VC2 on TV | November 18, 2006 | 69 comments

Crazed: The Bellydance

elleempire
Crazed: The Bellydance is a mini documentary about the traditions and modern
expressions of belly dancing. Produced by Jordan Anderson, Jelani Bandele
and Cielito Pascual, of Elle Empire Entertainment, it shows the diversity
of those participating in the current wave of interest, and attempts to
banish some of the mythology surrounding this traditional folk dance.
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  • pantazonia
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      pantazonia  
    • Hey! Hope all is going well with all of you. I look forward to seeing more of your productions here a Current in the near future.

      I have been away from the website for a while, working on a new project. When you have a moment, please come take a look at my latest pod BIG BUGS , and let me know what you think about this reversed perspective on the world. Thanks in advance for your time!

    • 4 years ago
  • asiya
  • weskandel
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      weskandel  
    • Good job. Honorary GL. Are you guys planning on making "Crazed" into a series for Current? What brought the three of you together to work on films? Any way, Great stuff.

      By the way, check out my Sony V-CAM. link I'd be interested in hearing what you have to say about it. It's just a bunch of foolishness really, so be prepared.

    • 5 years ago
  • SuperdoLL
  • BlindLyleFilms
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      BlindLyleFilms  
    • Great piece! I am really looking forward to more from you three and want to support you as much as possible! Even though more and more women are getting into this, I still feel a bit surrounded by men. It's nice to see so many women involved on current! Good luck to all of you.

      If you get a chance, come by and take a look at my current short, "Shoe Shine Man". Any feedback would be appreciated! Thanks.
      Jaime
      link

    • 5 years ago
  • DaReelP3
  • jsburman
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      jsburman  
    • Jordan, Jelani and Cielito,

      Marvelous. I like the magazine style of organization and the use of titles. I like how brilliantly articulate these women are. Clearly it's an artform with roots and a visual vocabulary. And a great therapeutic, cathartic experience.

      Not that I'm against the feminist or post-feminist analysis, but why not include the positive aspects of it being alluring and sexually provocative? Sure it's got to help women reconnect to their bodies, and to experience their bodies positively. I'm sure that's why my teenage daughter dances. But what's wrong with men enjoying it on their own terms?

    • 5 years ago
  • RachelSilver
  • Davida
  • dbocaz
  • sexycool
  • sholao
  • pantazonia
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      pantazonia  
    • It was great to watch your pod climb through the ranks, and finally reach its destination: TV. Congratulations! I wish you the same results with all your future projects.

      If you get a chance, please check out my new pod ( ”A Humane Society” ) and let me know what you think. Thanks!

    • 5 years ago
  • getreel
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      getreel  
    • Congrats on going to the tube ladies, you supported my new pod Shadow Boxer and yes, he's single but lives in San Francisco. Can you help me? I need to know how to imbed Shadow Boxer html and can't figure out, you seem to have. You might also like Twilight Ballet, shot in same NYC location. Getreel

    • 5 years ago
  • sallyride
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      sallyride  
    • Great job ladies! Makes me want to take it up...now maybe I will. Congrats on making it to air. Check out my v-cam when you can: Freshman Fifteen. Show a fellow NYC film gal some love and let me know what you like or don't. Thx!

    • 5 years ago
  • tracyamber
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      tracyamber  
    • i liked the video. very informative to a nonbellydancer. though i never realized that belly dancers are sometime viewed as strippers. been dancing for 3 years.

    • 5 years ago
  • tracyamber
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      tracyamber  
    • i liked the video. very informative to a nonbellydancer. though i never realized that belly dancers are sometime viewed as strippers. been dancing for 3 years.

    • 5 years ago
  • tracyamber
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      tracyamber  
    • i liked the video. very informative to a nonbellydancer. though i never realized that belly dancers are sometime viewed as strippers. been dancing for 3 years.

    • 5 years ago
  • mosaic
  • mntl4play1
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      mntl4play1  
    • As a kid I remeber a lot of my friends taking dance class. Now as adults a majority of us are spectators. Watching the adults in your film having fun makes me want to skateboard. Thanks!

    • 5 years ago
  • DubbProductions
  • ednegron
  • bitner
  • sholao
  • matt_orfalea
  • Rednaxela
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      Rednaxela  
    • Forgive me for those who thunk it, but I've never thought of Bellydancers as strippers. Anywho, fun pod, G to the L. Did that sound cool?

    • 5 years ago
  • illmitch
  • convoycurrent
  • elleempire
  • simmmonz7
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      simmmonz7  
    • Quite interesting indeed. I must also say that I got a little hot and bothered with all those girating hips. The light is GREEN.

    • 5 years ago
  • MBS
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      MBS  
    • I really enjoyed watching this....I had no idea that belly dancing had such a huge community. I've done Tahitian dance & other Hawaiian cultural dance & can realte to the bond and energy you mention that woman & men alike build with group dance (both as individuals & each other). I'd love to try bellydancing too! GL

    • 5 years ago
  • laughingbuddha
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      laughingbuddha  
    • A really wonderful Pod. The clarification of what Belly Dancing is and isn't was very informative. I especially liked the cultural information and the references to womanhood and mothering explianed in the piece. Great work!

    • 5 years ago
  • Bozenka
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      Bozenka  
    • Excellent! It's about time that a documentary encourages women of all walks of life to take up bellydancing. It's educational and inspiring. Awesome job!

      Bozenka

    • 5 years ago
  • bacala
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      bacala  
    • GL
      I've been interested in belly dancing for some time. This inspired me to go out and do it. For some reason it intimidates me, but this broke down for me. I also like how it emphasizes the individuality. What city are these classes in?
      Great job

    • 5 years ago
  • jstolich
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      jstolich  
    • Ladies, wonderful pod. You've earned my GL. Thanks also for the feedback on the Black Trumpet Pasta. Any chance you would consider performing at one of my dinners in exchange for enjoying an 6-8 course meal on me? :-)

    • 5 years ago
  • michaelpk
  • hollyg
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      hollyg  
    • As a professional bellydancer as well as a broadcast editor, I have mixed feelings about this piece. On one hand, getting the word out about misconceptions and other aspects of the dance is great and I'm all for that. I love watching my students get that "wow!" look in their eyes when they learn what their muscles can do, and I encourage people to try it out.

      But I agree with another poster regarding the lack of focus; I would have enjoyed seeing two or three angles explored more rather than the numerous ones chosen. I understand that the piece isn't meant to be the full story--and really, that would be impossible anyway--but if you're going to make a short piece, I think it would be good to make it much more focused. Talk about the BD scene in New York, for example, or the sisterhood aspect. But to cram in male bellydancers, bellydance as fitness craze, sisterhood, the emergence of tribal fusion, where it all came from in the first place, etc. seemed too much, especially since each of these things have a significant amount of backstory involved.

      Technically, I wish this piece were more grounded with better camerawork and less quick cuts. But I appreciate the effort to get the public more educated on this amazing dance form, one that I've spent the last six years obsessed with :)

    • 5 years ago
  • dave76k
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      dave76k  
    • Wow. What's not to love, a bunch of women explain the origin, the art, and the health benefits while bellydancing! Both informative and entertaining. GL.

    • 5 years ago
  • lindabellydance
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      lindabellydance  
    • I am so glad this was made. I love the way the stereotypes are confronted right in the begining. Also love all the real dance classes that were filmed and showing how intelligent and real the dancers are. thank you thank you for doing this. I think if I did not know anything about belly dance I would feel informed and intrigued.

    • 5 years ago
  • KJMarie
  • brandonmiller
  • dizzinea
  • kieb0i
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      kieb0i  
    • VERY informational. I like how you addressed the misconceptions of belly dancers. I know a lot of people would appreciate this pod.

      Check out my DTJ pod when you get the chance.

    • 5 years ago
  • elleempire
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      elleempire  
    • Thanks everyone for all your feedback! We are thrilled at the discourse that has taken the topic beyond what was presented in the video. There seems to be a couple of misconceptions and we'd like to address them.

      This mini-doc is not meant to be a thorough history of bellydance; our interest is in the personalities behind the craze. We approached this project in a way that our subjects guided the film. At times they do contradict each other and this is intentional because, as some of you have pointed out, there are many differing theories about many aspects of bellydancing. Everyone has their own facts about bellydance as they do about almost anything else. To truly explore many of the claims made in the video, a feature-length film could probably be made with different voices telling their theories and there would likely be lots of contradictions there as well. To us this makes it interesting! And for the average person who knows nothing about bellydance, it offers a peek into a rich world historically, culturally, and personally, which was our main intention.

    • 5 years ago
  • bullion
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      bullion  
    • I agree with the comments that opinion or theory is stated as fact. Anyone who claims to know the origins of belly dance is mistaken because no one knows for sure. Also, tribal style belly dance was started with the creation of Bal Anat in 1968. Also belly dance was brought to the US before the 1920s. I find it hard to believe that the dancer in the film studied "traditional" belly dance. I am not sure the purpose of the video. It seems to lack focus.

    • 5 years ago
  • cishimmy
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      cishimmy  
    • Your documentary echoed many of the feelings I and my friends have about this dance. Dancing in community with other women has brought so much joy to our lives. Thank you for sharing.
      Shimmy on!

    • 5 years ago
  • shaia
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      shaia  
    • I love the title - I am a bit crazed, or addicted to the dance. People think that we're crazed! I also appreciate the definition which calls this a traditional folk dance. I rarely hear that mentioned. I do think that there is an over-emphasis by some of the interviewees on the female aspect of the dance. Men love this dance, too! "Bellydance is a dance by women, for women ONLY" - quote from teacher who instructs men. If I were a man who loved this dance, I would feel so discriminated against. I have an all-male class and troupe, and they experience great connected through the dance. "It is a basic movement vocabulary that you use to illustrate the music" - I think I got that right - a wonderful quote from Morocco.

    • 5 years ago
  • indiedancer
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      indiedancer  
    • I really enjoyed the documentary, and the number of styles covered. I have to admit that Oreet's interviews about the origins of the movements were off-putting because there is no clear documentation about the history of the dance.. Interviews with Morocco on the subject would have been fantastic, as she's spent much time IN THE FIELD researching, and is a great source of information.

    • 5 years ago
  • squirreldevil
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      squirreldevil  
    • I agree with Tribaldancer above. Nice production, but the information is not necessarily accurate. Truth is, nobody is 100% sure the origins of bellydance, and different cultures claim ownership as well as different purpose for the dance. Please don't present opinions as fact! Also the description of Tribal should be revised or removed-a simple started in the 80's as an alternative to the glitz of cabaraet. would suffice, trying to quantify Tribal as tattoos and piercings does it a great disservice. While I appreciate the nod to tribal (though it encompasses most of the performance footage), ATS is not represented at all. If you want to mention tribal and it's beginnings, ATS and group improv is extremely important, and an immediate illustration to teh claims of sisterhood which are frequently made but not illustrated.

    • 5 years ago
  • pantazonia
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      pantazonia  
    • You applied, without a doubt, great production values to a great topic. Congrats for putting together such an educational pod. Good luck with all your future productions. GL from me!

    • 5 years ago
  • mrmonkeyman
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      mrmonkeyman  
    • Fascinating! And, I love that there's so much movement and color and excitement while I'm learning. Thanks for this pod! If you have a moment, please check out my latest pod, GLAMAZONIA, and let me know what you think.

    • 5 years ago
  • Isra
  • onechan00
  • TribalDancer
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      TribalDancer  
    • Very well filmed and edited, but beyond that, the interviews with some of the dancers contain so much misinformation and fantasy/myth, I don't even know what to say. Information that should have been presented as opinion or theory was presented as fact, which misrepresents the history and evolution of this dance form. The filmmakers should have done a lot more research, or perhaps presented the information in such a way as to be clear that the opinions expressed were OPINIONS and not fact.

    • 5 years ago
  • Sandhya60
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      Sandhya60  
    • I appreciate any documentarys that are created in regards to bellydance. So often, in the male dominated world I work in, there is still the thought that bellydance is a form of erotic dance. Little do they know, anyone can consider any dance erotic..its in the eye of the beholder. Some guys might even be turned on by classical ballet. Of course us bellydancers know that pigeon holing bellydance just into erotic dance is false and it is truely a female dance form based on folk dance rituals. I think men and women have to be educated past their "conservative" or "victorian" roots mind set and be shown that bellydance is not a "strip club" or erotic type dance at all. Maybe some people dont know the difference between sensual and sexual. Kind of like a rectangle is a square but square isnt a rectangle analogy.

    • 5 years ago
  • elleempire
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      elleempire  
    • Thanks everyone for your comments and votes so far! We're really excited about how this story turned out and it's great to be able to share it with you all. It's really nice to hear that this is helping to banish some stereotypes around bellydancing. Thanks!

    • 5 years ago
  • sholao
  • shiraz
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      shiraz  
    • Well done. I especially like the diversity and perspective added by the presence of the very professional, beautiful and blessed Arianna Al Tiye. She and the women dancing in her classes were amazing to watch.

    • 5 years ago
  • ajstuart
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      ajstuart  
    • nice piece, very cool take on the matter and some good original content. i could have used some of their skills for my spot: link me know what you think (also, not strippers). GL.

      -A

    • 5 years ago
  • kDrew_Productions
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      kDrew_Productions  
    • This was really very cool. I had no idea. Particularly liked the goth girl who danced to Sabbath. GL.

      Please click on my head and check out my latest rant… shot for a toy.

    • 5 years ago
  • essexleaf
  • kieb0i
  • 4m2c
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      4m2c  
    • enter your post here
      I have been Belly dancing for over eight years I LOVE it! This video is Excellent!
      Very good over view and informative! I am going to purchase this I want to see the whole thing!!

    • 5 years ago
  • aceofgrace
  • DanPersons
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      DanPersons  
    • Covers a lot of ground in not a lot of time -- love how you take in all aspects from emotional to sensual to physical to cultural. And getting in the Goth dancers was a nice touch. Fascinating and informative -- giving it a GL.

      Side Note: My newest pod, Living Iraq. is now up -- please have a look. Thanks!

    • 5 years ago
  • artvamp
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      artvamp  
    • I love to belly dance. Women in my family will do it at any chance - weddings, parties, going out to dinner (at Middle Eastern restaraunts, of course)... I'm glad to see a pod about it, as it seems to have really grown in popularity over the past five or ten years, and yet some people still don't "get" what it's all about. Nice overview.

    • 5 years ago
  • kevinpaul1959
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      kevinpaul1959  
    • Very good. I live in Glenwood Springs and there's a large community of Bellydance enthusiasts in the Western Slope region of the Rockies. Sometimes they have a gathering and symposium here as well. It's always good to see efforts to educate people about the artistic, cultural and otherwise non-sexual/stereotypical reality of such ancient arts. Being both a massage therapist and a practicing contortionist and trainer thereof I've always dealt with the constant widespread misrepresentation and misunderstanding of a variety of ancient physical arts. Opa!

    • 5 years ago
  • wcwoodson
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      wcwoodson  
    • I've only seen belly dance a few times and have never actually met a dancer before. It's great to get a peek into the minds above the bellies.

    • 5 years ago
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