It Ain't Natural

I don't care WHAT he say. MY butt IS made for that.

Ted Haggard: muahahahahahahah!!!

sometimes, God Speaks... even to a NeoCon Oblivion Preacher!
but in mysterious ways... Haggard & P&P / PnP

FOLEY! those zany Republicans... damn! it just keeps getting better & better, doesn't it?

*snicker*

MegaChurch NeoCon Evangelical gets dumped from closet by his BoyToy

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Spread Love...
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Oh, and to the person making the comment about noticing tins who are different, that is direct genetics, bu tthat doesn't mean so much. CCertian genes are "activated" byu the body, while others are not. I have two brothers who are identical twins, and one is at shoulder height of the other!

Oh God, I really do try to be tolerant about different opinions, but who the crap let Mr. Soapbox pulpit under me in? And what the hell do you mean by shem? And since when did gay people try and turn it into a "way of life?" I'm sort of confused about you worrying about us turnng other people gay >.>

Dean Hamer is bugging.. You are lunching... how dare you use Corretta Scott King and flipped this. you are dead wrong. This is a terrible piece of work.. in fact it's trash. Wison is right... IT AIN"T NATURAL. The homosexual community is trying everything they go to turn a sinful lifestyle into a way of life. There is man and woman.... and a man should be with a woman.. and a woman should be with a man. And who in the world is that drag in this piece... SHEM is a mess. THAT"S RIGHT I SAID.. SHEM is a mess..

This is a great video, thank you so much for including the trans/drag performer. It is so important that our community not sit around trying to conform, we need to be proud of our diversity. And that is why the Human Rights Campaign does not speak for me.

Let me just one thing...the transexual in this video seems a LOT more pleasant, and intelligant than Reverend Wilson. The graphic nature of his speech is quite disturbing....seriously....

I'm doing some work for the Human Rights Campaign now, you should get this to them. Good reporting

I feel sorry for folks like this Reverend who think that S-E-X is all about sticking something somewhere... What a sad, small, and very backwards world this man lives it.

Thank you for always enlightening us!! It is beyond words to thank you for your work! Just keep it coming and I'll keep spreading it in efforts of educating everyone!!!
Thank you Mr. Hamer!!!

Are there torpedoes waiting in hell with names of the many straight men who love anal?
Homophobes are quick to mention the old testament, but if homosexuality is so immoral, why did Jesus Christ on whom Christianity is based not make any mention of it -- not one instance? Jesus was about love, he wasn't into what consenting adults practiced in their bedrooms. Mr Preacherman obviously gets an erotic thrill by talking about this.
What ain't natural is hatred and I'm sorry to break it to you Mr Preacherman, but you ain't Jesus either!

Just learned this is going on air, so thanks again to everybody for their support. Just for the record, I did not selectively edit Wilson's comments. I took his exact words, spoken in his own voice, from a recording that was made of the sermon. Then I simply interspersed them with comments from critics. You can hear the excerpt at link
I am a big believer in letting people speak for themselves.

Great story -
DC not San Francisco is the real place where the struggle will be won. Wonder when God became the spiritual equivalent of a country club? cw

Dean Hamer hits it right on the head! another outstanding piece of work. I was going to green light it but, its already going to TV. Great Work Dean

Great work.

Nice work, Dean!

If anybody and that's everyone should be created as equal, God didn't put us on this earth to hate each other now I know it's wrong to be gay an it ain't right but God also gave us the right to be who we are inside. Some people in this world today judge other people by the cover of their book, but to not get to know a person before you talk about them is wrong. BEING GAY IS WRONG BUT i THINK IT'S WRONG TO TALK ABOUT IT, OK SO SOME PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD TODAY CAN'T LEAVE WITH A GAY COUPLE IN THEIR COMMUNITY SO WHAT YOU CAN'T JUST KICK OUT OF THAT NEIGHBOR hood YOU GOT TO ACCEPT THEM FOR WHO THEY ARE INSIDE AND LiVE WITH i MEAN GOD WANTS us all to get along and I think thats what we should do instead of worrying about how people are gay or if you should allow this to go on well I think we should let each other leave in peace if God didn't want gay people on this earth he would of never let it happen.

all in the name of jesus...?
amazing how humans blame all sorts of evil on god
what happend to love thy neighbor as thy sellf?
as a child of a preacher i am thankful my father never got into this kind of stuff and he is still a loving accepting minister.
great piece!!!

Religion is the selling of spirituality and thats something you can't sell. Spirituality is gained through experience.

I feel sorry for this preachers followers.

I feel sorry for Reverend.
GL - oh, youre already on AIR :)

Great pod. Greenlight for sure. I often wonder why men are so obsessed with abortion, anal sex, etc.? This kind or rhetoric (and many others) is exactly why so many of my Catholic brother and sisters are turned off by the church.

Gotta love so called free speech...

can you provide some direct quotes?

This guy ain't helping things - he's making matters worse.

the video is heavily biased. Also, the full sermon has been chopped up so that you only hear bits and pieces. of course, i agree that its not right to bash anyone in a condescending manner, which from the video clip i do not see happening. I just see him saying how its unatural.

I think the preacher has valid points. I don't believe homosexuality is genetic, i believe its a lifestyle choice.

I have seen identical twins, where one guy was gay and the other was straight..explain that. Also, i've never seen a gay baby or child walking around sashaying or talking with a lisp because they were gay from the moment they came out of the womb. this is cultural and a lifestyle choice.

and yes when two women or two men have sex, obviously theres no reproduction, so obviously its NOT what "mother nature intended".

however, its not right to BASH anyone. So if he did in his sermon, he is wrong for that. but if i rewind and listen closely, i cant hear any of that. can you? please quote

People like this and dogma like that are exactly what turned me away from religion altogether.

As a lesbian, it does SORT of offend me but I know he seriously doesn't know the truth but the scary and yet sad part is that there are probably young and impressionable children and teens in his congregation that will probably keep that kind of bigotry, hatred, and homophobia alive. One good question for him is: how does he know what gays and lesbians do in bed? He describes it so graphically and you wouldd think he had sex with a guy before.

Dean, you're good, real good. I can't wait to see what you do next.

This is embarassing to all of us who are attempting to speak grace to people of all different orientations. Just goes to show you can take some truth and mix it with error and it just destroys the truth.

Excellent piece of Journalism with capital "J" particularly in view of quote from veteran and Coretta Scott King. Kudos to Dean Hamer

yes lord--

show the ignorance to bring forth the truth. Why is very body so interested in how people live in the bed room-- the most important thing is how we all love each other.

Very nicely done! Thanks so much. People of color who are also gay face a double hurdle in our society. Wilson is a demagogue.

Ps.
Doogness, get real. Nobody chooses their sexuality, only what they do with it. I think you're choosing to hide yours.

As a Christian, we can agree that homosexuality is wrong and that it "ain't natural" to coin a phrase, but what Christians do with that is wide and varied amongst the body of believers. The reverend's graphic language is just that, the reverend's language. Trying to make the homosexual feel good about their choice is not probably the way to go and despite attempts to cover their rationalization, there is still no "gay" gene that has been identified. The reverand accurately points out that himself as well as every other listener has some flaw of some kind. This doesn't make the flaw ok, it just levels the playing field that no one is able to claim the high ground of sinless in this debate. At the same time, I wish the homosexual community would avoid the tendancy to make the messenger the issue and deal with the actual "normalcy" of homosexuality. What is normal about it? Can homosexuals honestly deny the number of folks that suffered sexual abuse at ages when innocense should of been the norm? I don't like this film because it attempts to make the Christian perspective some kind of vile hatred that is spewed from the pulpit. Likewise, it attempts to provide a righteous flavor to the homosexual that in no way exposes their lifestyle or the root causes of it. It may be old and somewhat cliche, but I've always been taught to "Love the sinner, and hate the sin". Until we can find some truth and honesty in dealing with this issue, ignorance will continue to enflame the debate and no one will be the wiser.

I would like to personally thank everybody who watched and supported this film. I wasn't sure how people would react to the raw and hateful language, but the reaction has been really encouraging. I especially appreciate the negative comments because they make it clear why it's important to expose bigotry wherever it occurs.
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Why is this film #1? I don't understand? It's not that good... I agree evryone should be treated with equaly but come on now, are people really that suprised that a, "man of god" is bashing gays. It's been going on as long as religion has been around. People are afraid of what they don't understand.

If I were gay it might move me more.

Dean! A great work. Homophobia is one of the hot topics of discussion in Nepal these days. I like the usage of audios as well as still photos.

Greenlight!

To those who refer to a "bible" to support their bigotry, who say that the words of the likes of Rev. Willie Wilson should be ignored, or worse, who say that it's time to come up with new topics, I can only refer to the words of Martin Luther King, Jr., who said: "One day we shall win freedom, but not only for ourselves. We shall so appeal to your heart and conscience that we shall win you in the process, and our victory will be a double victory." Keep doin' it 'til it's done Dean.

Not interjecting my own 2 cent..being educated in this feild I can say both sides were presented well and it was very well put together. however you have done a similar video already.. please come up with new topics

Excellent highlighting of the irony of homophobia by a black reverend fighting discrimination. I thought the piece could have been a bit shorter, but great shooting, great interviews, good topic. Greenlight!

Very moving. Put together in a way that made me want to listen to everyone in the movie.

Nice Work, Dean. Good use of audio. Sad story.

Even though I agree with the Reverend...I liked the piece.

g light; good stuff, sad, but good

Too many right-wing Christians, not enough lions.

I understand where you're coming from on this video, but you made one clear point at the begnning in the text, that he gave this sermon at "his church." It's his church, and he has a freedom to preach whatever he wants there. I would say that the best way to defeat someone like the good reverend would be to ignore him. Making a big deal out of it only draws even more attention to what he is saying. Think about how many more people have heard his sermon now that it has been publicized so much.

I applaude good work on this site that keeps the LGBT community alive in the media. We are still underrepresented and misunderstood.

All I can say is "America the Beautiful"

What a funny pimp, this Wilsonguy. Guess he's about the only black man that wouldn't be beaten up here in good old Moscow. You take this shite serious though.

FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND FIGHT WE WILL AMERICA THE GREAT ONCE AGAIN BUT WE WILL FIGHT ALL TOGETHER SIDE BY SIDE BLACK AND WHITE GAY AND STRAIGHT

Powerfully presented! Thankyou. Green light.

He sounds hateful and does not represent the Bible, Gods speaks in Love to us even when we need to be corrected, even though he is right on the idea that " it ain" natural".

Romans 1:26-27 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
Great POD!

Deep. I guess this minister wasn't invited to speak at Coretta's service.

Hey, I'd g-light based on the fact you had the guts to put this out there and you did a great job, good cuts, great message and way to bring this to the surface, not enough of that out there. great job.

Hey Dean - where'd you get the Richard Pryor sound bytes? Too much info at times, but strong piece. Greenlight for this one - only if you promise no more cooking shows. I'll give it to you anyway.

Good job.

Dean, another terrific piece. I've enjoyed everything you've done, and I'm looking forward to more.

Again nice work Dean. Its people like this reverend that purpetuates the hate against other minorities.If he is truely a man of god , he is supposed to be speaking against hatred. God loves everyone gay straight white black etc. When are people going to figure this out. This whole hatred against one another is what is preventing society from evolving.

Dang.
that was very blunt.
but hey im glad they brought it up.
Rev. wilson better watch his mouth... and his back.
may the great lord have mercy.

Awesome! We need a lot more of this kind of message out there. GREEEEEEEEN LIGHT!!!! That Rev. Willy is a lost soul. He says homosexuality is "destroying" us....I keep hearing that and noone can say HOW. It's all a form of hatred. Judge not lest you be judged...watch out Rev. Willy!!

Very well done. Seems like the "Reverend" is a little obsessed with homosexuality. Maybe he's in denial.

this piece is DAMN good!

excellent!

Great work Dean! The good reverand tries but fails to damage the legacy of Dr. and Mrs. King. Thank you for exposing him for what he is. The truth will prevail!

Wow Dean! Big green-light from me....That Baptist Preacher was frightening,and really offensive. I agree that homo-phobia is no different than any other predjudice, but sadly I've heard sermons just as disturbing in a Catholic Church.
Obviously you know that January was Black History Month...My son is in Pre-K, in our Public School System, and they learned so much about Martin Luther, whom I don't think would be very proud of what that nasty Preach was screaming about.
Anyway, my 4 year old little boy came home, and said, "Mommy...we learned about Martin Luther King Jr., and he had a really great dream". "His dream was that everybody should just get along and stop hating eachother, no matter what color you are or what you look like"...."And he didn't want people to scream nasty things and carry around those signs, either!"
So, there ya go...out of the mouth of my baby. I was very proud of him for getting the message, and thrilled with his teacher for instilling that in him at 4 years old.

Dean, you are like a machine gun whose ammunition is good pods. And you are owning the top ten...............This was quite humorous. Two screws don't go together? Wow, so infomative. I agree with cjrich, this was truly frightening.

Truly frightening. Thank you for bringing this to light.

Another powerful work by producer Dean Hamer. This piece continues in the voice of "At 13" to bring us inside the the African American gay and lesbian community...My only note would be I'd like to hear from a lesbian, her perspective on the reverand's speech and how gay women are treated in the AA community.

Great work!

I thought this would be an appropriate memorial for the passing of Coretta Scott King, who never lost site of Reverend King's message that "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." I apologize if Reverend Wilson's crude language is offensive, but I thought people should hear his message in his own words.