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Ban Prayer? You call yourself LIBERAL?!?

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Telling someone that they can't worship their god goes against everything America stands for.
Mulcahey

5 responses // Ban Prayer? You call yourself LIBERAL?!?

  • Good point. Seems like a slight lag between audio and video, but it's not really that big a deal here...
    willbpayne
  • certainly, freedom of religion makes this country great. However, if your religious practices infringes on other people's right not to practice, then that's also a violation of their first amendment rights. Only by keeping the public sphere free of prostelyzing influences, ie: separation of church and state, can all religions truly co-exist together, peacefully, without one religion trying to dominate another.
    phoenix_fire999
  • Does prayer in school mean that one religion is trying to dominate the others? Only if it's the kind of situation where it is compulsory - like when a teacher leads it after the Pledge of Allegiance. Clearly, that's a violation of the seperation of church and state. But a kid taking a knee after scoring a touchdown or a praying to Mecca at lunch doesn't seem like prostelyzing - it seems more like the free and open worship guaranteed to all people in our borders.
    Mulcahey
  • I looked online real quick and the laws against prayers in school. They do not prohibit individual prayer. For example a footaball prayer can pray after making a touchdown but student led pre-game prayers are prohibited. The laws prohibit teachers or groups of people from starting prayer sessions where others are forced to hear or participate in them.
    Gorepleaserun
  • Thanks for clearing that up, Gorepleaserun. I agree that students should have the liberty to pray at school, but I wonder if it doesn't quickly degenerate to student-lead prayer groups, where people who don't join are bullied, ostracized and sometimes even face death threats. The Supreme Court recently handled a case like this, in the case of Vashti McCollum, Ed Schempp and Ishmael Jaffree, who were beaten up on the way to and from school, their families subjected to community harassment and death threats for speaking out in defense of a constitutional principle. How free were their rights in their "voluntary" school prayer environment?

    This isn't about pushing atheism on anyone. It's about guaranteeing one's rights to worship or not worship without fear of physical harm or community pressure. The 1st Amendment needs to work for everyone.
    phoenix_fire999

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