Wealthcare
source: http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/wealthcare-0
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The current era of Democratic governance has provoked a florid response on the right, ranging from the prosaic (routine denunciations of big spending and debt) to the overheated (fears of socialism) to the lunatic (the belief that Democrats plan to put the elderly to death). Amid this cacophony of rage and dread, there has emerged one anxiety that is an actual idea, and not a mere slogan or factual misapprehension. The idea is that the United States is divided into two classes--the hard-working productive elite, and the indolent masses leeching off their labor by means of confiscatory taxes and transfer programs.
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- US Politics, Capitalism, Free Market, Ayn Rand, 1 more
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privateibber
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I know someone who is quite the right winger. Not a neocon but just without tolerance for those more liberal than he is. About a year ago he mentioned that he picked up "you wouldn't believe what, although I had read it in college" he said. It was Ayn Rand,,,the one on objectivism that has the word ego mentioned five hundred times in the first eight pages.
He looked at me with a sort of knowing and was sure that he could convince me to read it again as it was "so timely."
You are right saladin. I am going to re read the posted article here. - 2 years ago
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privateibber
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Saladin
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Excellent article, I've always picked up on a sort of cult personality coming from those kinds of right-wingers.
Now I know that I wasn't too far off, Rand literally HAD a cult. Its similarity to totalitarian communism is a delicious irony.
This guy just demolishes her ideas too. And not even with commentary or blog snarkiness, just straight data.
- 2 years ago
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Saladin
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privateibber
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Rand wrote the pre script of WALL STREET. Her stuff is SOOOO one sided. She reminds me of a self help book that wraps itself in some kind of monetary/sprirituality combo.
She is right on only half of what makes up an entire human being. - 2 years ago
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privateibber
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privateibber
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The money paid to insurance companies can go straight to the doctors and the hospitals.
Check the states where there is tort reform. They have just as many problems. Someone can cut off the wrong leg and nobody will take the case. That's not cool either.I wish people would know who and what is considered "A TORT" and go from there. The Post office is a Tort. Nobody should be immune from prosecution if they kill someone because they didn't follow procedure or did something else to hurt someone. Wonder if TORT reform holds up for doctors who refuse a sobriety test before surgery.
Wouldn't it be cheaper to hire one overseer in every surgery room from sworn professional that all was followed correctly. Suits can only be brought to term if negligence is shown. The good old boys networks know how to cover up really well and the insurance frauders know how to work the system. There is bad on both sides. Clean up what causes bad outcomes and we'll have fewer of them. - 2 years ago
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privateibber
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michaelraven
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There can't be healthcare reform, without tort reform.
Every year, the average age of doctors in Pennsylvania goes up by one. That means there's no new doctors coming to practice here.
What incentive is there to become a doctor anymore? The risk isn't worth the juice.
Maybe I'll just become another lawyer.
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michaelraven
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nursediesel
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michaelraven:
Amen, michaelraven, I've been saying this the malpractice insurance here in the "land of litigation" is phenomenal!
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nursediesel
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thewarnerla
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wow, i don't think were in Kanas anymore.
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thewarnerla
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asherp
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This article should have been called "the Cult of Ayn Rand"
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asherp
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nursediesel
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He's said more than Republicans are assholes.... (BTW, there are assholes on both sides) He's said white people are evil and the polluters of the earth and that the Indians and black man have been abused by whites and are now going to get there revenge against the white man.
He's a victim! Wow! 'got pretty far being a victim....didn't he. Using the race card and the victim card got him a cushy job, but he just couldn't keep has mouth shut long enough to hold on to it. - 2 years ago
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nursediesel
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privateibber
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nursediesel:
Yes, she is one of those convenient historical characters that can be pulled out and become the new chic. Pull 'em out and dust 'em off.
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privateibber
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jeanest
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yea
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jeanest
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CalgarC
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jeanest:
lmfao i love maher
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CalgarC
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lifeinaraindrop
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From the previous posts, I think everything has already been said that could be about Rand's books. While they are a great read, those who worship them as any new device or proof to subjugate themselves to such a bizarre philosophy. For those who quote John Galt, IT'S FICTION, plain and simple.
The stories devised seem to construct merit of her term of philosophy, and at times, DO become a bit too tongue-in-cheek to suggest liberalism would ever lead to perpetual communism as suggested in Atlas Shrugged.
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lifeinaraindrop
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privateibber
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lifeinaraindrop:
FABULOUS POST LIFEINARAINDROP!!!
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privateibber
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Acedia
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I'm amused at how so many conservatives, who are so quick to condemn atheism and slander atheists, simultaneously worship the economic ideas set forth by Ayn Rand.
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Acedia
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thecoyote23
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I am about as liberal as they come, but I enjoy Ayn Rands books. I have read Anthem, Atas Shrugged, The Fountainhead, and Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal. She makes a lot of great points about human potential and will, but the philosophy is as utopian as true communism. The big thing missing from her philosophy, and that of the right, is that not every person can be successful or be brilliant and innovative. Thats the thing about economics, its all based on scarcity, but that doesn't mean that all because someone is not capable of succeeding that they should have an unnecessarily low quality of life, while those who are brilliant and successful wallow in enough to wealth to feed, clothe, house, educate, and provide healthcare to a small country, like many of the top 1% in the country today.
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thecoyote23
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thecoyote23
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thecoyote23:
Socialism isnt Utopian, unless of course you consider Norway to be Utopian, and well, when I was there it was an awfully nice place.
Which country slid down that slippery slope? You are in it genius.
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thecoyote23
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privateibber
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chime in
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privateibber
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privateibber
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Here one can read Ayn Rand O'Connor's full testimony before the House Un American Activities Committee. That was the one with the Hollywood Ten and Senator Joseph McCarthy == for the younger bloggers. It was a bit of a witch hunt. Many lives ruined. Some weren't even guilty of anything. In the films I've seen on McCarthy's hearings, he reminded me of a rabid dog with advanced paresis.
Her books are really good reading. I just think her testimony referring to The Best Years of Our LIves being MARXIST...it's art Ann, art. There was also D.W. Griffith who did Birth of A Nation. Good thing they had no hearings on that one.
The Soviet Union was not a picnic place but Rand should not be taken too seriously as she has only one theme and wraps it around her books the same way an ultra altruist might wrap a bit of pink in his work.
Wonder what she thought of life under the Romanovs.
Despots, whether left or right are all the same. Just have salutes that are different and the goosesteps have different meter and choreography. I think her books are good, likely healing for her to write. Not necessarily gospel. Personal fiction. - 2 years ago
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privateibber
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dagnytaggart
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This article presents an excellent history of health care in the United States. In order to know where we are going, it's good to know where we've been.
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dagnytaggart
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nursediesel
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dagnytaggart:
Good post, shows you how the US government FUBARed the insurance companies into such a state that helped cause the so called healthcare crisis. And yet there is still a large group of naive people that want MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL in the healthcare field!!! I've been saying more regulations but that's not the answer either....
The taking over of the countries finances has been incidious but gaining ground faster and faster. We are giving up our freedoms one by one.
Kick out the career politicians. The legal eagles finding ways to usurp the taxpayers rights with their knowledge of the loopholes in the laws. - 2 years ago
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nursediesel
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slovelett
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Mr. Chait sums up my opinion on Rand's philosophies in this paragraph: "The economic right may believe religiously in their moral view of wealth, but we do not have to respect it as we might respect religious faith. For it does not transcend--perhaps no religion should transcend--empirical scrutiny. On the contrary, this conservative view, the Randian inversion of the Marxist worldview, rests upon a series of propositions that can be falsified by data." In other words it may sound compelling at first, but upon closer inspection is just wrong.
But perhaps what really annoys me (and it's related to the fact that this philosophy is not based in fact), is that I'm very content with my liberal elitism and I don't like it when conservatives think they're the elites.
(p.s. The second paragraph is intended to be somewhat sarcastic)
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slovelett
