Eric Holder: America "Essentially A Nation of Cowards" on Race Discussion
source: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/18/holder.race.relations/
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In a blunt assessment of race relations in the United States, Attorney General Eric Holder Wednesday called the American people "essentially a nation of cowards" in failing to openly discuss the issue of race.
In his first major speech since being confirmed, the nation's first black attorney general told an overflow crowd celebrating Black History Month at the Justice Department the nation remains "voluntarily socially segregated."...Holder urged Americans of all races to use Black History Month as a time to have a forthright national conversation between blacks and whites to discuss aspects of race which are ignored because they are uncomfortable.
Link to rest of story: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/18/holder.race.relations/
Okay, this is not your opportunity to bash Eric Holder. If you feel so moved to, write the guy a letter.
So what do you think? Is America, with a Black President, ready to talk openly and unabashed about race? Okay, everyone make room on the dance floor for the Black/White race dialog battle...and I am sure, we can get some Latino and Asian spice in the mix, since their plight and message seems so overlooked. And then, just for kicks, some racially ambiguous and biracial people can stand on the fence and look at the whole clash. I will be on the turntables scratching an urban rendition of "Koombyah". Let's keep it civil. I think it's important to question people's assumptions, perceptions, beliefs, and feelings about a particular race, their racial understanding and the picture of culture in American life and society. We NEED to talk about this stuff instead of walking on eggshells or calling anyone ballsy enough to bring it up as racist.
I went to YouTube and of course, the n-word was unleashed like a Wimbledon match, people calling Holder a "trader" (their spelling, not mine) and the worst Attorney General ever (after less than 1 month?). I couldn't help but sigh and think if we don't converse about these issues, people are going to slip culturally even further behind in cultural response in the US, and we will sweep these issues further under the rug for the next generation to deal with. Dialog is important...it requires an open mind, the acceptance that sometimes you are ignorant to facts, the capacity to learn, but also to be informed and teach that information to others. Okay, now to the impending chaos...
...are you a coward when it comes to talking about race? If not...prove it. I am curious to know, what has shaped your racial IQ? Family? Friends? School? Experiences (good and bad)? Music? TV? How have you learned what you have learned about other races besides your own? Do you talk to people about these understandings? If so, is it serious? Is it a joke? Is it received well? Let us here on Current be some of the first to partake in the "Courageous Race Discussion"!
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poptart_invasion
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well i grew up in a racist family (only on my father's side). i didn't think anything of it until i called a girl at daycare the n-word. seeing the effect of it was what really threw a stick in the spokes of rasim for me, and frankly im grateful for the experience: theres no telling who i might have become without it.
honestly, i have no clue how much we allow race to influence our actions and choices, where it begins and ends. that said i dont know how i can know how serious or hilarious the issue is for us as a whole. but for me, as an indivual whose father and grandfather dont even consider certain minorities to even be human, it's a pretty serious issue, at least in my home life. - 4 years ago
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poptart_invasion
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HaloedGriot
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poptart_invasion:
Thanks for your candor. You related to the question I asked. That kind of honesty is courageous.
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HaloedGriot
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HaloedGriot
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So basically, no one is going to answer my questions, huh? As long as the poor Whites don't lose their job to Affirmative Action, all is well, huh?
Let me try again...
What has shaped your racial IQ? Family? Friends? School? Experiences (good and bad)? Music? TV? How have you learned what you have learned about other races besides your own? Do you talk to people about these understandings? If so, is it serious? Is it a joke? Is it received well?
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HaloedGriot
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poptart_invasion
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i dont know how much is really "voluntary socially segregated". is it really that much different from other aspects of life (rich, poor, fad fashion, alternative, religion, etc). with all the things we base various subcultures on, what makes race so special? some people choose to let it get in the way of branching out and socializing with those of other subcultures. others don't. big deal.
as to ingorance of facts, i don't know whether or not race based scholorships are or aren't part of affirmative action. if so, JohnA's question was pretty mine. if not, then why have them? why should a less motived or gifted member of a minority have a better chance than a white guy with little cash, anymore than a less motivated or gifted white guy from the late-1800s to mid-1900s have a better chance at life than a more intellegent, more highly skilled and motived black man? - 4 years ago
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poptart_invasion
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When ever I hear a white person in a discussion of race, when trying to prove how not racist they are things are said like; "You know I'm not racist, right?"," I'm not racist, but...".
If a woman were to say, "I'm not a slut but..." "You know not a whore or anything, but..." how would that sound?
I'm just saying, it seems to speak to of lack of "racial inner-security" or a lack of confidence in self when it come to knowing how truly tolerant you really are. No one is or should believe they are as enlightened as they like to think they are. Black , white, asian, ect.
We really need to look into not only the subject, but how we approach it. We must also remember why, to bridge gaps, not to divide us further. In 2040, the nation will be a minority majority nation. It will be sad if our diversity catches up to us before we are intellectual enough understand the significance.
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DazzONE8292
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JohnA [removed]
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How can we have a conversation about race when blacks get so defensive about it? They're not going to give up their victim card no matter who the President is. And besides, is this really a subject we want our Attorney General to concern himself with?
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JohnA [removed]
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HaloedGriot
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JohnA:
Look. I'm Black. We can talk...
so...I am curious to know, what has shaped your racial IQ? Family? Friends? School? Experiences (good and bad)? Music? TV? How have you learned what you have learned about other races besides your own? Do you talk to people about these understandings? If so, is it serious? Is it a joke? Is it received well?
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JohnA:
OK, I have a question then. Doesn't the election of Barack Obama prove that affirmative action is outdated and no longer neccessary? Or do you support the continued government mandated discrimination against white males.
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DazzONE8292
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JohnA:
Has anyone here ever benefited of suffered from affirmative action? How relevant is this, it's still in action?
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HaloedGriot
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JohnA:
JohnA: When people talk about race, do you just use it as your soapbox to talk about Affirmative Action? Doesn't Affirmative Action just look to give the same consideration to minorities as it does Whites? Think about it. For every 10 resumes that get read, if all the people have equal credentials, wouldn't more White resumes get read out of sheer population? Wouldn't that bring similar ideas, beliefs, socioeconomic background and understanding to a company? Wouldn't the company want different perspectives and viewpoints in the challenge to meet demands? Its not as cut and dry as "The White guy lost the job to the Black, Brown and Yellow man." That's automatically assuming their color makes them more or less qualified.
I strongly doubt it affects you personally, JohnA. If that is the case, make your own topic about it and invite me to chime in. Otherwise, answer my questions...unless of course...you're a coward.
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HaloedGriot
