Israel Insults Britain (Again)

Author Karen Armstrong defines "Traditionists" (sorry, I messed up and said "TraditionALists") in her book "A History of God" as the "ahl al-hadith": the people of the hadith - Those Muslims who interpreted the Koran and the hadith (q.v.) literally in order to oppose the rationalistic tendencies of the Mutazilah (q.v.)."

For non-Muslims, I'll define a few words in that definition.

Hadith or plural, ahadith (Arabic): The traditions or collected maxims of the Prophet Muhammad. (Maxim = A succinct formulation of a fundamental principle, general truth, or rule of conduct).

Mutazilah (Arabic): The Muslim sect which attempted to explain the Koran in rational terms.

Shariah Law: The Islamic Holy Law, based on the Koran and the Hadith (q.v.).

"After the period of the Rashidun (the first four 'rightly guided' caliphs), Muslims found that were living in a world very different from the small, embattled society of Medina. They were now masters of an expanding empire, and their leaders seemed motivated by worldliness and greed. There were a luxury and corruption among the aristocracy and in the court that were very different from the austere lives led by the Prophet and his companions. The most pious Muslims challenged the establishment with the socialist message of the Koran and tried to make Islam relevant to the new conditions. A number of different solutions and sects emerged. The most popular solution was found by legists and TRADITIONISTS who attempted to return to the ideals of Muhammad and the rashidun. This resulted in the formation of the Shariah law...The hadith or collected maxims of the prophet are mostly concerned with everyday matters but also with metaphysics, cosmology and theology. A number of these sayings are believed to have been spoken by God himself to Muhammad. These hadith qudsi (sacred traditions) emphasize God's immanence and presence in the believer: one famous hadith, for example, lists the stages whereby a Muslim apprehends a divine presence which seems almost incarnate in the believer: you begin by observing the commandments of the Koran and Shariah and then progress to voluntary acts of piety...(p. 159-160)"

"The Muslims who promoted this type of piety based on the imitation of Muhammad are generally known as the ahl al-hadith, the TRADITIONISTS. They appealed to the ordinary people, because theirs was a fiercely egalitarian ethic. They opposed the luxury of the Ummayad and Abbasid courts but were not in favor of the revolutionary tactics of the Shiah. They did not believe that the caliph need have exceptional spiritual qualities: he was simply an administrator. Yet by stressing the divine nature of the Koran and the sunnah, they provided each Muslim with the means of direct contact with God that was potentially subversive and highly critical of absolute power. There was no need for a caste of priests to act as mediators. Each Muslim was responsible before God for his or her own fate (p. 161)."

What i meant was that the Muslims who are crazy, are obviously terrorists, b/c I don't think sane Muslims would support terrorism.

Again, I'm not going to start history in 1800, Nadar. I'm talking, BCE, BEFORE THE COMMON ERA.

It's great that you have found Secular Jews who have made a video to support your theory. But you can't come up with a theory and then find evidence to support it. You lay ALL of the evidence out on the table, piece it together, and THEN form your theories/conclusions, which may or may not change based upon new evidence found.

The day you find evidence in the form of archeology or written documentation that dates further back than Judaism, I will 100% support you and your people to take over all of Israel. But until then, I just can't agree with you. And no Muslim should ever complain that the Jews bring God and Holy Scripture into the matter, b/c the Muslims do this too. So, Holy Scripture (the Bible and the Koran) in this case, is a reliable source.