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Hillary's American Health Choices Plan covers all Americans and improves health care by lowering costs and improving quality. It speaks to American values, American families, and American jobs.
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17 responses // Hillary's Healthcare Plan

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    "It speaks to American values, American families, and American jobs."

    Blah blah blah

    Certain values.
    Some families.
    And some jobs.

    No need for hyperbole.

    stardate
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    Tori
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    Hell no I'm not. The reason we didn't buy it last time she marched it out is because she left the for profit insurance companies in the mix. She is a corporatist Republican. Why do you think the media is pushing her? Not because everyone loves her. I have yet to meet anyone that does. Yet she is always ahead in the "polls." Except the little Online pickup polls, there she gets down where she really is 6%. We are being scammed. There are three possible candidates that actually have the peoples approval John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich, Barrack Obama. Then there is Al Gore who would win hands down if he would get off his ass and announce. Hillary is not in the mix at all except in the Neo Con Media's dreams.

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    Hillary's health care plan is a sham, a scam and a shame. Already she put loopholes for the health insurance industry in her skeletal outline: they can't charge "large" differences based on "modified" community rating (whatever "large" and "modified" mean). They would force anyone who is old or sick (known in the industry as "actuarial losers") onto the government-funded Medicare program. How is that a recipe for success? We need Medicare Improved for Everyone, (not undermined by covert details) and I think Hillary knows this but won't admit it. Then we have to ask, "Why not?" The answer has to be, "Money". The health insurance industry is AMORAL; give it a loop hole and it will use it to bury more dead Americans (and the profits to buy more politicians). Asking the profit-driven health insurance industry (as Hillary did) to help her figure out a "solution" to our health care crises is like inviting the KKK to help solve Civil Rights, or Al Qaeda to help solve National Security. Their goals are perverse and contrary to our ability t create a sustainable, affordable, high quality health care system with freedom of choices and transparency. Her plan would legislate even more Corporate Welfare for Health Insurers, not Health Care for Americans. We're not falling for it. I'll fight her tooth and nail, as if lives depended upon it (because they do). DEAR HILLARY...AMERICANS ARE DIEING OUT HERE TO THE TUNE OF AT LEAST SIX NINE-ELEVENS' WORTH WHILE YOU FIDDLE. How many more innocent Americans will die if she (God forbid) gets to put off REAL health care reform (no lie) for another generation? Our country simply cannot afford to put this off any longer, and her smoke is choking us. If the Democrats run her down our throats we will choke even more. It (she) will bankrupt Medicare if we don't (she doesn't) fix health care right, and she has promised us that she won't. "Single Payer, United Protection" would end our current discrimination against sick people in America, and save us hundreds of billions of dollars. For a change, money and morals could be on the same side. Hillary's not on our side; she's on THEIRS.

    spoon
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    Yes, she is on their side. That's why in an honest poll she rings in at 6%. She is a Republican cash cow. The Dems aren't doing the ramming it is the Neo Con Media. They want her as our candidate. They figure Rudy can beat her, and if he can't "She ain't so bad."

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    If "Neo Con Media" exists it is because Clinton's FCC deregulated media conglomeration like never before. Then Bush came along later and finished the job off almost completely. That is the worst public policy for the good of "we the people"...possibly ever...and Clinton and Bush both are responsible for it together. Al Gore helped get the internet going; let's hope it can act as a counter-balance to the relatively new (and obviously different) large corporate control of virtually all of our media.

    spoon
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    Don't forget Reagan started it and right now the FCC is busy nailing the last nails into fairness in broadcasting coffin. Don't forget that Hillary's husband did a great deal of damage to it after Reagan started it. He wasn't just screwing Monica. He got ALL of us.

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    Reagan started it? I had no idea, but why would I not be surprised? I have to give Bill some credit for a few good things. I'm still trying hard to come up with one good thing Reagan did.....still thinking....I have one: he must have been a good actor, because he fooled quite a few people. If you look hard enough, you can usually find some good in just about anybody.

    spoon
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    No, not even a good actor. Bit Part. He got his political start making indoctrination films for GE workers. Bet, that doesn't surprise you either.

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    Spoon. No good here. No good over there either. It's like WMD really hard to find.

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    I tried to post essentially the same thoughts at Hillary's blog as I posted in the beginning here, but they would not allow it to be published. That tells us something important about the kind of country she would lead.
    Hillary wants to force everyone to feed the "beast that IS the problem" (health insurance middlemen) and on top of that, use our tax dollars to feed him even more (Corporate Welfare). The problem is not the solution, no matter how much Hillary tries to convince us that it is. I think if she would tell the truth, just on this topic alone, she could become the greatest leader this country has ever seen. She says she "learned her lesson last time" (on health care) but I would argue that she apparently learned the wrong lesson (because it was taught by the wrong teachers). The people of America have a thing or two to teach her too....and it's something she REALLY REALLY needs to learn.

    spoon
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    Hillary Clinton is pure concentrated evil. At least John Edwards, Dennis Kucinich and Barrack Obama have the guts to speak out against the broken Washington machine.

    As for Universal Health Care, the problem lies in destroying the health insurance industry and then working a program in that works like or is a part of the Workmans Comp program. I wouldn't even mind being taxed in some small part for it, being that I haven't spent more than a day or two in hospitals at a time since I was born 47 years ago.

    John Edwards went a step further in saying that if elected and becoming President he would force our do nothing Congress and House to
    forfit their retiemennt packages if they wouldn't fix the Social Security system. Not that he would have a chance in hell to preform this act, but he at least understands that our leaders are also our employees and they should not recieve better benefits than we do. My idea is that we place those worthless politicians on Soicial Security when they retire and see if that program not only is repaired, but quite probably enhanced.

    spamforrob
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    spamforrob, Mean as I am the retirement package had never occured to me. Good thinking!

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    Sorry Spamforrob, but you fell for an internet hoax that apparently has had wide circulation (and wide belief). Plus it was Congress's "socialized" health coverage Edwards said he would end if they didn't fix the health insurance system (not retirement plan). But that's OK. Your heart seems to be in the right place. For the "Congress Doesn't Pay Social Security" hoax, check out http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/pensions.asp

    spoon
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    What a crock. I'll die before I vote for Hillary, and that's sad. I'd love to see a woman in the white house, but I think she's just more of the same. SCREW THAT. I'd rather elect my dog than give her an opportunity to further her own agendas. Enough with the dynasties! Her health care stance was what brought her the most approval, but even that's a sham. Tax credits? Give me a break. We are the USA and we can't provide damned heath care? It's pathetic. It's not good enough. It's not going to fly. The candidate who gets my vote better have a UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE PLAN that is genuinely beneficial to the people of the USA, instead of the companies and corporations that are growing obese on our dime.

    AngelinaH
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    How about let's all go tell the Republicans why they're all wrong on health care too now? What we have are "Pay More" Democrats and "Get Less" Republicans, when in "real life" America, we're paying too much and getting too little NOW. If we don't have a real hero to bring much-needed change from the top, down...(Al and Oprah aren't running), we're going to have to force it from the bottom, up. I have a vote and I'm not going to waste it. It's Kucinich or third parties for me, at least to send a message that needs to be heard, until the Democrats wise up.

    spoon
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