Politics | November 18, 2008 | 63 comments

A Day Without A Gay

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In the light of recent events that have taken place in the state of California, many people have decided that it’s time to take matters into our own hands. We will not sit back and let the rest of the world decide what we can and cannot do in America the Free.

We have borrowed from the Chicano movement and modified their "Day without a Mexican" into "Day without a Gay."

This concept is simple, but makes a huge impact.

On December 10th, 2008 we ask that all people in the LGBT community and all of our supporters call in sick to work and do not attend school. We ask that you do not purchase anything that day. We want California to see how many of us there are, and that there may be a person in their life that they didn’t know was gay.

Please join us. I know, personally, how extremely difficult it can be to come out and be open about yourself. I have overcome my fear, and I hope that all of you are able to as well.

We need to stand strong in California, and around the country. We need those that oppose us to know that we are strong and that we will NEVER GIVE UP.

Join us, and gain your equality. **this is not restricted to California**

The Official Website: day without a gay * org
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63 comments // A Day Without A Gay

  • donkeyfly69
  • anglcazn
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      anglcazn  
    • I'm hoping this works. One of the responses mentioned to gather at city hall (or any governmental building) to protest while we're not working (which sounds like a good idea to me ^_^ )

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
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      donkeyfly69  
    • THIS IS NOT RESTRICTED TO CALIFORNIA

      everyone in the united states, uk, canada, everywhere can (and should) participate. if you cannot call off work, you can wear a white ribbon at work.

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • reaisan
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      reaisan  
    • Don't limit yourselves to just California. Floridians also have a huge statement to make. The national LBGQ community needs to send a message!

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
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      donkeyfly69  
    • reaisan:

      THIS IS NOT RESTRICTED TO CALIFORNIA

      everyone in the united states, uk, canada, everywhere can (and should) participate. if you cannot call off work, you can wear a white ribbon at work.

    • 3 years ago
  • slicedbread
  • donkeyfly69
  • pebbles6584
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      pebbles6584  
    • This is absolutely ridiculous. Can't you guys just accept the fact that the people VOTED! It was LOUD and CLEAR what the MAJORITY want. GET OVER IT! You talk about love not hate...blah blah blah. All I can see it HATE, HATE and more HATE coming from gay rights' activist because not everyone agrees with this doesn't make them haters. You don't see supporters of Prop 8 protesting in an intimdating manner and harassing gay bars and such. Respect the decision of the MAJORITY and seriously...GET OVER IT!

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • ash_theory
  • donkeyfly69
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      donkeyfly69  
    • ash_theory:

      ash_theory:

      this is not restricted to california or even the united states. this is a world wide protest. gay, straight, transgendered, everyone can join. so i hope you do and spread the word to as many people as possible

    • 3 years ago
  • Liberal_Extinction
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      Liberal_Extinction  
    • Screw one day, would you people PLEASE go for at least a month or a year? It would be nice to do without all the gay pride pissing and moaning for a month or a year. Stop trying to be annoying GAY people and just be people and you'd probably find a whole lot more of us would have less of a problem with you.

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • damnneargenius
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      damnneargenius  
    • May I humbly suggest your fight the "H8" with patient, scientific explanation and remove sexual pride from the public forum in the future.

      I find people wearing "sex" on their sleeve offensive, the same way I would find it offensive if anyone else walks up to me and starts discussing their sex life.

      For the record, just remember you are opening the door to mass anarchy and the right to marry multiple people, sheep, and inanimate objects as well.

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
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      donkeyfly69  
    • damnneargenius:

      "I find people wearing "sex" on their sleeve offensive"

      ...um this has absolutely nothing to do with sex...
      ...it's a bit odd that you even thought that.

      "For the record, just remember you are opening the door to mass anarchy"

      how?

      "and the right to marry multiple people,"

      or not

      "sheep,"

      already disproved a billion times. how many sheep can fill out a marriage application?

      "and inanimate objects as well."

      also disproved a billion times. can inanimate objects give consent?

    • 3 years ago
  • damnneargenius
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      damnneargenius  
    • damnneargenius:

      The point being, the human mind is extremely advanced and easily capable of "developing attachment" to things. When you take the natural drug cocktail that love and sex creates, and direct it towards members of the same sex instead of members of the opposite sex...the way it would seem nature engineered the species in order FOR IT TO EXIST...well, that's OK because it's a free country.

      On the other hand, if you are trying to argue that this is "normal" behavior and should be seen and respected in the same light as the traditional definition of marriage...well, that is not more right than being allowed to marry multiple people...and the sheep and inanimate objects are just being thrown in there for sarcasm and the point that once you cross into that land of mis-directed sexual behavior--all bets are off.

      Using the same argument the gays are using, you should be able to get anything passed as being legal--and that isn't necessarily good for society.

      I could honestly care less if gay people want to get married--however, I completely understand how those wishing to protect the small amount of moral fabric left in our society are worried about sending the wrong messages to kids and weak-minded individuals.

      Strangely, what I take issue with most, is the fact that "gay" has been used to stereotype people--some of whose behavior is understandable and acceptable in the context of science--but to a much larger extent--the behavior of people who just have serious issues to begin with and take the easy/twisted way out by doing drugs and having homosexual sex with their friends.

      Weird--not necessarily a good thing--and therefore something that should be addressed carefully.

      If you are "born gay"--and can prove it in tests--then I can understand and sympathize with your cause.

      If you are just a sexual freak that has overly opened their mind because you like to party, do drugs, and wear that "fruit" mask--then I strongly disagree with endorsing that behavior.

    • 3 years ago
  • damnneargenius
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      damnneargenius  
    • damnneargenius:

      I'm sorry, but I have met relatively normal, respectful behaving gay people, and I would have no problem with them getting married--but, this whole obnoxious, annoying as hell "gay pride" nonsense is just as out of line as parading something like "swinger pride".

      The bottom line is, the human mind can be conditioned to believe and associate very strong, drug addiction-like feelings to any number of things when sex, psychology, and sociology come into play.

      We live in a society where saline pouches implanted in women's chests enhances attractiveness--substantially.

      Just think about that for a moment. Is it right? Err...not really--because it's fake, but it is understandable.

      I see much "gay" behavior to be nothing but "escaping" from hurt feelings and an arguably fucked up society or any number of things beyond just that small handful of people that were born with very strong and inescapable reverse-programming.

      Is reverse-programming a good thing for the future of society? Well, people that go that route go that route, but I completely understand the need for words to have meaning--and if the majority wants to define marriage between a man and a women--then the gay people should respect the law, and their fellow citizens, and change their strategy.

      How many girls out there are "bi"?

      How many girls are "bi" b/c it is a social stigma to get attention and be more desirable to certain types of "playboy" lifestyles?

      I could easily see myself having some sort of Hugh Hefner type arrangement (but with much higher quality women that I respect and truly care about...which is what brings up that polygamy angle), but to call them gay, but less try to say that it is "natural" and should be treated accordingly is a stretch.

      People are born with a certain set of genes, everything else about who they are, what they do, and who they become is environmental and social influence and conditioning.

      In my opinion, the small percentage of homosexual behavior in our society is far less of a threat to the survival of our species than many other things--however the gays just happen to be the ones that seem to be pushing for the abuse and misdefinition of freedom just a bit too hard--in the wrong way.

      Which raises all kinds of behavioral red flags.

      If you go for understanding and sympathy, then you would have my support--in the meantime this "black power" type hate nonsense is just digging the hole deeper in the eyes of the majority.

    • 3 years ago
  • damnneargenius
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      damnneargenius  
    • damnneargenius:

      In a related funny story, I host a talkshow in my weekly TV production class. I usually host every week and interview a panel of 3 "guests" from the class. The week after Prop 8 passed, in the fucked up world that it is, apparently the local "Rainbow Warrior coalition" thought it would be funny to try and stack the entire panel against me by putting the two gay guys in our class and one of their ardent supporters on stage with me.

      Prior to even beginning the show their behavior towards me was disrespectful. Why? B/c I am a good-looking guy--and apparently they think it is fun to make little snide remarks between each other about needing a moist towelette as they are intentionally positioned on the stage right next to (almost touching) me. Totally out of line. If a girl acted that way, she would be totally out of line to.

      So anyway, upon finding out that I didn't vote against Prop. 8 (I didn't vote for it either mind you b/c it really wasn't that big of a deal and in now way affected my life...well, except for all this "gay" nonsense in the wake of it) they became quite hostile and upset. Their "flock" mentality apparently momentarily empowered them to be quite snarky towards me, but it doesn't really matter b/c I'm not the type you will win an argument against if you choose to go against me.

      So anywho, not being the type to say anything behind someone's back that I won't say to their face, I gradually brought up the exact same points mentioned here throughout the course of the show.

      Besides calling names, all that happened is the advocate eventually lost her cool when she couldn't explain why gay marriage should be legal but polygamy (or, God forbid the right to marry sheep) should be forced through the courts at the same time just.

      It was pretty fucking funny when she stormed of stage, even though I in no way said anything offensive, I simply asked them to explain where the lines should be drawn, and they couldn't do it.

      So anywho, they then replaced the panel with a non-gay lineup of classmates, and we discussed the normal nonsense as usual.

      I honestly didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, nor did I completely support the position I took--HOWEVER it is no more ridiculous than gays saying that Prop. 8 passed b/c of "hate", which is exactly the point I was trying to illustrate.

      Which I apparently succeeded in doing a bit too well.

      Although several people from the class came up to me privately and told me I was f*cking hilarious as usual--the gay mafia apparently was offended that they couldn't bully me.

      The next week when it was time to make the weekly talkshow production as usual, I was told I couldn't host.

      Why?

      Turns out the class instructor is gay.

      I had to be a guest instead, and all references to sheep were ba-a-anned.

      Which just made me really open up the can of smartassed sarcasm just when I previously was about to apologize to anyone whose feelings I might have hurt.

      I would have never acted this way to the friendly gay people I know--and even voted against Prop. 8 on their behalf--but that is not the way it was presented to me.

      There is a lesson to be learned there--that perhaps the gay reverse-hate propaganda has gone a bit too far--and it is now causing more harm to your collective cause and public image than you realize.

    • 3 years ago
  • FrankOmazing
  • FallenMorgan
  • Cuddlebones
  • hapykap
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      hapykap  
    • Exercise your right to Freedom of Speech while we got the right!

      I am a very comfortable heterosexual man and I say each person has the right speak up for themselves and make changes that brings equality to every living human being!

      Live Learn Love, Understand Grow Evolve, Create Greatness and give it away... A.R.E. U? Awakening Revolution Evolution (Understanding) Awaken your Principle of Power within. Viva the Revolution!!!

    • 3 years ago
  • SonofLiberty1
  • donkeyfly69
  • YesWeDid
  • PoisonTheMonkey
  • donkeyfly69
  • BluePride
  • deeblackangel
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      deeblackangel  
    • I think this would be hilarious if some random straight person called out that day completely oblivious that the day was supposed to happen and was actually sick. And then subsequently was fires among other gays in the company who didn't show up and just because you call out doesn't give you a real excuse, you really might lose your job. This is just stupid. The world is no better or worse with out gays, they're just those..wierd people the most people try to avoid, yet accept. Fuck this bullshit. I'm buying twice as much shit that day.

    • 3 years ago
  • uroborus8
  • uroborus8
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      uroborus8  
    • National strike for gay rights, count me in!

      If we turn out in numbers like we did this Saturday, we will make an enormous impact.

    • 3 years ago
  • ninepounds6
  • guest
  • donkeyfly69
  • guest
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      guest  
    • ninepounds6:

      Not by my definition of straight. If you look up straight in the dictionary, one of the definitions is heterosexual. If you look up heterosexual in the dictionary, you'll see two antonyms listed: homosexual, bisexual.

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • guest
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      guest  
    • ninepounds6:

      In that case, I could say " if you're bi, technically that makes you gay, by default."

      "i've never seen a definition that says anything about it being exclusively."

      From dictionary.com:

      heterosexual

      adjective
      1. sexually attracted to members of the opposite sex [ant: homosexual, bisexual]

      antonym

      noun
      a word that expresses a meaning opposed to the meaning of another word

    • 3 years ago
  • IMMININT
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      IMMININT  
    • Nice... now everyone thats straight that just happens to not show up in your life that day... is gay too! Brilliant idea.....

    • 3 years ago
  • calfernia
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      calfernia  
    • Well, Well! I can breathe a sigh of relief on 12/10/08. Finally a day I can go about my business and not be offended by the blatant behavior and “sensitivities” of this group of deviants in the workplace.

      Halleluiah! A day when the work place will be free of this visually and auditory offensive population; thus, removing – if only for one day- the eggshells upon which one must walk so as not to have the screaming, tantrums of the overly dramatic/”sensitive” thrust upon the work places.

      Please, PLEASE!! Continue your efforts, organize, boycott, set up your own land, with laws and culture to your liking. Let me and the majority have some peace! Even if it is only for one day.

    • 3 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • calfernia:

      I understand what you're stating about how every infraction is much to do about nothing. I know many people who are like that and the aren't even gay. I also understand the satirical flare you have going on here.

      But I would like to take this moment to state that I have a few friends that are gay and what makes them good friends is that they think and speak what they believe even if I don't agree or if it might offend me and I can do the same. They are loyal and appreciate our relationship as is without asking "are you sure you don't want to...." because I know some that do that. It's funny at first but becomes tiresome.

      Humans are in different groups and sub groups and such and such...but what we all have in common is we are all human. There are good ones and bad ones. And people can speculate about what makes one worse because they like this or what makes one good because of this...but not all who do that or this are either. It's always a case by case.

      And I hope to never be so impersonal as a person to ever not see pain in someone's eyes or dismiss them because I don't know them. One sad human on this planet is far too much. All should be pleased and satisfied and until that day comes, people have a lot of work to do.

    • 3 years ago
  • Smartgirly1
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      Smartgirly1  
    • calfernia:

      Sounds like you're using a lot of poetic language just to communicate the fact that you are a biggot.

      Okay, that was rude of me, but I have many gay friends and I love them all very much. Mostly though I do not understand how it affects your life so much.
      Rude drivers affect my life because they scare the heck out of me. People smoking in public places affects me because I'm an athsmatic and I can't breathe around cigarettes, but I can just walk away. Violence affects everyone, but gay people don't affect your life to the dramatic level that so many people claim they do. Stop complaining about gay people ruining your day! (Okay, now I'm also ranting about all the other people who voted yes on 8.)

      And, no we never learned about marriage in school.

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
  • pebbles6584
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      pebbles6584  
    • calfernia:

      I agree with that!!! Gays can say whatever they want, but others have to constantly watch what they say as to not offend them! Good it'll be such a wonderful day on the 10th!!! We won't have to deal with oboxious and over sensitive people!

    • 3 years ago
  • anglcazn
  • Kashmir
  • Reddi
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      Reddi  
    • Hope that it fails ... like the other "without the" failed ...

      Then it can be seen that it's insignificant ... as before, the economic effects will be unknown and the boycott will failto halt "business as usual", with commerce may slow a bit in certain areas [like the interior design shops, jk =-].

    • 3 years ago
  • achromatic
  • jimenagamio
  • numinant
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      numinant  
    • now i have to remember not to call in sick that day lest anyone get the wrong idea...

      but seriously, this is a great idea. perhaps i'll take the day off in solidarity.

    • 3 years ago
  • J_Jammer
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      J_Jammer [removed]  
    • Day with out straight would be far more damaging and just as pointless.

      The obvious notion is that without anyone one "group" of people life would be far more difficult...for many hands make the load light, so the saying goes.

      I do love the poster presented here. So creative...and very powerful. Whoever created that, great job.

      I know people who will like this and I'll share it with them, but I think it's bad idea, great for what it's trying to do as in making people feel energized and motivated...but over all I think what will end up happening is nothing.

      I believe stubbornness is powerful and if you ever read the Bible and the story of Moses and Pharaoh---then you know how powerful stubbornness can be and that's what people are dealing with here.

    • 3 years ago
  • samthesixth
  • numinant
  • samthesixth
  • JaceTurnerFilm
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      JaceTurnerFilm  
    • I'm gonna step in and say why not include everyone in the GLBT community? the B's and that T's always seem to be left out of events like this. I am a transgender person and I am working to expand minds and educate people on trans issues. I think we all need to stand together in order for out voice to be heard, loud and clear.

    • 3 years ago
  • rainbowryan420
  • numinant
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      numinant  
    • JaceTurnerFilm:

      out of curiosity, what does being transgendered have to do with being homosexual? obviously there's some overlap and many cases, but otherwise it just seems like a stereotypical pigeon hole crafted by queer oppressors, or whatever you want to call them.

    • 3 years ago
  • sgwhites
  • donkeyfly69
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      donkeyfly69  
    • JaceTurnerFilm:

      "straight allies are welcome to join in as well as transgendered people and anyone who is or isn't part of the queer community"

      trans and genderqueer people tend to be included in the gay and lesbian community because they usually have to face a lot of the same struggles. if someone see's a pre-t, pre-op transman walking down the street they might mistake them for a lesbian and discriminate on them because of that; not necessarily because they are trans.

      also i think the title was picked because it would be short and sweet and reminiscent of "a day without a mexican"

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
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      donkeyfly69  
    • sorry for the bad translation:

      Alla luce degli avvenimenti recenti che hanno avvenuto nella condizione della California, molta gente ha deciso che è tempo di prendere gli argomenti nelle nostre proprie mani. Non ci sederemo indietro e non lasciamo il resto del mondo decidere che cosa possiamo e non possiamo fare in America il libero. Abbiamo preso in prestito dal movimento del Chicano ed abbiamo modificato il loro " Giorno senza un Mexican" in " Giorno senza un Gay." Questo concetto è semplice, ma ha un effetto enorme. Il 10 dicembre 2008 chiediamo che tutta la gente nella comunità di LGBT ed in tutti i nostri sostenitori denomina in malato per lavorare e non assistiamo alla scuola. Chiediamo che non comprate nulla che giorno. Vogliamo la California vederci quanto là sono e quella là può essere una persona nella loro vita che non hanno conosciuto erano gaie. Uniscali prego. So, personalmente, quanto estremamente difficile può essere di uscire ed essere aperta circa lei. Ho sormontato il mio timore e spero che tutti voi possa a pure. Dobbiamo levarci in piedi forti nella California ed intorno al paese. Abbiamo bisogno di quelli che si oppongono per sapere che siamo forti e che NON DAREMO MAI IN SU. Uniscali e guadagni la vostra uguaglianza. ** questo non si limita alla California ** Il Web site ufficiale: day without a gay * org

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
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      donkeyfly69  
    • this event is not restricted to gays and lesbians

      straight allies are welcome to join in as well as transgendered people and anyone who is or isn't part of the queer community

      this also is open to people in all states and all countries

      so take a load off and save some cash for equality on december 10th

    • 3 years ago
  • donkeyfly69
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