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I'm a 33-year-old doctor, double board certified in pediatrics (kids) and internal medicine(adults.) I see a lot of patients every week. I'm up to my ears in the health care crisis.
Here's the problem with the promises for universal coverage etc. There is so much money tied up in the administrative CRAP! Here's what happens every single day: a patient (like you) pays insurance premiums. With that money your insurance company pays people (who have never met you, may have never practiced medicine, and/or don't even hold a medical degree) to interfere with the medical care I give you.
Here's a true scenario--it sounds ridiculous, but it's not. This really happened to one of my patients. It could have been you. What illness do you have? Say pneumonia. I want to prescribe an antibiotic BECAUSE THE DAMN THING ACTUALLY WORKS! But, alas, some jack-ass says it's too expensive (it was actually a generic, by the way.) So you go to the pharmacy to be told, sorry, you can't have it. Then you call my office, and my office calls your insurance company. I pay a nurse to sit on hold with your insurance company for up to an hour. We get a form. I fill out said form and fax it back. You still get denied and I get to "choose" (haha) another antibiotic....which I didn't choose in the first place because it wasn't the right choice...but whatever, you can't afford to pay cash, so here we go. One week later, you're not better, you're worse. You come back to my office, you get another x-ray, you then need a blood culture, a shot of antibiotics, and iv fluid because you're sick as hell with untreated pneumonia. All that costs a whole lot more than the original antibiotic that I knew would work. I finally get the approval from Joe Moron at your insurance company to give you the very same antibiotic I wanted originally, and you finally get better (oh, and you need a note for the week of work you missed being sick.)
Explain to me how all that saves cost? It doesn't.
You think the government is going to do anything better? They're not.
All of us, every last one, needs to put our foot down and say, "enough." The insurance company is denying coverage because of corporate greed. They want your money. They frankly don't care about your illness. Seriously.
We need to stop telling ourselves, "I want insurance in case something bad happens." Guess what? Odds are, you're not covered anyway. There's always a loop hole you and I are never told about until the bill is due. "Oh yeah, that's not covered." You'd really be surprised.
Meanwhile, my bill to the insurance company is $56.00. And I get told, "Hmmm, we think we'll only pay $16.00, and you can't complain because it's in our contract." I'm telling you, this sucks. And as a result, fewer and fewer bright young people are choosing medicine as a career. You get what you pay for. I'm one of the 65% of primary care doctors in this country who would probably have chosen a different career if I would have known that what I really do all day is try to figure out how to make my patients better DESPITE all the roadblocks your blessed insurance company erects.
So please tell your legislators and anyone who will listen, that more govenment programs and insurance coverage is not the right answer. It justs adds big time cost to a system that has the stupidest regulations. Tell them to spend their time elsewhere and get out the way of your medical care! That's what I'll be doing. Just as soon as I fill out another form and fax it back to your insurance company!
l4landi

8 responses // HEALTH INSURANCE

  • Wow. I can and at the same time cannot believe this happened. Clearly there is a major problem when a doctor cannot correctly treat his patients. Above all, which treatment option works the best should be the main consideration when prescribing medicine--not cost.
    mel3143
  • I see where other doctors want to see medicare improved and expanded for everyone. What do you see wrong with that? My Mother and Father were never denied care. I've never known anyone that was denied care.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • I don't think we're going to see reform as long as the value is placed on national security and not on health, on hurting others rather than healing nations.

    I work in healthcare. Board Certified and Licensed in manual therapies that work. My solution? Pay in cash. (I know when to not charge, or very little. It balances out.) My biggest challenge is new patients discovering what I can do. Why? Like yourself, people get better and rather quickly.

    People ask how I can work this out. I tell them "If I wanted a Lamborgine, or a Ferrari, I'd be in real trouble."

    :)
    CraniOcean
  • Dear 14landi,

    You have masterfully cut to the chase and described the health insurance corporations' purpose and greed from a medical provider's point-of-view.

    I would tell you and others in this thread our stories describing the situation from the patients' point-of-view, but you have done the best job of describing the high costs of "under-insurance" with minimal HMO-style benefits.

    But I will add this information for medical providers and patients (ultimately all of us):

    Bush and his supporters created the Medicare Reform Act of 2003 that requires the overt dismantling of Traditional Medicare for us and millions of others in 2010, region by region, in an "experiment" that will surely pass their cost-savings criteria. The backstage dismantlement of Medicare benefits in already in progress, and we have real world experiences with them to prove it.

    For those of us who would like more education on the corporations' battle against us, the citizens, I would recommend the DVD called "The Corporation" that some business schools now use in their curriculum about laws and ethics.

    It is available for rental through Blockbuster and can be bought through them for as little as $11 plus shipping (Amazon sellers' prices were recently much higher.)
    mike -- Lapinex@comcast.net
    lapinex
  • I agree whith these doctors. Physicians for a National Health Program at www.pnhp.org/.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • Actually, a fellow classmate of mine, Mark Achbar contributed muchly to THE CORPORATION. I'd say it has his unique point of view all over it. And a fine, razor sharp point it is.

    Respectfully, Mark feels that if the present corporate structure is not dismanted, "we are doomed."

    I argue that the corporation is a neutral machine, and that it's the primary purpose of each corporation that needs to be revaluated. Much like a wild sex crazed adolescent matures into compassion and contribution to others as a higher calling.

    We both agree that further regulations at this point are only symptomaic (band aids like invasive medications and useless surgeries)

    As the great Dr. Edmund Bach reminds us, "Treat the cause."

    Thank you.
    CraniOcean
  • CraniOcean,

    I completely agree with Mark and you. I would like to discuss The Corporation more with you by reg email (or phone) if possible.

    Thanks for the very insightful posting.

    mike
    Lapinex@comcast.net
    lapinex
  • 14landi, You are right that the bureaucracy is stifling but to assume it will carry through to universal health care is not a given, AS LONG AS INSURERS AND THEIR ILK are kept out of the claims payment process.

    One of the most exciting things about the now-ended John Edwards presidential candidacy was the fact that, as an attorney, he had dealt with the insurance industry's massive interference with health care.

    It is my hope that REAL doctors (not the lazy or greedy ones that sell their souls to insurers to deny legitimate claims with flimsy medical objections) will be part and parcel of any nationally-funded universal health care system.

    I hope that the winner of the race for the presidency will appoint John Edwards and others like him to a position that will insure we have no corporate wolves dressed in sheep's clothing "minding the store" as we have seen with Bush's appointees to all the major regulatory agencies.

    Until we realize that profit is the only goal of the corporation and that more importantly, that goal is the ONLY goal of that entity, we will continue to reward trickery and dishonesty and impede worker benefits and other means of compensation for employees.

    No capitalistic society has ever survived for more than a few centuries without a social conscience just as no socialistic society has survived more than a few centuries without a capitalistic sector.

    It is the moral and ethical blending of the two that has brought the U.S. this far. The eventual power grabbed by the now "corporately paid for" control of the media, legislation and regulation has swung the pendulum so far toward soulless and dishonest capitalistic principles, this country may never recover the tiny social conscience it needs to survive.

    We are fighting a needless war in Iraq and spending half a trillion dollars we don't have to spend to wage an ineffective "war on terror" that is really a war on an already destroyed country while China buys more and more of the U.S.

    Soon, the U.S. will be without the necessary support of a disenfranchised and bankrupt middle class and not a shot will have to be fired for China to own America by 2050.

    Compassion, loyalty and appreciation for those who helped build corporations by making the products the corporations sold has been traded for an allegiance to double digit stockholder profits and giant CEO golden parachutes.

    Often, the only contributions these CEO's and CFO's make are to cut expenses in order to raise stock prices; earnings, value and long-term company strength be damned.
    Inofuilwell

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