Anger erupts in the Castro!
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Members of the gay community said that almost every Friday night, a Christian group meets at the corner of Castro and 18th Streets, in the heart of the city's gayest neighborhood. They try to convert gays and lesbians into a straight lifestyle.
Members of the gay community insisted that their reaction to the Christian group was spontaneous. It was not an organized thing. We're tired of it. It's not religious. It's not a racial thing. It's about hate. We're trying to send a message across the world that we're standing up and we don't want this to go on anymore said Adam Quintero. Some demonstrators told KTVU (Fox channel 2) that they are planning on more than protests. They say they plan to break away and carry out acts of civil disobedience.
San Francisco Police officers in riot gear formed a line and escorted the religious group into a van to safely get them out of the area.
Is this action necessary for gays to have equal rights, or the same their opponents to suppress those same rights? If the religious radicals have won the temporary battle, for votes? Then why has this Discrimination not been met with harsher backlash? Why if this discrimination (against gays) is to legally to occur is it that gays are fiscally required to contribute yet civically remain a second class citizen?
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daledrops
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the last eruption i had in castro wasn't my anger.
- 3 years ago
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daledrops
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Topkitty
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I wish you could here me laughing. And no doubt I will get a thousand e-mails for this one. But for a group so dead set against hate, that sure was a hateful thing to do. In order to be loved, you must first be loveable. Wow, can you spell intolerance, I know you can.
- 3 years ago
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Topkitty
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grossenyucky
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If you read the account of what really happened http://www.jhopsf.org/ and watch the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrRxFoBSPng&feature=related it is hard for me to believe that the Christians were the ones doing the "hating" in this situation.
- 3 years ago
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grossenyucky
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Coolie20
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grossenyucky:
Yeah:D I love jhop sf...everyone on the team is so humble!
- 3 years ago
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Coolie20
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guest
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Not OK for Christians to be in the Gays' territory, but perfectly alright for the Gays to invade the Christians' territory (protesting at temples and churches), right?
- 3 years ago
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guest
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unimatrix0
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Xtians are so obnoxious I don't blame anyone from chasing them out of their neighborhood. I only wish more Americans had the courage and wisdom to confront the ignorant, the superstitious, the Xtian. It is time to confront Xtians who are spreading hate, fear, and homophobia. Good people must stand up against the religious right.
- 3 years ago
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unimatrix0
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berek
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Jujubal
- 3 years ago
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berek
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neckfire
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Sounds like somebody caught the tiger by the tail...
- 3 years ago
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neckfire
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omordn
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I think it was time these religious cults get a taste of their own medicine. Sorry, but no matter how you look at it, the LGBT community is getting sick and tired of playing the "nice community" unlike their religious neighbors who feel they have every right to invade people's privacy and civil rights.
I don't support violence and this was not even close to it. As far as intimidation, do you honestly believe that these religious pricks don't practice that? I'm sorry... intimidation or not... the Castro community did the right thing in my opinion here. "No more," is what this meant or looked to me. If I was there, I would have done the same thing.
- 3 years ago
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omordn
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berek
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omordn:
mordor -- Yeah, they were singing in a public place. Terrorists!
The riot gear. . .because they were playin nice. (Read again)
- 3 years ago
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berek
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RCS
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There is never an excuse for violence and intimidation in these circumstances. These fanatics have a right to be a**h***s in public. The appropriate response to them on the part of people walking by is to yell them, "You are evil scum," "You are just as bad as Nazis," or "You're hiding behind the cross like the Ku Klux Klan." You can add "F*** Off!" or "Eat s*** and die" if it makes you feel better. However, violence is just stooping down to the totalitarian level that they would enforce if they could ever come to power.
- 3 years ago
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RCS
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jubal
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RCS:
RCS, some people consider shouting obscenities to be violence.
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jubal
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RCS
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RCS:
Jubal, I would accept it being classified as verbal abuse, but I wouldn't consider it as being the same as physical violence.
- 3 years ago
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RCS
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berek
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There must be some details missing. A habit on Fridays of this church group making a presence on gay turf where attempts to convert (hopefully nothing like persuasion was used) results in riot gear being taken out of the trunk. Why?
I must be missing the spot where someone said, 'um - no thank you, I like who I am'. Does tolerance get thrown out because it's a gay issue? There simply must be a purpose more sinister that wasn't reported since joyball wants to burn buildings now.
While it is an unsafe practice (please live that helmet law), they are likely thinking beyond the short term. Life and limb to save some lambs. If intimidation and the tactics suited in anger are allowed to go unchecked, what does the Castro gain?
- 3 years ago
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berek
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jubal
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berek:
Berek, my name is not Joyball its Jubal.
I didn't say I wanted to burn buildings, I was making a prediction of where this kind of angry unchecked rage will lead. Christians going to Castro to preach anti gay is like Christians feeding steak to the lions.
- 3 years ago
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jubal
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berek
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berek:
jubal -- It's a sensitivity thing, not fun for you. Jubal is good.
I am soo sorry. I fully believed I saw a raucous comment like that. You are good to correct me on it.
I believe the tax exempt status is good up and until you get involved with a candidate. Political action on behalf of _any_ issue is no threat to one's 501(c)(3) standing (IRS code).
- 3 years ago
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berek
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grossenyucky
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berek:
If you look at the links I posted, it will fill you in on the details. This story did a really poor job of reporting.
- 3 years ago
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grossenyucky
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sickinjersey
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RIGHT ON JUBAL . A COMPLETE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. CHURCH EQUALS CORPORATION.GO CONDOMS.
- 3 years ago
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jubal
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These people are no longer doing religious work they are doing political work.
I say it is time to tax churches that are really fronts for political action. No more tax breaks for political churches.
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jubal
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samthesixth
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jubal:
Agreed. No tax breaks for churches pushing politics!
- 3 years ago
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samthesixth
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PamelaSC
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I'm not an atheist, but I am with krush on this.....I don't want anyone telling me what I need to or should believe. Not the government, and not organized religion. I left buildings and organized religion for just that reason. People have to figure out the meanings of their own lives - they can't be forced.
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PamelaSC
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TyMarshal [removed]
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TyMarshal [removed]
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seanblossom
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TyMarshal:
slavery race. . . have you read a science book recently? - you are totally off your head!
- 3 years ago
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seanblossom
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krush_productions
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The "Church" pushes it's beliefs too fucking far! This world wide attempt to convert everything is killing us. Their efforts wiped out most of the Native Americans religious beliefs, they burned countless amounts of knowledge when they found the Mayan's. Now they are trying to get the gays to be straight?!? Just Leave people the fuck alone, stop trying to "save" all of us. I like being a dirty pot smoking atheist.
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krush_productions
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TyMarshal [removed]
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jubal
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TyMarshal:
They are egging for a battle of biblical proportions. Next thing you know Churches in California will start burning.
- 3 years ago
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jubal
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berek
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seenblasting -- Thanks, but the sobering smell of coffee brewing is back! Having become I think too embroiled in this mess myself because I'm appalled at what erupts, this hurts. I was under the impression in these past two days that the gays bashing (& gay-bashing) was waning. Wrong.
You see, when things appear on _current_ like Prince's opinion, or Elton John's, or 'lets all boycott Utah', it seems the progression from substantive stuff to a mindless non sequitur would give one hope that calm is coming back. Ah well.
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berek
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Topkitty
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berek:
Too true. And I didn't help much, but damn that is funny. Where'd the love go? Where's the tolerance. LOL.
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Topkitty
