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A visual representation of the cost of war in Iraq vs Investment in green energy. Ready?


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A big number is just a big number. People can fire "15 billion dollars" at you all day, but you can't really come to terms with numbers this big. They just become words.....

This graph solves all of that. We can figure out quite quickly how much longer one line is than another. I'll be quiet now and let the graph do the talking....

Oh one more thing. Isn't the USA in twenty trillion dollars of debt? Two questions, how? and to who?

Defense contractors are robbing the country to ruin.

Frustrating stuff eh? Show me your anger!
phillyharper

3 responses // A visual representation of the cost of war in Iraq vs Investment in green energy. Ready?

  • Military Losses, 1980 thru 2007
    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf)

    As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed Forces is, consider the following statistics:

    The annual fatalities of military members while actively serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006:

    1980 ......... 2,392 (Carter Year)

    1981 .......... 2,380 (Reagan Year)
    1984 .......... 1,999 (Reagan Year
    1988 .......... 1,819 (Reagan Year)

    1989 .......... 1,636 (George H W Year)
    1990 .......... 1,508 (George H W Year)
    1991 .......... 1,787 (George H W Year)
    1992 .......... 1,293 (George H W Year)

    1993 .......... 1,213 (Clinton Year)
    1994 .......... 1,075 (Clinton Year)
    1995 .......... 2,465 (Clinton Year)
    1996 .......... 2,318 (Clinton Year)
    1997 ............. 817 (Clinton Year)
    1998 .......... 2,252 (Clinton Year)
    1999 .......... 1,984 (Clinton Year)
    2000 .......... 1,983 (Clinton Year)

    Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,000 deaths

    2001 ............. 890 (George W Year)
    2002 .......... 1,007 (George W Year)
    2003 .......... 1,410 (George W Year)
    2004 .......... 1,887 (George W Year)
    2005 ............. 919 (George W Year)
    2006.............. 920 (George W Year)
    2007.............. 899 (George W Year)

    George W years (2001-2006): 7,932 deaths

    These figures mean that the loss from the two latest conflicts in the Middle East are LESS than the loss of military personnel during Bill Clinton's presidency; when America wasn't even involved in a war!

    Race in general population:
    European descent (White) ............... 69.12%
    Hispanic ............................................ 12.5%
    Black ................................................. 12.3%
    Asian ................................................... 3.7%
    Native American .................................. 1.0%
    Other .................................................. 2.6%

    Now... here are the fatalities by Race; over the past three years in Iraqi Freedom:
    European descent (white) ................ 74.31%
    Hispanic ........................................... 10.74%
    Black ................................................ 9.67%
    Asian ................................................. 1.81%
    Native American ................................ 1.09%
    Other ................................................ 0.33%

    (These statistics are published by Congressional Research Service, and they may be confirmed by anyone at:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf
    UTHookEmHorns73
  • The fatality numbers you cite for 1980-1994 match the document you've linked, but 1995-2007 do not. You seemed to have mistakenly inflated the numbers during the Clinton admin 2x-3x and reduced the numbers during GWBush by about 1/2 to 2/3. (Table 5 on page 11 of the pdf)

    Besides, even if you didn't mess with the numbers, for those folks who are against the Iraq war, the reason why these servicemembers are dying is much more significant than the numbers of them dying.
    misaltas
  • This is a reply to another Current member.

    ObiaMan,

    Actually, no, I'm not a Republican.

    And thank you for proving my point. You're one of the few that caught it.

    SelectedTotal
    CalendarActiveFull-Time (est.)ReserveMilitary Total
    Year Duty Guard-ReserveFTE FTE Deaths

    1980 2,050,758 22,000 86,872 2,159,630 2,392
    1981 2,093,032 22,000 91,719 2,206,751 2,380
    1982 2,112,609 41,000 97,458 2,251,067 2,319
    1983 2,123,909 49,000 100,455 2,273,364 2,465
    1984 2,138,339 55,000 104,583 2,297,922 1,999
    1985 2,150,379 64,000 108,806 2,323,185 2,252
    1986 2,177,845 69,000 113,010 2,359,855 1,984
    1987 2,166,611 71,000 115,086 2,352,697 1,983
    1988 2,121,659 72,000 115,836 2,309,495 1,819
    1989 2,112,128 74,200 117,056 2,303,384 1,636
    1990 2,046,806 74,250 137,268 2,258,324 1,507
    1991 1,943,937 70,250 184,002 2,198,189 1,787
    1992 1,773,996 67,850 111,491 1,953,337 1,293
    1993 1,675,269 68,500 105,768 1,849,537 1,213
    1994 1,581,649 65,000 99,833 1,746,482 1,075
    1995 1,502,343 65,000 94,585 1,661,928 1,040
    1996 1,456,266 65,000 92,409 1,613,310 974
    1997 1,418,773 65,000 94,609 1,578,382 817
    1998 1,381,034 65,000 92,536 1,538,570 827
    1999 1,367,838 65,000 93,104 1,525,942 796
    2000 1,372,352 65,000 93,078 1,530,430 758
    2001 1,384,812 65,000 102,284 1,552,196 891
    2002 1,411,200 66,000 149,942 1,627,142 999
    2003 1,423,348 66,000 243,284 1,732,632 1,228
    2004 1,411,287 66,000 234,629 1,711,916 1,874
    2005 1,378,014 66,000 220,000 1,664,014 1,942
    2006 1,378,014 66,000 220,000 1,664,014 1,858

    Please follow the link, http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf, for further information.

    Don't just believe anything and everything you hear, see, and/or posted in/on any form of media. Even if you think it helps your cause(s). ALWAYS RESEARCH AND VERIFY EVERYTHING VERY, VERY CLOSELY.

    I even helped you this time by giving you some of the research material.

    This posting was from an email going around. And many would have just believed it without any research. Especially if it came from a friend, family member, or organization with similar views as the reader.

    By the way ObiaMan, I'm a Conservative that believes in the War on Terror. Even the terror of our own government. But I'm still very proud to be an American. I just wish my fellow Americans would open their eyes and see the bigger picture.
    UTHookEmHorns73

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