Politics | August 15, 2011 | 26 comments

Truth, lies, hypocrisy, and the great disconnect

This comment is dedicated to all of you out there who feel like me.


It has been some time since I last posted, and in between completely relocating to another state-I literally got out of my car and kissed the ground after crossing the Texas line-I thought that it was only fitting that I've let all of you know, those of you who obviously cared so much about my well-being, who sent dozens of e-mails wondering how I was, and where I was, my true leftist friends, know how I was doing, so without further ado, I wanted to let you know I'm doing fine, oh and just in case you didn't know, yes, it was intended to be sarcastic, yet another demonstration of So-called progressive hypocrisy.

I normally write hateful diatribes against the right, since after all, they're anti-human philosophy should be hated, but I have this nasty habit, of pissing off my leftist friends, when I point out their hypocrisy.

It is obvious that I'm hurt, I am hurt because of a lack of support-or concern-from several key people who could have sent some kind words, such as-good luck, I'll miss you, hope things are good with you, let me know how you're doing, or even, heaven fucking forbid, a phone call.

Ergo, the point of this rant. There are many of you who are incredibly intelligent, insightful, and pleasant, unfortunately, many of you are also quite contradictory in your behavior.

If you came to my door, were ragged and obviously distraught, and said you needed food and shelter, that you were part of the resistance to corporate America, and said help me brother, help me comrade, I would, immediately, pure and simple, with few if any questions asked help you, this is what a revolution means, it is being human.

There's the old saying of walking the walk and talking the talk, many folks here can certainly talk the talk, but have a huge disconnect with walking the walk.

If we are going to be unified against the corporate forces against us, we must-as a prerequisite-not just do this in theoretical terms, but in real actual living terms, therein lies the problem.

In the last 20 years, I have conditioned myself not to be a person of fear, but to be one of understanding, I'm not saying I'm fucking Gondi, I'm saying that I choose not to live my life in fear, and it has been quite liberating. A simple case in point, if we so-called liberal/progressive folks here on current are not even willing to talk to each other on the phone, if connecting to each other has become such an idealistic abstraction that in real terms we are so fucking afraid that we cannot even really talk to each other (a real actual live person on the other end of the phone) then how the fuck are we supposed to have any kind of social revolution? How in the fuck are we supposed connect in real terms (you know that bizarre thing of actually talking to a person, or actually sitting down and having a meal with someone who is a complete stranger) if we are not doing something that is tangible, that is my question.

If on the one hand one is constantly complaining about the corporate machine and corporate control over our society, yet absolutely flee in fear when someone is trying to befriend you, can you not see the obvious contradiction? or as an old prostitute-who was a good family friend-one said "being all talk and no fuck" can those of you who have tried to really reach out to-you know who you are-appreciate this?

That's it, that's all I wanted to say, how hurt I am from those that I deeply regarded as friends (as much as that's possible on the Internet) that expect me and others to deeply care about their very legitimate socio-/political tyranny, yet won't even send me an e-mail or give me a call to ask how the hell I'm doing, to have any kind of effective revolution, Jesus H. Christ, before any of you start preaching what "we" should do, do any of you know what Comrade means?

As always I remain V.
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26 comments // Truth, lies, hypocrisy, and the great disconnect

  • ingsoc1984
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      ingsoc1984  
    • I am looking all over this site for your essay on our unfree plutocratic society...I wanted to share this great piece with my followers...Reading your essay, I was struck witht the disturbing notion how truly close to tryranny we really are

    • 9 months ago
  • Frosty46
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      Frosty46  
    • V good to hear of your exodus from Texas. I too, live in a very red state Missouri and can empathize with your feelings on Texas. Good to see you up and about here at Current!

    • 10 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • Frosty46
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      Frosty46  
    • VFORVENDETTA:

      Good to see you back in the saddle too. I live in Missouri and have few friends here. The insanity level here is way too much to tolerate! We have over 25 banks and 30 churches within four miles of our home--both scamming like crazy!
      My current wish is to leave the country and live out my life elsewhere------sick of the grand battle here.

    • 10 months ago
  • treewolf39
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      treewolf39  
    • Glad you made it out of Texas. I have been enjoying summer and a little up swing in work. Not much time for computing while the harvest is on. I fully agree that friendship is better linked to sound and face time. I really enjoy my privacy in the world but I am with you on the need to meet to build and sustain lasting meaningful movements and friendships.

    • 10 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • ClassicalGas
  • Milieu
  • artemis6
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      artemis6  
    • About a year , year and a half ago , there were some get togethers of current people , one in Seattle , another in NY . I was unable to go , but some did . Many of those members are gone away . I really would have like to met some of them , brilliant minds , vital . It had taken us years to get to know each other . It is very safe and very dull , being all words . Many people like it that way . Not all . I suggest an intermediate step , for fleshing this out ..... I am familiar with the phenomena .

    • 10 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • ingsoc1984
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      ingsoc1984  
    • Honestly, I hate the telephone. I would rather either talk to the person in person or at least (if my skype worked)talk to them over the computer. I agree with what George Carlin said about the phone, and I paraphrase: You use the phone simply to tell someone you are going to meet them or what time you will be home. Meeting for a circle jerk, Carlin says, he calls to ask whether he should bring Playboy or Hustler. The thing that makes posting great is that people have to read it and can't interrupt nor can I interrupt them.

      In any event, I understand the idea of this being "friends" with people or being "followers" of people is truly only virtural on the net. You can't truly know who a person is until you have met them and hung out with them for a time.

    • 10 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
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      VFORVENDETTA  
    • ingsoc1984:

      If you have followed any of my postings, you would know that I consider George Carlin one of my patron saints, but this would be one area where I would have to disagree with George for the following reasons.

      There were times when the written word is perfect, as a matter of fact, it can be preferred. If you're writing a dear John letter setting on the mantle for example, it is not intended as a conversation but as a one-way message with your final words on why you have left that person, also, since the person reading the letter already exactly knows how you talk, anything that is said on that paper should not be misconstrued, but even if it was, it wouldn't matter to the person who wrote the letter for obvious reasons.

      It took me a long time-and several girlfriends-to understand what they meant when they would tell me that it was not what I said, but how I said it, that would upset them so, this is where the telephone comes in.

      Even if a person doesn't know you, they will more often than not have a better idea of exactly where you're coming from by your intonations and speech patterns, something obviously not present in the written word, so much more information is transferred in a vocal communication, so being short of a face-to-face person-to-person exchange, it is the next best thing, I rest my case.

      Having said that, I totally agree with the need of actually hanging out with someone for a time in getting to know them, as a matter of fact, I think it's pretty much essential.

      Thanks for the post and the PM, take care.

    • 10 months ago
  • ingsoc1984
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      ingsoc1984  
    • VFORVENDETTA:

      V, I think you are a very special person. I have to apologize however that I have always hated the telephone. Ever since the invention of the home answering machine, I have been in the 8th heaven. When I was teaching, I had a phone in the room. That thing was ringing constantly until I got to the point, I simply took it off the hook. I understand that there are always emergencies and the phone should stay on the hook for that reason alone, but everytime that thing rang, it was simply another excuse for my students to get off point and away from what is going on in class. In one school that I worked, they had this intercom that they used with impunity. I don't know how many times in a day I heard the words "excuse the interruption". But in the end, I took a chair, got up near the intercom, and cut all the wires within. That was the end of the interruptions.

      A good and real friend, not a virtual friend, will call you on the phone and get together with
      you in person.

      By the way, I am not trying to disagree with you or make an argument against you..just commenting because your posts do the best thing: makes me think. Thank you for that.

    • 10 months ago
  • Incredulous
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      Incredulous  
    • Whoa V....not sure what you are talking about altogether, but I suspect there is quite a story behind this rant....luv to hear it if you care to tell it. Didn't know you were gone, but then I haven't been around much either....

      Welcome back...I hope.

    • 10 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • Vic_Romano
  • EdJoyProductions
  • EdJoyProductions
  • VFORVENDETTA
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • WOW, Dude! The ol' double-barrelled "shout" gun trick AND pulling both triggers simultaneously!

      I'm glad that I was not on that "long-time online friends" list! Or I would be feeling about as small as this (.) dot right about now!

      "Now, where's that rock I keep to hide under?", says Mr. or Ms. He's Talking About Me.

      You and I haven't shared words or crossed swords enough for me to be more intimate with you other than a couple of comments since I hopped on board this Current psycho-thrill ride some of whom call a community on June 20th. This place is more like a "gated online community" where what we all know of each other is enough to wave and say "Hi". as we pass through leaving our posts and scurrying back to our protective shield called anonymity.

      Speaking of, the first thing I thought of when I noticed your "screen name" was, "Now, there's a guy that wants to remain incognito! Hell, he even wears a mask!". No first name. Not much there to give me anything to separate you from other VFORVENDETTA folks I've communicated with! Your "screen name" is used by many! Not much posted on your Profile page except an impressive list of movies.

      So, if I may ask with sincerity and in all honesty, why are you attacking others for what you, yourself stand for, i.e., being as anonymous as one can get?

      Me? Why, I'm what people call an "open book". I'll answer ANY question so long as it's asked with honest intentions. What can anyone do to me if they know my name or how old I am? Or what city I reside in? All who give a shit and wants to know who I am, fire away with your questions! But I will reserve the right to keep my address and phone numbers to myself, though. One learns to be cautious, especially at sites like this, Craig's List, etc., because trolls DO exist! But, if one is within range and they suggest a meeting at a pubic location, such as a political rally or march against tyrannical government inequities, I'll be your huckleberry!

      P.S. Do you still live in Albuquerque, New Mexico?

      P.P.S. Let's start over. Hello! My name is Bill. Yes, that's my real first name. What's yours?

    • 10 months ago
  • VFORVENDETTA
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      VFORVENDETTA  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      Thanks for the response, I will respond in parentheses.

      WOW, Dude! The ol' double-barreled "shout" gun trick AND pulling both triggers simultaneously!

      I'm glad that I was not on that "long-time online friends" list! Or I would be feeling about as small as this (.) dot right about now!

      "Now, where's that rock I keep to hide under?", says Mr. or Ms. He's Talking About Me.

      You and I haven't shared words or crossed swords enough for me to be more intimate with you other than a couple of comments since I hopped on board this Current psycho-thrill ride some of whom call a community on June 20th. This place is more like a "gated online community" where what we all know of each other is enough to wave and say "Hi". as we pass through leaving our posts and scurrying back to our protective shield called anonymity.

      (I agree with you completely)

      Speaking of, the first thing I thought of when I noticed your "screen name" was, "Now, there's a guy (or gal) that wants to remain incognito! Hell, he even wears a mask!". No first name. Not much there to give me anything to separate you from other VFORVENDETTA folks I've communicated with! Your "screen name" is used by many! Not much posted on your Profile page except an impressive list of movies.

      (I just recently updated my profile, and I thought that there was more information there than just about movies, I'll recheck it, in the meantime let me clarify, I'm a late 40s married guy named Steve, and although there are many "V"s out there, I am the original, all the others are just fakes and copycats, ha ha, that part was a joke)

      So, if I may ask with sincerity and in all honesty, why are you attacking others for what you, yourself stand for, i.e., being as anonymous as one can get?

      (First of all, my intention was not to "attack" anyone, just venting my frustration at what I perceive to be contradictory behavior, which by any rational objective criteria, is correct, secondly, my supposed anonymity, as I already demonstrated to you, is completely unintentional, and although I would not consider myself to be a "open book" I'll talk about just about anything, but some things are more appropriate for a PM than posting here on the open board.)

      Me? Why, I'm what people call an "open book". I'll answer ANY question so long as it's asked with honest intentions. What can anyone do to me if they know my name or how old I am? Or what city I reside in? All who give a shit and wants to know who I am, fire away with your questions! But I will reserve the right to keep my address and phone numbers to myself, though. One learns to be cautious, especially at sites like this, Craig's List, etc., because trolls DO exist! But, if one is within range and they suggest a meeting at a pubic location, such as a political rally or march against tyrannical government inequities, I'll be your huckleberry!

      (I completely understand and agree)

      P.S. Do you still live in Albuquerque, New Mexico?

      (Allow me to clarify, I just moved here to Albuquerque from Austin Texas, I feel extremely lucky to be here, that state with its fascist governor, is truly going to hell in a handbasket, I could go on and on, but the Austin PD has a policy of shoot first ask questions later, and that's the most liberal city and county in Texas! So if you know someone that you extremely dislike, but they are not aware of how much you dislike them, suggest that they move to Austin, because it's so totally fucking AWESOME!!!

      Just a little side note, I have never come to hate one word so much as the word AWESOME, everything, and I do mean everything, that occurs in Austin, is described by the residents as, you guessed it, AWESOME, if someone comes out of the bathroom from a bar or restaurant after taking a shit, and you were to ask them how it was, they would tell you it was AWESOME! they have a saying there, a moniker, you see it everywhere, usually on bumper stickers, it says: keep Austin weird! what it should say is: keep Austin juvenile! because that's exactly what the fuck it is, extremely juvenile, amongst many many other problems, but it is hands down the only place to live in Texas, does that tell you something?)

      Thanks so much for responding, it is appreciated, take care.

      P.P.S. Let's start over. Hello! My name is Bill. Yes, that's my real first name. What's yours?

    • 10 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • VFORVENDETTA:

      Now that's what I call a double-barrelled word cannon! AND you pulled both triggers again! LOL

      Well, hello Steve! It's a pure pleasure to finally, kinda, sorta meet you! If I have any questions about the whos, whats, wheres and whens, I'll be sure to NOT hesitate to ask!

      There are two words that I care not hear singularly or married...AWESOME, DUDE!

      Dude, in and of itself, is within my tolerance range...but awesome better damn well be used the way it's supposed to be or I get "testy". If I were to receive a $10,000.00/yr. raise, that would meet the criteria of AWESOME! But don't expect to hear me vocalize that. LOL

      And, if your "opening salvo" was not an attack, I'd HATE to see you on a warpath!

      Well, Mr. Steve, I'll see you in the funny papers...I'll be the third one down and one column over!

      L8R!

      }8^) (like my bushy eyebrows? LOL)

    • 10 months ago
  • ingsoc1984
  • EdJoyProductions
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • ingsoc1984:

      I, like you kind Sir, just add my lone voice to the chorus. And I do have quite a few here that would not agree with your statement as to what my "contribution" is here on Current! As a matter of fact, I'm in the middle of a heated discussion now where I am being accused of being naive!

      Whatever floats people's boats, I suppose!

      LOL

    • 10 months ago
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