If teens are having sex, why aren't we teaching them how to protect themselves?
source: http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/reality-check-video/comprehensive-sex-education-vs-abstin...
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davidbdr
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The whole thing is silly. Sex is just another aspect of being an animal and a Human. Do what ever floats your boat as long as you are responsible. What are we shielding the kids from? I think everyone has figured out we all have the same parts. Sex should be enjoyed for pleasure as well as love. The US needs to grow up.
We were factual and up front with our son about what sex was all about. I would have been insulted had some pathetic sex ed class handed him a text book with sections bypassed or images blocked with stickers.
This whole subject makes me want to just pound me head on a table.
By the way, Gov. Palin, how did all that abstinence only preaching work out for you and your kids?
I think sex ed, in the early years should be teaching about the body and not to be ashamed of it. As early as possible, I think this education should be co-ed. If children grow up early being comfortable with each other, there is less chance of hidden, furtive activity.
As soon as the kids are entering sexual maturity, proper birth control and STD prevention methods should be taught. By high school, the education should be on how to be with each other, straight or gay, with respect and love. Maybe this country could lower its inclination towards abuse and treating girlfriends and wives like property.
That's my opinion anyway.
- 3 years ago
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davidbdr
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Nancyf
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You know, after thinking about it, I think this issue is a non-issue that is being promoted by politicians not only as a tool to divide and conquer but to shift attention away from the abuse and neglect of our neediest and suffering of our society. GOD forbid they might have to help someone poor....
- 3 years ago
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Nancyf
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Katie_Leigh
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You know, sometimes I don't know what to think about the whole sex education uproar.
I'm fifteen years old, homeschooled, and have never set foot on a high school campus.
Consequently, I've never been through a sex education course.
However, I know about the different forms of birth control (the pill, condoms, the patch, contraceptive foams and creams, spermicides, etc.), and how to effectively use them. I would dare to say that most of us know what they do and how to use them.
In the words of Dr. House, "haven't you seen an after-school special?".
We know. In addition to parents (if we're lucky), and schools, media has taught us. Ultimately, it's up to us. I have friends who know darn well how to use condom, but choose to use the withdrawl method instead. Yes, they're being dumb, but they also know other methods and the risks they're taking.
Sorry if I'm "flaming" or whatever, but that's just my opinion. Maybe if kids knew all of the benefits of EVERY form of birth control, including extensive abstinence education, we would make better decisions. Maybe we won't.
Ultimately, it's up to the individual and the paths they choose.
- 3 years ago
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Katie_Leigh
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cantucwearebrothers
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Katie_Leigh:
So from the teen perspective...why are they choosing not to use condoms? Why are the girls allowing this to happen? Where are adults failing?
- 3 years ago
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cantucwearebrothers
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Katie_Leigh
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Katie_Leigh:
Because, to be blunt, a lot of teens can just be dumb.
Like the girl I used in the example; she knows what the consequences are, she knows she can get pregnant, she knows what birth control is and how to use it, she simply chooses not to.
I think that in sex education, you should present all sides. I'm a Christian, and personally, I'm going to follow the abstinence until marriage model, but I also know that just because that's what I think is right doesn't mean that everyone else is going to do it. Yes, educate us on how to use birth control, but abstinence also needs to be taught. Don't throw the whole glorified "well, since everyone else is doing it you probably will too" argument at us. Hold us to higher standards, expect that we can be responsible, but, at the same time, expect us to screw up. Teach us that it's okay to be abstinent, that that's cool too, but that if you are going to be active, use birth control. We should be trying to foster openess about sex. But like I said, ultimately, it's up to the individual. Just like, well, using a totally unrelated metaphor, I can teach you about gun safety all day long. I can teach you how to operate the device, how to use the safety precautions, how to wear protective gear, but just because I tell you how, does that mean that you're always going to do exactly what I told you? No. Yes, if you really want to you'll follow my instructions, but there's also a chance that you'll do what you dang well want to. You get it? (Lol, I'm sorry if I'm not explaining this well. It's late and I'm sick.) But.. do you see where I'm coming from? You can educate teens until you're blue in the face, but they're going to make the final call.
And let's face it. We (teenagers), can be utterly stupid.
p.s- I'm not trying to be rude, and I apoligize if that's how it comes off as. =]
- 3 years ago
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Katie_Leigh
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LindseyIndigo
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"If teens are having sex, why aren't we teaching them how to protect themselves?"
If only Sarah Palin would ask herself that question...
- 3 years ago
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LindseyIndigo
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tracyetheridge
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because some goodie-two-shoes,moral crusader thinking that only they know what is best for us doesn't want children to be taught sex-ed in school.Just because thier head is buried in the sand they think everyones should be.
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tracyetheridge
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soleil10
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tracyetheridge:
What do you mean by children. 5 years old ,8 ,11 ,14,17,
What do you mean by sex-ed ? The "unplanned motherhood kind".
If you do look at the fruits !!!!
Open your wallet and pay the bills. That is fine with me
- 3 years ago
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soleil10
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needu
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Why is it we feel the need to shelter our kids from the things they need to know for life? To me sex ed isnt about telling them how to do it right, it is about teaching them Health. When a kid is in school we teach them things they need to know for their future. And not all that we teach them is useful to them today, but will be in the future. Just because they are not married today, or maybe not even having sex today, doesnt mean that the information isnt vital to their future. Are these people saying that a husband shouldnt understand his wife? Are they saying that a wife doesnt have a key role in the health and well being of their families? I think if we are NOT teaching our kids about the things they need to know for LIFE then WE are the ones hurting them! And saying that they should be taught in the home is just silly. Yes, they should be taught about love and right from wrong from their parents, but if you think that all parents are going to give their kids CORRECT information, then you havent talked to people about what their parents taught them about it! Go to any High School and randomly ask the kids what their parents have told them.
- 3 years ago
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needu
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Nancyf
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Good job! It's like I always thought; 9/10th's of the people for abstinence are just BIG hypocrites. Who do they think they are to expect their kids will do things any different than they did? It's unrealistic..and judgemental.
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Nancyf
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chillwillNJ
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At very least, teach this.
- 3 years ago
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chillwillNJ
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96thdayofrage
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...because we are disengenuous, irresponsible craven COWARDS?
Hey, that's my answer, and I'm sticking with it!
- 3 years ago
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96thdayofrage
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scoreJ6
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Massachusetts refused all federal funding for abstinence only education, so proud of my state
- 3 years ago
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scoreJ6
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soleil10
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scoreJ6:
Proud of what ?
That what teenage girls are saying in Gloucester high schools
Good luck
- 3 years ago
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soleil10
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soleil10
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First of all Abstinence ONLY is a code word from the "unplanned motherhood "crowd.
Comprehensive sex ed is also a misleading code word because it is not comprehensive. These people could not care less about promoting abstinence
It treats kids as future sluts that cannot control themselves and is planning for their failure
Studies show that it is not successful. It is a huge cover up.
It is based on a big lie because the statisitcs show that the CCU is less than 50 %.
The spread of STDs and the #s of abortions are additional proofs ot its failure.
The constant attack on abstinence education is a strategy to hide the failure of sex ed
Since abstinence based education is a very small %. of sex education and as it is pushed out by liberals, soon they wil have only themselves to blame for the culture of sexual extension they are so eager to promote
- 3 years ago
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soleil10
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cantucwearebrothers
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soleil10:
Sorry to burst your bubble but the kids that are the most curious about sex come from conservative parents. Parents who aren't having open frank conversations with their children. Parents who think that if they don't talk about it that it won't happen.
Get real. Knowledge is power. Educate kids about ALL aspects of sex. From the physical to the emotional to the dangers of it. Only then can they make the right decisions for themselves.
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cantucwearebrothers
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anglcazn
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soleil10:
soleil, I love it how you call people who are interested in sex "sluts". It only shows you're narrow mindedness. And what are your studies? I have yet to see you present any. And the sex education is very comprehensive. It teaches students abstinence but ways of safer sex if they planned to have sex when they're ready. I'm getting really tired of your narrow mind, sprouting out hate and names. Sex is normal,deal with it.
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anglcazn
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soleil10
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soleil10:
You are twisting my words.
I am saying that the 'unplanned motherhood" type of crowd see young people as promisccuous , who cannot control themselves and they are basically preparing them for promiscuous unsafe sex.
I have posted studies on current before. Go to my archive. You will find them.
Check the facts. I can guarantee you that you do not know them
Here is a simple question" What is the rate of CCU for condoms teenagers.
If you do not know it right now, you have not done your homework.
I am not anti sex. You got it wrong.
- 3 years ago
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soleil10
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Nancyf
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soleil10:
Uh-huh. Well tell me this...do u think Palin's pregnant daughter had sex-ed or abstinence preached at her? Or did her mother even discuss it with her at ALL?? There are other reasons girls get pregnant besides lack of will of restraint. Some have a purpose behind their madness.
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Nancyf
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bekah_1984
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I think that's the million dollar question. Not only do the programs that offer all around education on sexual health and protection enlighten and educate like they are suppose to, but they break the ice when it comes to parents talking to their kids about sexuality and responsibility in general. I think abstinence-only programs are detrimental to the education of kids as well as simply being another part of our society that is run with a very Christian overtone to it. Not everyone believes that sex outside of marriage is going to send you to hell. But it is true that if you have ignorant sex, you will have a lot more unexpected results in the future. Kids need to know what their sperm and egg are and are capable of.
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bekah_1984
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regjoeschmo
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help teach the young men the truth about the consequences of their actions, sure children need sex education, but do we even bother telling them about what happens as a result of it??
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regjoeschmo
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SAMMY_797
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regjoeschmo:
i think the exact same thing ... YAY go condoms
- 3 years ago
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SAMMY_797
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fiat_lux088
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It's a new line of culture I guess. Culture is apparently my word of the day, but it fits heavily into many of today's topics.
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fiat_lux088
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rainbowryan420
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most schools teach Abstinance because they get more government funding for it
and rarely because of a point of view
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rainbowryan420
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contemplation
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Abstinance is good, but sometimes unrealistic. Even in a religious community, sex is human nature. We all have those urges, weather we persue them or not. So parents should be preaching abstinance, but also preaching openess. If teens could tell their parents about sex or having it, then teen pregnancy (the root of the problem) could be reduced.
Tell mom or dad, get birth control or condoms and contraceptives. Practice safe sex. And eliminate casual sex by instilling the fact that sex should be with someone who you love. Parents need to be understanding in that since, because telling them "no or else" just ends in them doing it anyway behind your back, untill you hear "Hey guys, im pregnant."
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contemplation
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retired_Navy
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retired_Navy
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buttcrack
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retired_Navy:
just one problem , what if the father is a child molester , do you think he will teach his kid that what he is doing is wrong?
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buttcrack
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anglcazn
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retired_Navy:
Sorry retired_Navy, but sex education should not always start at home. And schools are not teaching it at a young age. Schools begin teaching sex education around seventh grade, where the majority of the students are around 12 years old. At the age, puberty begins to arrive and the surge of hormones begin to develop.
Parents and schools should both teach their children about sex education. Not either/or but both. And I find it very hypocritical that you think the TV, internet, computer and schools are bringing down America's "moral" (whatever the supposed morals are) when you yourself watch TV, currently using a computer and the internet, and has gone through school.
Abstinence does not work. All it does is teach ignorance amongst its students. Sex is normal and people should teach students that if they want to have sex, they can have it in a safer way. Because of abstinence programs, many students do not believe oral sex is sex.
And did you know, states that champion abstinence sex educations have higher rates of teen pregnancies?
- 3 years ago
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anglcazn
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wisegrrl
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retired_Navy:
Schoolkids are not stupid. They are discovering for themselves that these "abstinence-only" classes are just plain wrong. Comprehensive, medically and scientifically correct sex-ed has been proven time and again to be effective.These classes produce students with responsible, "abstinent" behaviors.
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wisegrrl
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wisegrrl
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retired_Navy:
... and furthermore, it is a complete LIE that people did not start having pre-marital sex until the 1960s. Pre-marital sex has ran rampant since the dawn of man, and even in the days when abortion was illegal (much of the 20th century before Roe vs. Wade). It resulted in many young unmarried pregnant women either : 1) killing themselves by having illegal abortions (whether they be "back alley" or or trying to do it themselves); or 2) Being sent off by their families to homes for unmarried pregnant women, where they were forced to give birth to their babies and immediately give them up for sealed, confidential adoptions. I remember my parents telling me about many of the friends they had growing up that were adopted. They were adopted for a reason, it was because their parents had pre-marital sex, illicit sex (adultery), and/or were underage. Do not get me wrong. Adoption is an important act of compassion. But the average adopted person growing up in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, was often screwed-up emotionally and physically, because they knew they were not being raised by their "natural" parents, Much of this generation has not lived through that, and those times were very frightening and dangerous. At the rate things are going, future generations will be experiencing such frightening times once again.
This book (If you cannot see the image it is called "The Girls Who Went Away" by Ann Fessler and the site for it is http://www.thegirlswhowentaway.com) is one of the most heartbreaking books I ever read on the subject. I urge anyone with any point of view on reproductive issues - from the concerned to the skeptical --to read it ... and weep.
- 3 years ago
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wisegrrl
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bekah_1984
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retired_Navy:
Why in the world would you want to limit what children are learning?!? Especially about themselves??? I had sex ed the first time in 6th grade and they separated the girls and boys and we each learned about how our parts of the body worked. Girls can start having their period as early as age 10 (sometimes younger) so that IS the appropriate age to start teaching them about their bodies. The following year in 7th grade, we learned about the opposite sex. And finally in 8th grade we learned about abstinence and protection. I think that this was a pretty good plan that didn't shove everything into our laps at once. We took one class period for three days out of each year and learned about our bodies and how they work.
- 3 years ago
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bekah_1984