Study says teenage 'virginity pledges' don't work
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The new analysis of data from a large federal survey found that more than half of youths became sexually active before marriage regardless of whether they had taken a "virginity pledge," but that the percentage who took precautions against pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases was 10 points lower for pledgers than for non-pledgers.
"Taking a pledge doesn't seem to make any difference at all in any sexual behavior," said Janet E. Rosenbaum of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, whose report appears in the January issue of the journal Pediatrics. "But it does seem to make a difference in condom use and other forms of birth control that is quite striking."
The study is the latest in a series that have raised questions about programs that focus on encouraging abstinence until marriage, including those that specifically ask students to publicly declare their intention to remain virgins. The new analysis, however, goes beyond earlier analyses by focusing on teens who had similar values about sex and other issues before they took a virginity pledge.
"Previous studies would compare a mixture of apples and oranges," Rosenbaum said. "I tried to pull out the apples and compare only the apples to other apples."
The findings are reigniting the debate about the effectiveness of abstinence-focused sexual education just as Congress and the new Obama administration are about to reconsider the more than $176 million in annual funding for such programs.
"This study again raises the issue of why the federal government is continuing to invest in abstinence-only programs," said Sarah Brown of the National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy. "What have we gained if we only encourage young people to delay sex until they are older, but then when they do become sexually active — and most do well before marriage — they don't protect themselves or their partners?"
Duh...
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realfran
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this is outrageous!
i cant believe this doesnt work
it such a good idea on paper... - 3 years ago
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realfran
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Varex_Sythe
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Wow, hearing this from a study is like hearing a study that says water is wet, it just seems to be a no brainer.
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Varex_Sythe
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RaceBannon
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In Orwells 1984 (I know too cliche), our hero lived in a world where sex was loathed and seen only for breeding purposes.
... Promise me friends, we will never let this happen.
- 3 years ago
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RaceBannon
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MavericktheMaverick
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Who cares about virginity? The more important thing is avoiding STD's and pregnancy. People need to realize that there are things to help that and they are called condoms. You can find them at your local sheetz in the bathroom for a very low price!!!!! Go get some!!!!
- 3 years ago
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MavericktheMaverick
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condomelite1
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Money should be spend on a proper education, promoting safe sex and condom use!
- 3 years ago
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condomelite1
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chillwillNJ
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Eventually , Studies will show that feeding babies is bad for them and so it might as well be useless.
Who spends TIME and MONEY, to disprove something like an abstinence oath?
"Man will call what is good ; bad. And was is bad; good."
- 3 years ago
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chillwillNJ
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crob80227
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Which would be creepier:
Daddy/Daughter purity balls wherein the girls swear to their fathers that they will not let another man touch them...
OR
Mommy/Son purity balls (which I don't think have ever happened yet) wherein 15 year old boys wear tuxedos, dance with their mothers and pledge to their mothers that they will never let another woman touch them until their wedding day and mommy gives him official permission to be sexual?
Which is creepier and/or more dysfunctional?
- 3 years ago
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crob80227
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straw2berry89
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people are going to do whatever they want to. so if they want to pledge and wait then they will. but i believe that just b/c they pledge celebacy that they won't try to go around it somehow and try other things satiate themselves.
- 3 years ago
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straw2berry89
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desertcat
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they are teaching the kids the wrong lesson. remember them telling you about hairy palms? Adults are so stupid about sex and kids, its almost as if they should not be allowed to approach the subject together. I think the real reason they want their girls to remain virgins is so they don't realize at a young age that 90% of the time the guy is only pleasing himself and the girl is bored. What we need are the guys to remain virgins then we can teach them where to go and how to get there.
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desertcat
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brad2000
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The truth - laid bare, so to speak.
- 3 years ago
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brad2000
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Gargaryun
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ANY Preachers' Daughter is likely to be the Most Eager, Skilled, & Imaginative Inter-Active Sex-Toy out there....& usually the ones most likely to have a 12-pack of condoms in their purse !!!
- 3 years ago
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Gargaryun
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unimatrix0
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Putting value on female virginity is simply a means of control and oppression.
There is nothing to be proud of if you are a virgin.
The purity balls are sick and twisted. Christianity is a dis-ease.
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unimatrix0
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bedeboop
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unimatrix0:
It isn't just christianity...many religions believe that females should be virgins, and many tribal cultures. (Not all tho)
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bedeboop
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Mobius2012
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unimatrix0:
My point is that both men and women should try and maintain their virginity for as long as possible, life would be a lot more fullfilling. And this statement is not based on any kind of christian perspective, I'm speaking from a universal perspective, and as a student of spirituality.
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Mobius2012
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TheJellz
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I'd have to say from personal experience, that the craziest girls I have ever had the pleasure of umm....copulating with....were Catholic girls who had been repressed by their families for years and basically wanted to rebel against them.
Catholic Girls Gone Wild!
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TheJellz
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Jeffnfun631
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In he heat of Battle one gives in...
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Jeffnfun631
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Tradiggy
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THIS IS WHAT YOU DO...
Take some kids, boys and girl and let them see a baby being born. LIVE AND UNCUT!!!If that don't make them think before having sex, nothing will!!!
THEN GIVE THEM SOME CONDOMS.
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Tradiggy
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photochick
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I don't know which is more laughable........the idea of trying to force abstinence on hormonal teenagers.......or trying to bring it into a country that clearly needs some assitance RATHER than absinence! This is just another lovely demonstration of how out of touch the Bush administration really was.
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photochick
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RaceBannon
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Just educate the kids without bias, duhhhh..
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RaceBannon
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desertcat
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the only problem with adults telling teenagers to wait until they are married, is that the adults forget what they did at their age. Every parent would like their child to wait till they mature some, most parents are practical and want their kids to reach adulthood and teach them about safe sex.
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desertcat
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bedeboop
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desertcat:
I don't think it is cuz they forget, I think it is cuz they REMEMBER! :)
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bedeboop
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Mobius2012
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Here is a hindu take on celibacy and its benefits-----
Celibacy is to a Yogi what electricity is to an electric bulb. Without celibacy no spiritual progress is possible. It is a potent weapon and shield to wage war against the internal evil forces of lust, anger and greed. It serves as a gateway for the bliss beyond, and opens the door of liberation. It contributes perennial joy and uninterrupted bliss. It is the only key to open the Sushumna (the chief among astral tubes in the human body running inside the spinal column) and awaken the Kundalini (the primordial cosmic energy located in the individual).
for further info check out the lick, oops, I mean link :)
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Mobius2012
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retran
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Mobius2012:
So you saw this article containing information that celibacy pledges are ineffective and damaging as an opportunity to plug your latest favorite religion of the day? Did you even read this article?
- 3 years ago
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retran
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Mobius2012
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Mobius2012:
Um, I'm not plugging any religion, did you read my comment? I suggested That the reader check out the hindu info on celibacy as a reference. I adhere to no religions, I'm somewhat of a universalist, or just very open minded is all, you should try being open minded, and less judgmental. :)
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Mobius2012
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Mobius2012
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Um....The problem is that society equates virginity wiith weakness, a sexually unexperienced novice, this is an erroneous notion. Virgins have absolute spiritual psychic and a host of powers at their disposal, but this information has been kept to perpetuate liscentiousness and lust, the media promotes a very ignorant sexuality.
A vow of chastity is ineffective lest the individual understand why they are making the vow. Not simply to wait for the right person, I mean come on, emotions are deceptive, many people could be the right one, or at least prospective which is why most people breach the code of sexual conduct at an early age, aside from pure curiosity, lack of guidance and unsupervised puberty LOL. My point is that the defintion of virginty has'nt been fully understood or divulged by the nefarious elite that influence us through media?.....
Virginty is the absolute conservation of sexual energy, this sexual energy is the essence of life which purifies the soul hence the association of purity and Virgins.
Virgins are not special in that they've refrained from having had a sexual encounter, on the contrary, the imagination and lust can render one just as impure as an infidel. The preservation of the sexual fluids and energy is what renders one pure, the body sublimates this energy and uses it to rejuvinate and optimize the mind and body. Virgins are directly connected to the source of all life, the creative essence. This is why mythological stories praise Virgins and associate special abilities and super natural phenomena with them. It is important to preserve ones virginty in the context of maintaining a direct connection with the source. But why do that in a society that encourages the opposite? why do that in a society that could care less and would'nt appreciate this state of being.
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Mobius2012
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retran
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Mobius2012:
The problem isn't about societies metaphors for not having sex. The problem is celibacy pledges DO NOT WORK.
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retran
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retran
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Mobius2012:
Virgins are no more "pure" than anyone else. That's another damaging and demeaning stance. Take this ugly hateful talk somewhere else. Virgins do not have magical powers, as you imply.
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retran
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Mobius2012
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Mobius2012:
HAHAHA LOL, My point exactly, I don't expect any of you to understand, LOL, you've proven my point about social conditioning, the media has taught you everything you know about sex and the spiritual, your minds are divided... you all have a very narrow understanding of sexuality and the spiritual, reality is stranger than fiction my neophytes! LOL Read some Manly P Hall and then Get back to me LOL
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Mobius2012
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bansheewail
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Anybody out there ever met a Mormon chick on vacation?? They are cut from the same cloth as the Southern Baptist preachers' daughter, if you get my drift.
Two words......Forbidden Fruit.
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bansheewail
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crob80227
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tmt1....
Here is how Wikipedia explains the unusual concept of purity pledges and purity balls (hee hee...balls!)
A purity ball (also known as a father-daughter purity ball or purity wedding) is a formal event attended by fathers and their daughters. Purity balls promote virginity until marriage for teenaged girls, and are often closely associated with U.S. Christian churches, particularly fundamentalist churches.
Purity balls can vary in many particulars, but fathers who attend typically pledge to protect their young daughters' purity in mind, body and soul. Daughters are expected to remain virgins, abstaining from pre-marital sexual intercourse.
Criticisms
Writer Eve Ensler criticizes purity balls for what she sees as the position of inferiority it puts the daughters in:
"When you sign a pledge to your father to preserve your virginity, your sexuality is basically being taken away from you until you sign yet another contract, a marital one...It makes you feel like you’re the least important person in the whole equation. It makes you feel invisible."
Purity balls have also drawn criticism from some Christians; in the Chicago Sun Times, Betsy Hart writes:I'm an evangelical Christian who firmly believes that sex should be reserved for marriage. But I just can't imagine going about it this way with any of my four kids, son or daughters ... I can't help but wonder if a single-minded focus on virginity is an ironic, and unintended way, of sexualizing youth in a different way..."
The events have been called odd, creepy, oppressive of a girl's "sexual self-agency," as one USA Today columnist put it. Father-daughter bonding is great, the critics agree--but wouldn't a cooking class or a soccer game be emotionally healthier than a ceremony freighted with rings and roses and vows? Some academic skeptics make a practical objection: The majority of kids who make a virginity pledge, they argue, will still have sex before marriage but are less likely than other kids to use contraception, since that would involve planning ahead for something they have promised not to do. This puts them at risk for sexually transmitted diseases.
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crob80227
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tmt1
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crob80227:
thanks crob..
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tmt1
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bedeboop
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crob80227:
Wow, had never heard of these before! Interesting...creepy too.
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bedeboop
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tmt1
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but why are these kids taking the pledge and i dont understand it.. they have ceremonies marrying there fathers or mothers? can someone explain to me the meaning of it?
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tmt1
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bedeboop
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tmt1:
It is a promise...to not have sex until married.
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bedeboop
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phoenixtoo
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tmt1:
girls promising their fathers that they will not have sex till marriage smells of unhealthy parenting. Promising bothe parents less so, though laughable unrealistic. I know it will work in some instances, anything in the world not matter how crazy will work in some instances, but not in any significant numbers. It also almost ensures that when the pledge is violated very unhealthy responses will be the norm.
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phoenixtoo
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bedeboop
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Not always true!! My niece and her boyfriend, dating since the age of 15 and both now 23 took a pledge to remain virgins when they first started dating. They have remained virgins and are getting married next month. He finished college and she is continuing her education for her masters degree. She has two more years and will be done. I am not sure why they stuck to it, I do know my niece is very, very religious and that is a main reason she took the pledge. I can't say for her boyfriend as I do not know. (We live in different states now) i do know my niece is stubborn to the core also and very, very headstrong, especially once she gets an idea in her head. No swaying her. Period.
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bedeboop
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crob80227
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bedeboop:
And just think....had she been born in a different country -- say Europe? -- she probably wouldn't have felt the need to take such an oath. She would have been a responsible/safe sexually active person in a monogamous relationship with her boyfriend and getting her Master's degree.
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crob80227
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bedeboop
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bedeboop:
Umm...she IS in a monogamous, safe, and healthy relationship, even IF in the U.S. Europe doesn't hold the Gold Star for perfect relationships...wtf? She and her boyfriend also behaved responsibly, especially considering they were both 15 years old when they took the pledge. So...sorry....can't take the shine off this no matter how hard you try. Really tired of the U.S. being the brunt of all that is wrong with the world...especially when something is GOOD! F off.
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bedeboop
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mhembree09
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no shit they don't work.
proper education about abstinence, birth control and STDs - everything - is the only way to do it.
don't try to shield people from reality...tell them about it.
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mhembree09
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cantucwearebrothers
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Again...is this really something that needed to be researched?
All the money spent studying stuff that doesn't need indepth looking into could so be used more wisely. It's no wonder the nation is bankrupt.
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cantucwearebrothers
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RaceBannon
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Zut! I posted this earlier. Lol mehh whatever as long as info spreads..
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RaceBannon
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islek
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I think people will wait if they want and won't if they don't. Just be safe and smart about it.
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islek
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Ares
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A new generation of closet freaks is born, waiting to blossom in college, to the delight of university men like myself. Way to go, society. You show these innocent girls hat they have nothing to gain from sex but pain and suffering. It could never be an enjoyable physical manifestation of love. F*** that!
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Ares
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jomahu
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well, duh.
demonizing sexuality and suppressing sex education at a time when young adults are already confused about their bodies and their minds is borderline criminal.
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jomahu
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crob80227
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This is surprising considering how effective vows of chastity were among Catholic priests.
(SNAP!)
But seriously....the Orwellian Anti-Sex League "purity" clubs simply don't work.
In the book "1984" everyone joined them because that's what Big Brother expected them to do...but most just had sex anyway in secret away from the prying eyes of the telescreens.
And this study seems to bear that out.
Mummy and Daddy are obsessed (to a disturbing degree) with the sexual purity of their daughters and the daughter agree to go along with it just to shut them up.
And in the mean time she recieves ZERO sexual education either from Mom and Dad or the schools.
A recipe for disaster.
Bottoms up!
Demonizing sex and screaming "Whore!" like 16th century Puritans is not a serious approach to sex ed in 2009.
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crob80227
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bansheewail
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I read somewhere that kids that take these "pledges" were many more times likely to try anal and oral.
Ass, the other vagina.
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bansheewail
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mischabarrett
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"Taking a pledge doesn't seem to make any difference at all in any sexual behavior. But it does seem to make a difference in condom use and other forms of birth control that is quite striking."
This is from Johns Hopkins researchers and appears in peer-reviewed journal Pediatrics.
Why do people continue to propagate the dangerous 'abstinence' approach to adolescent sexuality even though the evidence is right there on the table? That the US promotes this approach in sub-Saharan Africa is even more worrying :(
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mischabarrett