The true origin of Thanksgiving.....
source: http://www.powwows.com/gathering/general/469-true-origin-thanksgiving.html
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- regjoeschmo
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A look into what really happened when the pilgrims came here, and how thanksgiving was really started........
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queenofit
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Excellent reminder, thanks for the post.
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queenofit
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HolyCity2012
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Thanksgiving Prayer by William Burroughs
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012
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HolyCity2012:
Thanksgiving Prayer by William Burroughs
Thanks for the wild turkey and
the passenger pigeons, destined
to be shit out through wholesome
American guts.Thanks for a continent to despoil
and poison.Thanks for Indians to provide a
modicum of challenge and
danger.Thanks for vast herds of bison to
kill and skin leaving the
carcasses to rot.Thanks for bounties on wolves
and coyotes.Thanks for the American dream,
To vulgarize and to falsify until
the bare lies shine through.Thanks for the KKK.
For nigger-killin' lawmen,
feelin' their notches.For decent church-goin' women,
with their mean, pinched, bitter,
evil faces.Thanks for "Kill a Queer for
Christ" stickers.Thanks for laboratory AIDS.
Thanks for Prohibition and the
war against drugs.Thanks for a country where
nobody's allowed to mind the
own business.Thanks for a nation of finks.
Yes, thanks for all the
memories-- all right let's see
your arms!You always were a headache and
you always were a bore.Thanks for the last and greatest
betrayal of the last and greatest
of human dreams. - 3 years ago
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HolyCity2012
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onechance
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Save a Turkey, Eat Tofurky!
It's amazing.
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onechance
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themanwithadog
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Tony Blair ( formerly known as the poodle of Bush) said he was sorry and apologised to the suffering this country bestowed on the slaves imported from Africa.Personally I think he did this in an attempt to glorify his name in history as he remains a big shit to me.
He is now trying to sort out some sort of stabilisation of the troubles in Middle East ( many of which he and the other shit Bush are personally responsible for)Has anyone said "SORRY" to what they inflicted on the Indian Nations? Knowing the pride they have I would not be surprised to tell anyone who insults them with a simple sorry to shove it where the sun don`t shine
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themanwithadog
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Brockie
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The puritans are the best example I can think of as to why the church and state should be seperate. They tried to force their religion on everyone at gun point.
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Brockie
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FallenMorgan
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This brings up why we celebrate Columbus Day...he wasn't that much of a great guy and he was the vanguard for the genocide of the Native Americans.
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FallenMorgan
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HolyCity2012
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FallenMorgan:
Columbus Day Celebration?
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HolyCity2012
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fun_size
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Personally i never really cared much about the history of the holiday. It has always been a time for my extended family to join my immediate family for dinner, something that only happens a few times a year.
I do find it disgusting however, that we continue to knowingly teach our children false truths about this holiday and about the history of our subjugation of the native peoples of this land. One of my distant relatives came to America on the Mayflower and knowing what the pilgrims did to the Native Americans... it makes me almost disgusted with myself
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fun_size
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phillyphil
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"In the midst of the Holocaust/Genocide of the Red Man and woman, Governor Dudley declared in 1704 a "General Thanksgiving" not to celebrate the brotherhood of man, but for:
[God's] infinite Goodness to extend His Favors... In defeating and disappointing.... the expeditions of the Enemy [Indians] against us, And the good Success given us against them, by delivering so many of them into our hands..."
nice.... thanksgiving and columbus days are the best!! plus, we get to massacre millions of turkeys (or turduckins)!!! ya nationalism!!!
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phillyphil
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Vierotchka
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Unless my memory fails me, the "Pilgrims" were rabid Puritans who tried to ram their beliefs down the throats of everyone and who were rejected by England where people moved away from any area where they set up homes. They then migrated to Holland and tried the same kind of shit and were rejected for the same reasons. So, when they sailed to America, they tried the same shit on the indigenous people. They are the roots of the WASPs and the Republicans.
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Vierotchka
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cyman01
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Vierotchka:
everything u stated is correct except that the pilgrims and the puritans were two separate sects
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cyman01
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Vierotchka
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Vierotchka:
Not really, they in fact were in many ways one and the same - I think I was partly right. See:
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Vierotchka
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arcticspirit
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I am glad that tradition has changed.
Today, I use the day to reflect over all that I am thankful for in even greater detail than usual, it's a beautiful day.I do remember the past, and grieve for the Native Americans slain, but that is an ongoing thing for me, not just on Thanksgiving day.
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arcticspirit
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AlbeeYap
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Twisting history to "his" story is absurd. People need hear the truth and realization of what really happened on Thanksgiving.
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AlbeeYap
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cyman01
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the first T-day was out of desperation on both sides,pilgrims and Native Americans. food was scarce,both sides were starving so resources were pooled.
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cyman01
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metalcookiesxy70
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The Native Americans were killed and slaughtered by the Europeans, who later called themselves Americans....there was no thanks or any giving in the end, just eating and controlling domination over one another, in other words; War.
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metalcookiesxy70
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arcticspirit
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metalcookiesxy70:
then again, that was the "way" society was made back then. Totally WRONG.
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arcticspirit
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metalcookiesxy70
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metalcookiesxy70:
Thanks articspirit,
That's why you are my friend..
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metalcookiesxy70
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FallenMorgan
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The Europeans back then were very different from how they are now. They thought they had a mandate from God that said that the whole world belonged to them.
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FallenMorgan
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unimatrix0
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Instead of "thanksgiving" it should be called "thanks-taking".
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unimatrix0
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tanyetta
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We all know that thanksgiving was in itself a sham. If the Europeans were that damn nice, we would have a full happy Native American population. Where are the Indians? Oh yeah on reservations with casinos as a reliable income. That doesn't sound like thanks and giving to me.
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tanyetta
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FallenMorgan
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The Europeans back then were major assholes.
Thanks for sharing this.
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FallenMorgan