Politics | March 18, 2009 | 11 comments

Diebold Admits ALL Versions of Their Software Delete Ballots Without Notice

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Even the audit log system on current versions of Premier Election Solutions' (formerly Diebold's) electronic voting and tabulating systems --- used in some 34 states across the nation --- fail to record the wholesale deletion of ballots. Even when ballots are deleted on the same day as an election. That's the shocking admission heard today from Justin Bales, Premier's Western Region manager, at a State of California public hearing on the possible decertification of Diebold/Premier's tabulator system, GEMS v. 1.18.19.


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  • AveryMoore
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      AveryMoore  
    • soberwood writes,

      "This electronic voting business was brought about by paper ballots that were not punched correctly, and peope being confused about how a mechanical voting machine works.

      I say people who cannot push a pin through a piece of paper or figure out something simpler to do than run a microwave oven should not have their vote counted in the first place."

      Now let's be real clear on your fabulous logic. OK?

      When you are forced to use a defective product, say drive a rental car somewhere important, or use a banking machine to get money out of your bank - and it fails to work - THAT'S ALL YOUR FAULT?

      When a device you had no part in designing, manufacturing or choosing not to use - screws up - that's your RESPONSIBILITY for not reading the manual before you vote?

      So, let's see that means you wouldn't go back to the rental agent and demand that they get you a car that works, right? Or sue them, if you've lost money for missing an important appointment and failing to close a deal. You'd just say - "Blame me, I'm not worthy of anything"?

      And, if your banking machine screwed you - gave you the wrong amount, or deducted money it owed you - you'd deserve it? Even if you didn't know it had happened?

      Is that the case too?

      Are you that far gone?

      Where are you?

      "This electronic voting business was brought about" by fraud.

      Voters had nothing to do with it.

    • 3 years ago
  • regjoeschmo
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      regjoeschmo  
    • ahh the whole "chad debate"... a technicality that was so much more important than missing and re-appearing ballot boxes....IMHO I believe they had to focus on something to prevent the real problems from getting out. Just because there was a small bit of paper hanging means the vote is invalid?? Not only that but it was a mechanical device that couldnt punch the whole hole properly, people were just pushing buttons.....

    • 3 years ago
  • soberwood
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      soberwood  
    • This electronic voting business was brought about by paper ballots that were not punched correctly, and peope being confused about how a mechanical voting machine works. I say people who cannot push a pin through a piece of paper or figure out something simpler to do than run a microwave oven should not have their vote counted in the first place.

    • 3 years ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • These machines deserve to go in the scrap heap, PERIOD. All contracts with Diebold should be canceled and criminal charges should be waged against the executives of Diebold for election fraud.

    • 3 years ago
  • AveryMoore
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      AveryMoore  
    • jubal:

      Agree absolutely.

      Here's what is worse.

      During the Clinton admin I sent an email to the White House outlining concerns about any computerized vote counting system. I stated that to be fraud-resistant it must have an internal audit trail (as do the best accounting programs) AND provide a printout of how a vote was tabulated.

      The way to confirm election integrity was this - after voting, voters would go to the internet and use a unique symbolic identifier on their print out to check that their vote was

      1/ counted
      2/ registered as intended.

      Did anyone read it?

      My email never was answered.

    • 3 years ago
  • AveryMoore
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      AveryMoore  
    • It is probably too much to ask, but would all those "experts" who insisted without qualification that it was IMPOSSIBLE to rig an election electronically, please go somewhere and die?

      I know I'm being rude, but the stupidity and gross dishonesty of that crew is beyond contemptible.

      To anybody over six, with any experience in the usefulness of "conditional branching" in computer programs it was obvious that a simple IF-THEN-ELSE condition could be hidden in code.

      If vote rigging was desired it could be done electronically by carefully deleting and\or reversing only a fraction of the count. In dictatorships it matters that the junta gets 99% of the vote. But one vote more here is enough to get the prize.

      There is no slicker, quicker way to rig an election than with a black box vote tabulation system controlled by a corporation paid by the same party it wants to win.

      And in all this - where was the media?

      Well look, how did we learn of this latest confession? A blogger at -

      http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6995

      The corporate media can't possibly expire soon enough.

      Democracy needs higher standards of truth and reliability than what is convenient and safe for the media to sell..

    • 3 years ago
  • desertcat
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      desertcat  
    • we should vote as the Romans did with black and white stones and have grade school kids count them. Seems like the only honest election we will get.

    • 3 years ago
  • justadad
  • jahbini
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      jahbini  
    • Al Qaeda only stole a few airplanes, attacked some buildings and killed people.

      There are some who steal elections. These are the tyrants and are the enemies of democracy.

      But those who conspire to create the tools to steal elections? These people are true traitors for they dress tyrants in the democratic robes of respectability.

      No electronic ballots. Imprison the management of Diebold.

      This story must not die. Spread the word.

    • 3 years ago
  • Stradius
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      Stradius  
    • We mustn't let things like this slip past our "newsworthy radar" now that they are out of the spotlight.

      Bad behavior slinks around in the shadows as much as possible.... and this is a BAD thing.

    • 3 years ago
  • WhiteNoise
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