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Women today are no longer deemed to play the role of the 1950s housewife if they don't want to. This pod from the Emmy-nominated documentary "Song of Songs" takes a look at how women today are different, how their sexual identity has evolved ... and what that means for men.
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24 responses // Female Sexual Freedom

  • Madonna
    She's been trying to tell us women for a long time. It's about time we heard her. I think relationships are better for it.
    Swiyyah
  • The other side of things
    Woman power .. we can do it all!
    Swiyyah
  • Everyone should have as many partners as they wish. We should all have one monster orgy. Women are disgusted with how they have been treated in the past so what they should do is have sex with as many different partners as they can and they can all start with me. Muuaahahahaha
    Uckfay
  • Lauren's point is c0o0l, but does that entittle the man to see more than one woman also, people don't really like to do that, well I don't. If so and they do see other people themselves, what if she finds that guy to be everything for her & another person he's seeing finds something in the other person for him. Humph, liked the POD though. lol
    Kidryu16
  • So we are attributing womens independence with sexual promiscuity? "a flock of suitors" is something to strive for? This seems like we are confusing the long way that women have come in this country with an unrelated sexual conquest. I don't think attributing a polygamous nature along with womens liberation should be the big message conveyed.
    rmizu
  • Disintegrating roles? A mythic past of equality?
    Song of Songs was fabulously well-done, but had some glaring problems with its reasoning about societal roles. In this video, I wax critical about the pod while wearing my halloween costume!
    nickmattos2
  • Did they have to use every single filter in After Effects to get their point across??
    mcamargo
  • Empowered, independent, self-respecting, sexually expressive women ROCK.
    mirimysweet
  • It's interesting to see how men vs women are responding to this topic. I think that Swiyyah made a wonderful point upthread about Madona. When the song/video 'Human Nature' came out I felt affirmed in my refusal to allow others to decide for me how to live my life, particuarly regarding relationships and sexuality.

    zenjen
  • This is interesting. Current producer Mitch Koss and I explore the status of women in China in a Vanguard pod in production, and how urban women in China deal with similar issues as the US that are addressed in this pod.
    angelasun
  • very well put together
    lfm
    • lfm
    • 8 months ago
  • This is a wonderfully put together pod, and i agree with most of the points made, but the path toward true gender equality and liberation for women isn't being sexually promiscuous and it's not being totally abstinent either. There can't be one definite form for all women (or men for that matter) to follow. Equality comes from everyone being allowed to decide their own goals and desires and pursue them how they see fit. I think that the biggest obstacle for continuing progress in gender equality is the pressure for young men and women to fit a certain archetype instead of bing their own people.
  • As a man, I have never made any discernments based on a woman's sexual habits... after all, it is not my business what an individual does.

    I can tell you I wasn't interested in someone who acted in an unbecoming way that would be perceived by society as sluttish, overtly promiscuous, or irresponsible... of course I wouldn't expect any potential partners to expect anything less from me either.

    At the end of the day, it is not a social issue as much as it is an individual's preference. Proper communication between people is ultimately the foundation for any relationship... no matter how trivial. Unfortunately, few people know how to communicate on such an intimate level- hence mis perception and unfair judgment occurs when couples really start finding out about each other. I don't think it a gender issue at all- it is a communication issue; or lack thereof.
    Hiway
  • I find it interesting that our society somehow wants to equate women's equality with doing the some things as a man. What's wrong with each of us doing what it is we do best and recognizing that in order to really succeed we need each others strengths to compensate for our weaknesses...

    And it certainly has nothing to do with sex, I mean let's get real here, you need one of each for the pieces to really fit and that has nothing to do with equality...
    rossb
  • Female sexual freedom and long-term commitment are not mutually exclusive by any means. Provided the partner doesn't feel threatened by a liberated woman, both sexually and socially, a long-term and even life-long committed relationship can flower and bear wonderful fruit (besides wonderful children).
    Vierotchka
  • I don't get it.

    "A woman should have a flock of suitors" isn't equality; it's superiority.

    I think most of the women who would call themselves feminists these days just want or need an excuse to think of themselves as special, to fight against some illusory force. Are they too afraid to think of themselves as special without a movement behind it?

    Placing requirements on what it means to be a man or a woman is the opposite of liberty. And the real empowered, independent women are the ones who don't buy this tripe, and express themselves freely without regard for gender expectations from either side.

    Do what you want, just don't do it because of your gender -- do it because of you.
    kibiyama
  • I found this pod interesting and promising, but still frustrating. The first problem is comparing women today to women in the 1950s. Although progress has obviously been made for American women since decades past, better is not necessarily good, and freer does not mean free. Another problem in the pod and the documentary is the convergence of sexual expression and sexual freedom. Consider the fact that women who are sexually expressive according to the terms of the piece may very well still feel oppressed or confined to gender roles that dictate their actions/lifestyles. Basically, a piece on female sexual freedom should carefully define its terms, and a piece featured on current should be just that. Instead of comparing the women of yesterday and today, why not examine the roles and lives of current women and compare them to the ideal of freedom itself?
    Chesster
  • This is a very interesting pod. I am a bi-product of this exact topic and married to a very smart, powerful, and well paid woman.

    There was only one year that I actually made the same mount of money as her. I have since lost that job and yet to replace it since 2003, the big reason for this is because of my field. Never the less she has been able to find four jobs yielding the corporate ladder climb for the well paid positions.

    This being said she is the most caring and compassionate person I know. She does not have a chip on her shoulder and everyone truly likes her. To be powerful and successful does not mean you have to an A-hole. This is were I fell some women lack when it comes to being ?drunk with power?. It truly takes away from the beauty and strength of the woman.
    NoWake200
  • This pod is stuck in pre-liberation, pre-first wave feminist rhetoric. How can a pod in the 21st century even question women's independence? This pod comes across as a PSA needed in the 1950s but today it is utterly unnecessary.
    rawbird
  • i feel like tying this 'new-found sexuality' to womens lib is a bit faulted. more than anything it just sounds like you're not a fan of the new, sexualized woman that our media and consumer habits are shaping.
    i don't think this hyper sexualized woman has much to do with independent women- who have now been in the workforce for almost half a century. yes women are more focused on their careers now more than ever, but so are men. these questions you're asking regarding commitment, could be asked of both sexes.
    vavavicky
  • I agree with vavavicky. The hypersexualized woman, as she calls it, is natural. The ambitious woman is natural. The pod, however, looks at the naturally sexy, naturally ambitious American woman through the eyes of 1950s conservativism. The gaze of the filmmaker is that of a conservative male questioning female independence.

    How dare he!?

    The pod questions the legitimacy of ambition, woman's sexuality, and independence. That is really lame, antique, and embarrassing.

    rawbird
  • crap, accidently gave it the green when I wanted the red.
    katharinekov
  • The sense of conflict in this piece (and I'm assuming the documentary as a whole) is really strong because it's so accessible: women and men, love and relationship, these are so basic to our existence and play such a big role in how we define our lives and identity, so discussing how women's sexual freedom is changing the face of relationships is very powerful. One thing, though: I thought the re-enactments weren't as effective as they could have been; maybe I just missed something, but I wasn't really getting a sense of the female sexuality that was being talked about. The pod had some really interesting characters, though, and the piece is really well driven, so well done!
    cbritain
  • I liked this pod. The sound bite selections were really good. I especially liked the sound bite that said something along the lines of the women's movement will benefit both women AND men because it will unbind us all from gender roles and allow us to be authentically us. From a technical standpoint, the audio was tinny in a lot of places, but it was cut together really well and used good filters and effects. I think the reenactments were well done but I'm not sure how they added anything to the piece. I understand it was showing women being sexual, but I don't think the idea of empowerment came through very well. As a feminist though, I think this was really good content-wise.
    ebarnett09

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