There's probably no God - Atheist ads appear on buses
source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/21/religion-advertising
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The campaign faltered in the summer due to lack of funding, but Prof. Richard Dawkins has agreed to match fund donations to the campaign; whilst the British Humanist association will also contribute.
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Ragan
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If people prefer to spend their life in religious ignorance that is fine so long as they do not interfere with the politics of the land and practice their religion at home or in the church. If they find solace in this placebo that too is fine. But to feel truly free is the greatest gift. Feeling free is what I had felt the first time I went to sea and was away from land and political influence. I spent 15 years on the sea and I can talk about real freedom. Even if one were in weightless space there is a sense of physical freedom but one must be mentally free too.
- 3 years ago
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Ragan
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Ragan
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Wow...Who would have ever thought that so many people are so afraid of the word atheist. I wonder if someone is just a scientist who had no time for this god propaganda, does that make him an atheist? This is the beginning of the bloodthirsty twentyfirst century and the world is still filled with ignorance and it is costing and causing the flow of too much blood. What with the beheadings and animal sacrifices and religious empires that are doing nothing for the people but are building big fancy ajnd luxurious castles and palaces and calling the churches. How much money are these filthy rich christiandoms spreading to help the homeless and the jobless today. Do you imagine these religious banks fear God enough to stop funding their empires and start spreading their wealth to the helpless and hopeless?
I wonder if they aslo support any of the Charities. I wonder how much church maney went into helping the victims of Katrina? Do the churches fear God enought to really support their congregation? I have never heard of any of the churches showing up at there tragedies, but the Red Cross has always been there. Once the YMCA and the Salvation had facilities for the homeless and needy but that was back then. Uncle Sam loves the religions and churches. They keep the people passive. "Forgive thine enemy" - 3 years ago
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Ragan
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DeliaTheArtist
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Here is a response to these slogans from a woman in england, and my response to her.
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DeliaTheArtist
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nhiks
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i like it. i think bus adverts like this should be printed everywhere - it starts good conversation.
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nhiks
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jh64487
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so i've noticed i enjoy reading the comments more than the article...think it might be time to take a break from current
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jh64487
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HolyCity2012
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jh64487:
I can completely relate, ...
A break from current and pseudo intellectualism....
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HolyCity2012
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joshlewisimmons
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This is awesome. I would most definitely donate money to this campaign if I lived in the UK.
Josh;)
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joshlewisimmons
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ProfessorFunk
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joshlewisimmons:
You can. Anyone can.
Look through the donations. There are hundreds from people all over the world.
Go ahead!
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ProfessorFunk
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kozeki
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If this is the case, Joan Osborne can no longer pose the hypothetical if "God can be one of us or a stranger on the bus."
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kozeki
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Joe_Leo
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Haha! Awesome!!
There should definatly be more of these ads :P
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Joe_Leo
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picKFishStudios
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Great Ad! Its Funny and it makes you think!
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picKFishStudios
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khromadjo
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Believe in yourselves.
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khromadjo
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sgwhites
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While I'm glad to see some variety on bus banners, it kind of makes me sad. What is it about belief (or lack thereof) that makes us feel so compelled to try to bully others into thinking our way?
Personally, I could care less if someone believes in God or not--if you do, great, if you don't, that's great too. The existence of God can't be proven, so why do we feel the need to try and drag everybody to our particular way of thinking?
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sgwhites
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walesjames
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Posting this on buses is irresponsible. One of it's consequences is to encourage close mindedness, in my opinion. There is no preponderance of evidence against the existence of God.
Please understand that biochemistry cannot explain all the functions of the human brain. The chemicals themselves have electromagnetic signatures. These same electromagnetic signatures, when introduced to aqueous solutions, have performed the exact same effects as the associated molecule itself during laboratory tests. These are some modern day questions for you to consider. Follow up on this yourself. This is the cutting edge of science - and future discoveries in this area will be even more relevant to this conversation, in my opinion.
We must consider these questions. If we do not, we are not fully informed. If we are not fully informed, we cannot make rational decisions. - 3 years ago
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walesjames
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khromadjo
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walesjames:
There is also no preponderance SUPPORTING the existence of God, either. Honestly, I think it's a moot point. Science can't disprove the existence of divinity, nor can religion prove it. They're two halves of the same coin.
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khromadjo
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walesjames
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walesjames:
I agree with you, but I don't go as far as calling the point moot. I would assume you agree the sign is a bad idea then as well?
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walesjames
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DeliaTheArtist
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walesjames:
Except one half of the coin relies on evidence to assert fact, and one doesnt.
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DeliaTheArtist
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HolyCity2012
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Critical philosopher Sam Harris, author of The End of Faith: Religion, Terror and the Future of Reason, offers a cogent outline of the dangers inherrent within the ID movement. While the portion of the presentation that he actually discusses the ID movement is brief, maybe 4 minutes or so, he is frighteningly concise and articulate in pointing out the dire ramifications that that this movement has had on both the classroom environment and across the gross politcal spectrum.
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HolyCity2012
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flatone165
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There are plenty fanatics out there who think that God is real ! maybe a bit rash ?
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flatone165
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islek
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Yes, I'll get right on that whole "enjoying my life" thing, with the economy in shambles and the given notion that there may be nothing for me beyond my time on Earth. That sounds REALLY enjoyable, thanks.
One of the stupidest things I've ever seen.
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islek
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crob80227
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Another good banner would be:
"Are you being nice because you enjoy it or only because you fear the Sky God will torture you if you aren't?"
What does that say about people who are only being just, chaste or virtuous because they believe there is a spiritual/metaphiscal gun being pointed at their head?
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crob80227
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jh64487
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crob80227:
you sir (ma'am?) are amazing.
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jh64487
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crob80227
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I like it.
I worry about people who think the world will descend into anarky if there is no God.
"If there is no God then I'll just kill everyone because there will be no consequences!"
Ooooookay. That's one way to go. OR you could just be a nice person because virtue is its own reward? We could try that on and see how it fits.
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crob80227
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jonny2times
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brought to you by "Hypothetical Statements, LLC."
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jonny2times
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zealotohio
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Unsure lol
I've seen Jesus, I've battled demons in my sleep all the time.'
Tell me God isn't real, I'll laugh.
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zealotohio
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zealotohio
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zealotohio:
I wouldn't voice myself for someone I haven't met in person homie. It would be wrong for me to not speak out about my personal experiences.
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zealotohio
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DeliaTheArtist
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zealotohio:
I understand where you are coming from: many people cite "revelations" and personal experiences as their reason for believing in god. I can't tell you what you experienced.
However I will say that what you are talking about is "anecdotal evidence", which is categorized by science as unreliable. If someone who is scientifically minded is asking for "proof", anecdotal stories will not satisfy them because there is little way to assert the legitimacy of the experience. - 3 years ago
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DeliaTheArtist
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aswift1
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I really think this bus needs to take a tour of UTAH! Let's see what happens then!
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aswift1
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thinkingman
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It really is about time the rational thinkers of the world started to redress the balance of the absurdity of the religious non-thinkers with their programmed and inherited nonsense. The rage and indignation aroused in the religious community by the simple act of challenging their nonsense really is quite amazing. I would always be willing to discuss any idea or premise presented to me. If the religiosos belief is so strong, why will they not properly discuss their evidence, or should I say, total lack of evidence.
In truth I have reached a level of boredom in wanting to argue the absurd myths of believers. And for them, I suppose it is difficult to spend time wondering why the creator of the universe would also be concerned as to the length of ones beard or whether the Pope is infallible in all matters spiritual. Much better to get out there and kill a few people who don't agree with you....especially if there's a line-up of virgins as your reward. That's not a bit sexist is it? Incidentally, what is the deal for gay Muslim suicide bombers.
These deeply theological questions are just too much for me, I'm off to consider the nature of existence as a bit of light relief.
Yours, Thinkingman - 3 years ago
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thinkingman
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LDM
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I'm surprised these adverts will be allowed as they may offend muslims, If these adverts are aimed at all believers in God not just christians, will the muslims declare a fatwa on Richard Dawkins and others?
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LDM
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rainbowryan420
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i might have said this before but i will repeat myself
atheists and Christians are exactly the same(most of) them walk around bitching about each other and try to recruit as many people as possible
its f*cking ridiculous
if your Christan can be christian without trying to "save" people because that is why a lot of people hate you
and if atheists can go ahead an not believe in god while keeping it to themselves
the world would be a lot less bitchy
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rainbowryan420
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rainbowryan420:
good point
but if you look at Penn and Teller and then you look at a bible thumper yelling at people on the side of the road
they seem quite similar
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rainbowryan420
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HolyCity2012
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rainbowryan420:
I am positive that "animalia_libero" is neither Penn or Teller. So what is your point?
Penn A Teller are not the spokesman for Rational Humanist
Your point is invalid.
Show me Dawkins, Dennet or Harris acting like in-your-face personalities for a television audience and you will have something to work with but until then........
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HolyCity2012
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rainbowryan420
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rainbowryan420:
i didn't say animalia_libero was either of them and apparently you don't know what my point was so you can't call it invalid
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petarro
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So, I assume this enjoy your life is to fuck anything that talks, eat anything that walks and kill anyone who messes up with you?
While Religions are not that Flexible, no one is imposing them on you, unless you Live in some Islamic country.
Live your Life and let those who want to live it like they want as well.
I decided to Live my Life, Now. Here is my add:
"Forget about Religions if you don't care about them, Let me Live and you go Live as well."
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petarro
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petarro
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petarro:
animalia, then what is your point. Religion cuts us from certain pleasures which to me are Good not to have. Leave everyone alone.
If atheists don't want to see me here Preaching, they better Back Off from other people beliefs. (until the point they harm you)
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petarro
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jh64487
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petarro:
homosexuality and abortion right in america. oh also, evolution not being taught in school
that is religion trying to enforce its beliefs on me.
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jh64487
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DeliaTheArtist
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petarro:
There is typically not a problem when people don't let their religious beliefs interfere with government action. Unfortunately around the world religion is very prevalent in government systems. This results in unequal representation and laws based around religious dogma. In America, that is against the nature of the government which is supposed to be secular and separate from religion.
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DeliaTheArtist
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ifthatsalright
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I love this. What a spectacular idea. I wish this was happening in the U.S.
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ifthatsalright
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karrer
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Why not just:
"If God exists, kill yourself."
Then everybody wins. No?
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karrer
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Hendrix_Is_God
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karrer:
I'm afraid suicide is a "mortal sin".
You can't rush paradise, sucks don't it? - 3 years ago
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Hendrix_Is_God
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orchidsofdesire
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karrer:
I literally laughed out loud
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orchidsofdesire
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dankitti
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I think there IS a God, but that's just me.
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dankitti
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Hendrix_Is_God
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dankitti:
In my view people who believe in God haven't been educated in why he doesn't exist. Have you ever been taught philosophy and the God arguement? If not, then its understandable that you still believe in a God.
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Hendrix_Is_God
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CCashman
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dankitti:
Don't be so harsh, Hendrix. There are plenty of reasons to believe in a God, a bunch of gods, or a supernatural force. Personally, I don't believe those reasons are right, but that's my opinion, and people are entitled to their opinions. Let's leave it at that.
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CCashman
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Hendrix_Is_God
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dankitti:
Yes, a fair point, but I still believe that if people were taught philosophy in this case the God arguement, they're would be alot more atheist's out there.
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Hendrix_Is_God
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CCashman
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dankitti:
There are philosophical arguments for God/gods/supernatural forces, too. Once again, I personally don't believe them to be right, but there are those who do. I'm just trying to give everyone a fair shake.
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CCashman
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dankitti:
faith means belief in something for which we have no evidence. I have faith in God- I believe that if there was no higher power we would not have so many scientific quandaries with no explanations... God is in the science... Don't mock our faith because you have none.
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aswift1
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dankitti:
why does it always have to go to that?
somehow, you take for a fact that people who believe in God are uneducated or haven't been exposed to the theory that there is no God?
here's a damn good quote by a very smart man:
"Sooner or later you just figure out there are some guys who don't believe in God and they can prove He doesn't exist, and some other guys who do believe in God and they can prove He does exist, and the argument stopped being about God a long time ago and now it's about who is smarter"
- Donald Miller
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the_night_diver
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Hendrix_Is_God
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Ahahahahahaha genius. Richard Dawkins you gem.
I'm an Atheist and its hightime people started seeing atheist posters about the place!!!
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Hendrix_Is_God
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fuhleesha
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I love this. By my logic, I'm going to live my life as if there is no God (which by the way is no different than the way I lived when I was a die hard Christian), and when I die, if there's a God, he'll probably forgive me. Isn't that his MO?
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fuhleesha
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tanyetta
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I wonder if they have t-shirts like that.
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tanyetta
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HeroMAY
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The Madness Continues...
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HeroMAY
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themanwithadog
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A big welcome to more wind up merchants.
They make the world a happier place to the likes of the "keep smiling brigade"
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jonbrooks
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I dont like the use of the word "probably" whats the point? its like saying there might be a God so it has the reverse effect!
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jonbrooks:
I think they had to say that...
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jonbrooks:
Well, there's no way to prove God, but there's also no way to unprove him. There's plenty scientific fact that makes very little sense, so it makes perfect sense to include the probably.
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Nettle
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jonbrooks:
Did you know that Dawkins believes in the possibility of aliens, but denies the possibility of God?
This guy does not have it all figured out.
Neither do I, but I'll freely admit that. All I ask is that atheists keep an open mind to all possibilities. - 3 years ago
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walesjames
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HolyCity2012
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Can we replace "Atheist" with the title of "rational"?
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
Word, but the 2 are different. I've met mad irrational atheists.
Assholes everywhere.
Fuck religion.
XVX for life, R.A.S.H. 'til death.
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aquamammal
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purplefox
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Haha, there're atheist flyerers on Princes Street as well, posing as Mormons and Hari Krishnas in the way they come up to you and ask you about your day - except then they give you leaflets on evolution. Why not, eh? At least they don't make you shout garanga or buy a Book of Mormon.
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purplefox
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purplefox:
hahah that's amazing
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orchidsofdesire
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dirtyemowords
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haha! Those tottenham court road guys are psychos! I think it's great. They should do t-shirts with the slogan, that'd raise funds pronto. EVERYONE loves a slogan on a t-shirt.
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dirtyemowords
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abbym0308
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This I like. I always enjoy campaigns that get under most people's skin...
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abbym0308
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Beta_Boy
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Wow, athiest lobbyists. I don't think they have any hope of matching the funds of the church but I like their style.
I believe I live in a multi-cultural society but I only ever see adverts for Christian groups (oh and the Scientologists on Tottenham Court Road).
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Beta_Boy
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Owwmykneecap
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Beta_Boy:
Is that the Scientology place beside Casino arcade?
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Owwmykneecap
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themanwithadog
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Beta_Boy:
It is also next to the hallowed halls of the Macdonalds religous structure
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themanwithadog
