combined.
Oh yeah and the 500,000 that died in Iran in the last few years for not converting to islam, yeah that was deserved too.

How about the christian slaves in Sudan? You cold buy one nice and legal for under $15. Of course they are women and children. The men are murdered.

But history says the genocide of 250,000 Christians a year is cool in your opinion?

Just checking. Genocide of Billions. But that's cool?

Hi.

Ok.. so does that mean that it's all cool for the continued genocide world wide? Current rate of a christian slave in Sudan less than $15. It's documented that more than 250,000 Christians a year, are still being murdered.

Cool because they will eventually all die?

lovely.

Problem solved when all the Christians are dead in Islamic, communist and all other countries world wide that are purging them.

Of course, America is trying to stamp out Christianity also, but it's not physical death, it's not politically correct.

According to that theory, only thing that will swing the pendulum back is God. Plagues, famine... flood? Tsunami, Hurricanes, Earthquakes..

im sorry but i haven't seen one person condoning these murders. I have only seen people remarking about other issues of christianity. Don't lose faith Ricky, I understand your point as im sure all of us here do.

It's just a sign of how many people will faithfully craft a comment for every top story....without actually reading any sort of source article.

The dark ages sucked. Everyone knows that. I believe you might be confused with Bishops in the Anglican church of England that did much to persecute anyone "wicked". That is also the church that came to America originally.

But who cares. the issue at hand is that someone is telling us about the genocide of Christians world wide.
The going rate of a christian slave in sudan is $15 or less.
The current rate of genocide of Christians purely due to their faith... about 250,000.
Probably higher.
Did you see that in Iran alone between 03 to 08 over 500,000 Christians were executed by the Muslim government, and that is not a crime to kill a Christian.

Anyone else upset about genocide?
Or no, because it isn't happening to you? lovely.

Awesome.

So is it enough spiritual truth that one should be concerned about the massacre and genocide of hundreds of thousands of humans.. people... for no crime, except that they are Christians in a country where it is illegal? Yes humans are being KILLED for this. And it is not a crime to kill a Christian.

Interesting he was against political correctness in general.

Seeds were planted about 3 generations ago in other countries, less here but has brought on political correctness that gives tolerance to any religion or practice except being Christian.

i think you're comment is more disturbing than any so far. how do you think you can compare people to hitler and stalin when they killed millions of people? who's a leader of a country on this forum? who here thinks equal human rights for christians is a bad idea? i haven't read one post like that so far....

i have seen posts that recommend christians pay attention to their own personal goodness, posts that recommend christians don't evangelize or criticize non-believers, and others criticizing the use of "phobia."

try re-reading the posts over again and not be so quick to cast judgement eh?

I you do realize this story is about a group of Indians being killed right?

That being said how appropriate is it to justify their murder for any reason, let alone the piss poor responses I’m not going to bother to repeat.

As for the whole Hitler comparison well it’s a no brainier my friend. If you’re a prejudice douche then you are in some ways comparable to Hitler and or Stalin. It doesn’t get any simpler then that.

i realize that and offered no justification for their murder because there simply is not one. I was instead clarifying the seemingly offtopic remarks that others had made in this thread.

comparable to hitler or stalin? for what? panamacanalzone said "I think either you believe in fundamental human rights or you don't. If you don't, you are no different from Hitler, Stalin..."

the key words being NO DIFFERENT.

I respectfully disagree. You have it correct through, ricky, in saying that people are IN SOME WAYS comparable if they are prejudice. My issue was in panamacanalzone making a bare generalization and that was all.

I disagree with the others above.

You actually understood what was being discussed, and yes, it's a genocide and it's an atrocity.

Most people here can't see beyond their own mind to comprehend or see something that doesn't touch their lives directly. they also didn't understand what was being discussed.

Do you know what is happening or are you in ignorant bliss?

Or are you just messed up in the head, so that the annual genocide of any population is cool as long as you aren't included.

Did you not see that between 03 and now 500,000 people were mascaraed in Iran alone for the crime of not converting to Islam?

Oh yeah it's not you. lol. read before you spew.?

The true ideology of Islam, Christianity, and judaism is not suppose to be dangerous, but every one of these religions at some point in history has used violence against those who don't believe the way they do. There are peaceful and non-peaceful people found within every type of demographic.

"True Christian ideology is anything but dangerous "

It is also extremely rare.

You got it right 100 percent.

What is being discussed here is genocide.
Do 8/10 of the people who posted above care? No, they are not being murdered.

But worldwide 250,000 a year genocide is going on, and in most of those countries it is done on behalf of the government or funded by it. Billions have died, more than the previous 2k years combined. And yeah the target are Christians who have committed no crime and have not inconvenienced any person in America in any way--so the politically correct answer is not to care, they are only Christians.

Islam doesn't promote violence like you said. That to me is an ignorant insult on your part, but I do agree with some stuff you said. The bible is suppose to be based on (if you are a Christian) on how Christ lived that is why Christians are called Christians. That is why we have the new testament; the new testament and the gospels are supposed to support our ideology of love. Humans have a dark side to them, and so they twist the word to blast the world. You see it everyday and you see it in history. A skeptical Christian should ask him or herself, am I here to walk like Jesus walked? If the answer is yes then you should read about Jesus love and compassion.

Right islam doesn't promote this.

FACT: 500,000 Christians in Iran alone were executed for not converting to islam. They committed no other crime.

But yeah you are right.

And yeah with that thought genocide of 250,000/yr that has totaled billions is not a big deal since your family isn't being slaughtered right?

Oh and one other comment, the fact that the Pope spoke about this, doesn't diminish the fact. Christians mostly not catholic are slaughtered annually.

sad isn't it.

I agree! maybe you should make it into a news story, then you may get as many comments as this one! It deserves as much attention.

what? I really hate seeing all these sardonic responses.

Especially when similar "islamaphobia" articles have dozens and dozens of sympathetic, poor-muslim responses. I suspect that most of this resentful attitude towards Christianity comes from rebellion towards the religion of their youth.

Hi.
What the Vatican and others are concerned about is:
The genocide world wide, more than 250,000 Christians a year, however this issue is much different from what you are suffering from when Christians say they feel sorry for you.

These people do not flaunt their faith. Most do not own bibles (that is punishable by death, however it is a most cherished item). Many house churches share one Bible. In many countries with "religious freedom" it is not against the law to kill a Christian. It is not murder. Often governments arm the militias that do this.

This is happening in many countries world wide.

Why isn't it on the news? It just was, and it is politically correct to have religious toleration for all religions except Christianity here in America. Seeds were planted, America "evolved".

The media is a business. They won't publish much that won't sell. Here most don't care about what is outside our boarders.

Why do I bother to say anything, I'm not a religious fanatic, but genocide on this scale makes me cry. Aids in Africa and Wars do the same, however America knows about those.

Attitudes here reflect that Americans in general haven't been sensitive to the Genocide world wide.

It looks like people just care about stuff they find irritating about other people.

Do you applaud what Hitler did? Probably not. Who in their right mind would?

Billions have been killed via execution, genocide, etc. At about 250,000 per year, because they are of a certain religion. It happens to be Christianity.

But I guess it's not politically correct to care about such things, and most Americans don't give a damn unless it happens to affect them personally.

Great, but what about the genocide? Or did you miss that part?

This is the exact doctrine that communist countries force on their people.

Cool isn't it. They replaced God with Hitler, Science, Stalin, Science, anything but God. 3 generations later ya have skinhead Russian guys with pure intentions, supported by the police severely injuring via beating or other means anyone they don't want in their country, as in those not born there. (remember the current pod?)

But who cares if it doesn't affect you right?

Certainly not the genocide of a few hundred million people based on their religion alone... THIS YEAR.
Billions in total. That was the issue.

Wow thanks for saying it like that. I'm always glad to see people share my views on religion. All it does is show you who you should hate or pity for not believing like you and subdue you to believe out of fear. If people were good for the sake of good, and not to guarantee their free ticket to this "heaven" they speak of, the world would be a much better place. I honestly don't give a shit i there is a god or not. I don't give a shit if I end up going to "hell." As long as the future generations have something to live for because of my actions, I don't care what becomes of me when I die. That would be selfish.

everything you said, shun21, but for me, too.

Hi.
What the Vatican and others are concerned about is:
The genocide world wide, more than 250,000 Christians a year, however this issue is much different from what you are suffering from.

These people do not flaunt their faith. Most do not own bibles (that is punishable by death, however it is a most cherished item). Many house churches share one Bible. In many countries with "religious freedom" it is not against the law to kill a Christian. It is not murder. Often governments arm the militias that do this.

This is happening in many countries world wide.

Why isn't it on the news? It just was, and it is politically correct to have religious toleration for all religions except Christianity here in America. Seeds were planted, America "evolved".

The media is a business. They won't publish much that won't sell. Here most don't care about what is outside our boarders.

Why do I bother to say anything, I'm not a religious fanatic, but genocide on this scale makes me cry. Aids in Africa and Wars do the same, however America knows about those.

Attitudes here reflect that Americans in general haven't been sensitive to the Genocide world wide.

It looks like people just care about stuff they find irritating about other people.

I can say who is wrong..
Countries where killing someone based on their religion, race, etc. is not a crime.

Death rate of the genocide of Christians annually is about 250,000 a year. For the above reasons.

If it were another group of people would anyone care more?

This present time, a genocide of more than 250,000 of Christians are slaughtered purely for their faith, that they practice underground, each year.

The total is in the billions for this century alone, more than 2000 years combined.

Compared to the crusades, please. Both wrong.
What kind of other politically correct ideas do you think are worse than this?

I might not be the Pope's biggest fan..
There's no picture of him on my wall (smiles). Nothing wrong with people that do either.

But dude, the guy speaks like 12 languages. So he gets something in English wrong that is probably due to our odd grammar (study a variety of languages and you will see American English is vastly different in structure... It it likely that he even gave this address in another language all together. Not all languages can translate into english and make sense.) But so either a translator or the pope made a grammatical error in a foreign language, he's stupid and should be trashed?

Would this be better received by a Protestant or Politically correct speaker?

Hi.
What the Vatican and others are concerned about is:
The genocide world wide, more than 250,000 Christians a year, however this issue is much different from what you are suffering from.

These people do not flaunt their faith. Most do not own bibles (that is punishable by death, however it is a most cherished item). Many house churches share one Bible. In many countries with "religious freedom" it is not against the law to kill a Christian. It is not murder. Often governments arm the militias that do this.

This is happening in many countries world wide.

Why isn't it on the news? It just was, and it is politically correct to have religious toleration for all religions except Christianity here in America. Seeds were planted, America "evolved".

The media is a business. They won't publish much that won't sell. Here most don't care about what is outside our boarders.

Why do I bother to say anything, I'm not a religious fanatic, but genocide on this scale makes me cry. Aids in Africa and Wars do the same, however America knows about those.

Attitudes here reflect that Americans in general haven't been sensitive to the Genocide world wide.

It looks like people just care about stuff they find irritating about other people.

amen.