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Northern Ireland Disbands Paramillitary Force

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The Ulster men who have been involved in clashes against Republican Ireland over the last decades have disbanded themselves in a new motion of peace.
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  • Just to clear a few things up, Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland have not been at war for a century. Northern Ireland has been a war with itself because of the Irish republicans who want the north rejoined with the south and the loyalists who want the north to remain part of the United Kingdom. The UDA are not "freedom fighters" they want to hold a sizable portion of northern ireland in the UK against their will under a monarchy when they want a representitive republic.
    Combine
  • please stop posting you're videos! ive seen them on youtube. i am not trying to offend but you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and people who know less than you will repeat your videos as informed factually correct information. why do you continue to post videos on a subject of which you clearly know nothing. loyalists as freedom fighters? ni and roi at war for a century? please, please stop and find yourself a different subject.
    mcdaid
  • no.

    my source is the bbc. whats yours?
    wgarrard
  • my source is being irish and growing up there. which i think is a better source...your's is the bbc.... which if im not mistaken is the british broadcasting corp.... the key word there being british. reports made by the bbc are slanted to legitimize the role of the british in irish affairs. to draw a comparison, it would be equivalent to me as an irish person watching fox news and then posting about the U.S in iraq. i commend your interest in ireland but would rather you broadened your source material. irishnews.com or rté.ie would be a help to you. again i am not trying to insult you..... but trying to give opinions on irish politics when your sources are english would be a joke only for the fact that it is what you are doing.
    mcdaid
  • So my source is an international fact-checked and peer respected news outlet and yours is (alleged) personal opinion.

    In fact, my information is corroborated by many different sources, like CNN, Worldbook, and the CIA factbook.

    Also, if you were correct, how would an Irish news source not also be biased by that same reasoning?
    wgarrard
  • you know what man, I don't know why you're so mad the main story of this friggen thing is more peace is coming to Ireland and all you want to do is argue about the backstory. chill out
    wgarrard
  • listen man, im not mad, and im hardly talking about the 'back story' im replying to 'your post'! and its lack of factuality. not only have i had to correct you but the person before me corrected you... so if two irish people correct you who do you think is right? do you think that maybe you are not as informed on the subject as you think? please know enough to know you don't know enough. and please show me the reference in the cia fact book that says the roi and ni have been at war with each other for a century.. also please show where the cia calls the uda, uvf,uff or udf :freedom fighters" for ni. you are simply wrong... a fact is a fact. i cant have an (alleged) opinion on anything.... whatever that means. and back to my original point... people that know less than you will take your misinformation as fact so if you are going to post videos you have a responsibility to be correct. yes it is good news and a positive step in the process .. i dont dispute that. what i am saying is you are wrong. i am not mad, i am very chilled out.... but you are still wrong.
    mcdaid
  • its not a fact that the irish revolution started in 1916 with the easter uprising and then started again in 1919 and lasted till 1921 then the irish civil war that lasted until 1923, and that as a result Michael Collins was assasinated? come now, this is the fact of the matter, that following this there were terrible murders and acts of war for the rest of the century which began to go downhill with the good friday accords and the disarmament and disbanding of the ira, then when i posted this the disbandment of the udf? what else could this possibly be taken as?
    wgarrard
  • mr garrard, i think i know the history of my own country. just because you throw a few dates and names together does not make you an authority on the subject. and it is you now bringing up the 'back story' (by the way from 1923 on the roi an ni have not been at war). i was and still am making the point that your posting was factually incorrect. you said that the udf were freedom fighters... well, freedom fighters from who? they work in collusion with the british army so who do they want to be free from? they were and still are a group of murders who's only purpose is to murder catholics.... please stop replying with unrelated facts and dates and address what i am saying. you are factually wrong in this post. roi and ni have not been at war with each other since 1923 and the udf are not freedom fighters fighting for a free ni. i am irish, i have lived in ireland most of my life, all my family are in ireland... and you are clearly not.. i think i may know what i am talking about... what is your irish experience? how long have you lived there? have you even been? i will repeat again, i am not trying to insult you but the fact of the matter is what you are saying is incorrect. instead of taking constructive criticism from people on the ground you have defended the inaccuracies which you say were fact checked with the cia!! i think im still waiting for you to show me where that is written. due to its absence im sure you realize you have erred and instead give me michael collins and a few dates!! be big enough to know when you are wrong and courteous enough to accept helpful input when offered. again i am not insulting you and i don't need a history lesson on my own country but what you are saying in this post is factually incorrect and you have a responsibility to people that know less than you to be accurate.
    mcdaid
  • ok I call shenanigans.

    I'm also not going to take this down.

    And if I want to, I'll say whatever I want anytime I want, because my country guarantees me that right, and far too many people have given of themselves to preserve that right for me to exercise to the fullest. You can't tell people to stop exercising their Constitutional rights. So take your four provinces icon and bother other Americans who are interested enough in their own family history and the world to extoll peace in a foreign country, if you can find them.
    wgarrard
  • mr gerrard. keep the post up if you like....i commended you on your interest in ireland and your family history. i never insulted you personally or your right to post whatever you like. instead of addressing the facts, you have given a speech on your constitutional right to be as incorrect as you like. but just because you say it doesn't make it fact. i thought it would be helpful to you to know the facts but you are not interested in them. so telling me to take my flag and go bother other americans is as childish as your ability to deal with criticism. as a final note i would say to you, that as an irish american you have a duty not to perpetuate and validate misinformation regarding your history. misinformation and inaccuracies repeated over time only serve to cover up atrocities and let perpetrators off the hook as the truth gets lost. our greatest strength is the truth. this is the point i have tried to make to you, as people that know less than you will repeat what you have said as fact. is neart an fhírinne.
    mcdaid

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