Gunman kills four, then himself in Kentucky factory shooting

well most people in canada carry weapons and yet their crime rate is way lower than ours. I think its the fact that its so hard for us to obtain weapons legally and so easy to get them illegally, and the fact that our population is more focused into localized areas.

So true, and I applaud your understanding.

Ah yeah....a TANK...run those suckers over. Some weapons should be limited to certain areas where they are more viable and most are not in citizens hands. Especially crazed ones, let alone how reasonable it would be to state that about governments and weapons.

That tank comment was humor.

I knew that Marilynn. ;-) Mine was too. Though proves a point. Even without legal access to a Tank, a criminal can still get his hands on one. Something to consider. Drugs are illegal. And yet people gain access to them. I agree that a ban on guns would likely decrease gun crime, but at what cost to the constitution and the meaning and reasoning behind the 2nd amendment. It will be interesting to hear what the Supreme Court says today about the hand gun ban in DC.

A tank would be pretty hard to hide. and just leaving it out on the lawn would scare away anybody...TANKS FOR EVERYBODY!!

/exaggeration.

in science you compare things that are similar. If America was to model itself after another country (seeing how that's the sole reason it broke away from one) that other country would have to be similar enough to America for it to be worth modeling.

Otherwise it's like asking a cat to model itself after a whale. It just doesn't work that way.

Wise up America and see that one guy doesn't take away your rights to the 2nd amendment.

What ever happened to personal responsibility? This socialist rhetoric above is ridiculous. 6 people are dead because of an idiot, and you want millions of americans to give up a right?

It seems the media and this administration has done a number on you indeed.

How do you suppose we get rid of illegal firearms owned by criminals?

You round up all those that have illegal fire arms. You take all the ones that are in jail for having them. You put them in a big fat arena and you let them shoot each other to death. The last one standing gets to bask in the bloody aftermath. Then there will be a lion, a tiger and a bear released to attack them. Should this lone gunman survive those three they will have to go without food for 5 days and water 7 and if they are still alive all those who are family members of the ones that were slaughtered in this Roman like entertainment will throw rocks at him (or her) until they die.

It will be a reality show called Justice Beyond the Second Amendment.

This isnt a b/w issue for me ither but lets look at this. This 1 man, a gun owner/possessor, has killed 5 people including himself. If there were a ban on hand gun ownership then these people may have not died. Taking into account the 178,877 gun deaths between 2000 and 2005 (Via CDC) and everything from 2005 to the present, thats a lot of people, that would still be alive, alot of brothers and sisters and mothers and fathers who would be around to care for their children and loved ones, these victims who died unnecessarily.
Simply because our government is unable to let go of a well intentioned and out dated protection.

J_Jammer... so much for cruel and unusual.

Very good point Carolyn, and thanks for the link to your Current article.

Much like many of the shootings in the past, I'd bet this guy was on MAO inhibitors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_inhibitor

My guess would be he was effected by the poison fumes from the plastic.

I agree on that point. The citizens need to have a way to protect themselves from a rogue despotic government in being able to form a militia. That is the real meaning of the 2nd amendment... not the way it has been warped by organzations like the NRA. No one should have the ability to just walk around with an uzi to point it in my face just for the hell of it. We need to have the 2nd amendment but we need to enforce it.

Well then.. Just grab the part of my comment for the news that voices the gun ban, and leave out the rest. Nice.

/regret

Already been there. Thanks.

People claim that there are other countries that have this amount of different people in their mist, but they don't. That is a contributing factor to why so many unique things like this happens here because of the many different types of people that are allowed to be.

12 RECENT SCHOOL/TEEN SHOOTERS UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF
PSYCHIATRIC DRUGS

Resulting in 54 Killed

And 105 Wounded

* Dekalb, Illinois – February 14, 2008: 27-year-old Steven Kazmierczak shot and
killed five people and wounded 16 others before killing himself in a Northern
Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been
taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had
trace amount of Xanax in his system

* Omaha, Nebraska – December 5, 2007: 19-year-old Robert Hawkins killed
eight people and wounded five before committing suicide in an Omaha mall.
Hawkins’ friend told CNN that the gunman was on antidepressants, and autopsy
results confirmed he was under the influence of the “anti-anxiety” drug Valium

* Jokela, Finland – November 7, 2007: 18-year-old Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric
Auvinen had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and
wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School in southern Finland, then
committed suicide.

* Cleveland, Ohio – October 10, 2007: 14-year-old Asa Coon stormed through
his school with a gun in each hand, shooting and wounding four before taking
his own life. Court records show Coon had been placed on the antidepressant
Trazodone.

* Blacksburg, Virginia – April 16, 2007: The psychiatric drug history of Seung-Hui
Cho in the Virginia Tech Massacre was never made public. Initial reports stated
that “depression medication” was found among Cho’s belongings. But neither
his toxicology reports, nor his recent medical history were ever released to find
out whether Cho had been in withdrawal from psychiatric medication. (33 were
killed and 29 injured, but this was not included in the total of dead and wounded
cited above.)

* Red Lake, Minnesota – March 2005: 16-year-old Jeff Weise, on Prozac, shot
and killed his grandparents, then went to his school on the Red Lake Indian
Reservation where he shot dead 7 students and a teacher, and wounded 7
before killing himself.

* Greenbush, New York – February 2004: 16-year-old Jon Romano strolled into
his high school in east Greenbush and opened fire with a shotgun. Special
education teacher Michael Bennett was hit in the leg. Romano had been taking
“medication for depression”.

* El Cajon, California – March 22, 2001: 18-year-old Jason Hoffman, on the
antidepressants Celexa and Effexor, opened fire on his classmates, wounding
three students and two teachers at Granite Hills High School.

* Williamsport, Pennsylvania – March 7, 2000: 14-year-old Elizabeth Bush was
taking the antidepressant Prozac when she shot at fellow students, wounding
one.

* Conyers, Georgia – May 20, 1999: 15-year-old T.J. Solomon was being treated
with antidepressants when he opened fire on and wounded six of his classmates.

* Columbine, Colorado – April 20, 1999: 18-year-old Eric Harris and his
accomplice, Dylan Klebold, killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 26
others before killing themselves. Harris was on the antidepressant Luvox.
Klebold’s autopsy reports were never released.

* Notus, Idaho – April 16, 1999: 15-year-old Shawn Cooper fired two shotgun
rounds in his school, narrowly missing students. He was taking a prescribed
SSRI antidepressant and Ritalin.

* Springfield, Oregon – May 21, 1998: 15-year-old Kip Kinkel murdered his
parents and then proceeded to school where he opened fire on students in the
cafeteria, killing two and wounding 22. Kinkel had been taking the
antidepressant Prozac.