Did Ahmadinejad really theaten to wipe Israel off the map?
- added November 22, 2007
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- phillyharper
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What he actually said was:
"Emam goft een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzegar mahv shavad."
A word for word translation gives us the following....
Emam: Imam (Khomeini, leader of the 1979 revolution); Goft: said; Een: this; Rezhim-e eshghalgar: occupying regime; Qods: Jorusalem; Bayad: must; Az: from; Safheye: page of; Ruzegar: times; Mahv shaved: vanish.
"Imam said this occupying regime in Jerusalem must vanish from the page of times."
A genuine mistake by a translator or is there fowl play at work here aimed at tailoring a case for war? Spew out your thoughts in constructive webcam utterings!
"Emam goft een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzegar mahv shavad."
A word for word translation gives us the following....
Emam: Imam (Khomeini, leader of the 1979 revolution); Goft: said; Een: this; Rezhim-e eshghalgar: occupying regime; Qods: Jorusalem; Bayad: must; Az: from; Safheye: page of; Ruzegar: times; Mahv shaved: vanish.
"Imam said this occupying regime in Jerusalem must vanish from the page of times."
A genuine mistake by a translator or is there fowl play at work here aimed at tailoring a case for war? Spew out your thoughts in constructive webcam utterings!
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- phillyharper
- 10 months ago
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Propaganda. Propaganda. Propaganda. War. War. War.
People fall for the same old tricks, time after time. When will we learn to see through the bullshit?
Great post Mr Phil. -
yea he did not say that. I have read the Persian transcript of the speech and he is quoting Khomeini. However there was never a correction in the western media and the translator is still claiming that he said that.
This does not mean that he did not agree with Khomeini, however they should have made it clear that he did read a quote from someone else.-
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- persiancowboy
- 10 months ago
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Not only are those words not the words radicals in our midst have attributed to him, but you'd further have to understand it in the context of the Iranian society.
The misinterpretation is clearly an ongoing attempt to deceive Americans and the world.
Has anyone seen this. It's 1:20 minutes or so, but really quite comprehensive in it's explanation about what's going on. I realize there may be another side to this and I'd love to see an equally thorough explanation from the Israeli perspective. The people who made it, made it in typical empathetic Christian fashion:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=771380610054525...
Another very interesting doc, the attempted sinking of an American vessel by Israel in 1967:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=726713462065201...
There are radicals in every group, every walk of life. Radicals who seek to destroy and kill. Very often, they wrap themselves in causes, very often religious causes or even geopolitical issues as a rationalization or justification for their actions to the exclusion of more intelligent, thoughtful, enlightened, creative, constructive methods of dealing with issues.
The rest of us have to see this, and realize those perpetrating such aggressive behavior are in need of psychiatric care, not empowerment with weapons.
It is analogous to children in school. If your elementary school child resorted punching another child to get position of the ball on the playground, it be obvious your kid had some serious problems.
Now, your kids in Jr. high. Same deal, only nows he's got a knife.
Now you kids in high school, and now he's got a gun.
Now your kids an adult and joined a radical group whose at an age where they realize the need to look justified, so they rationalize their aggression against all people and the world by claiming they were violated, victimized, attacked - whatever.
My point is the mentality is the same with each example, and no more constructive nor intelligent than the elementary school kids response.
Watch the videos I posted and express your thoughts.-
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- VoyagerFilms
- 10 months ago
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-eyuFBrWHs&feature=user
This video is short but gets its point across. We're hearing the same old song that we heard in 2003. Hopefully this time around we're wise enough to actually speak up!-
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- alexandra_opny
- 10 months ago
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