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While a lot of folks in Washington think a border fence all the way across the US-Mexico border is a good idea, the residents of Eagles Pass, Texas actually want to keep the Feds' fence out of their backyards.
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32 responses // Fencing off Mexico

  • Here is a really interesting link to a little Berkeley article about the history of Mexico-US immigration. I had absolutely no idea that the American South west, where immigration is concentrated today, used to be part of Mexico. The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo involved the sale of New Mexico, Arizona, Texas, California and parts of Utah, Colorado and Nevada to the US for $15 million in 1848!
    mischabarrett
  • Very important issue that needs MORE discussion! as it involves history and people lives in an everyday basis. Does the wall provides a REAL SOLUTION to the immigration issue to either the US or Mexico? It does brings more "security" to the US at all? What about the border with Canada? NO I think is the answer to such retarded policy. The wall, in the other hand, does hurts the environment as a divide the natural LANDSCAE and it send a clear fascist / racist message to another (others) country(ies). WALLS have never been a solution to any problem. Lest take a very good look at this other walls on hstory! They were made to divide Berlin for example or Palestina Have this other walls worked? How many people die crossing it? PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO CROSS IT!
    People will continue to die!


    The scary thing is that this and other decisions are being imposed IN YOU FACE without a referendum! Great democracy
    NOTOTHEWALL
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  • Really..... one must wonder here...

    First we get... "Homeland Security"
    then "government wire taps"
    and now our own verison of the Berlin Wall.

    Does anyone else.. hear our civil liberies slip sliding away???

    Here's the truth about the Mexico - US fence. The section that is already in place.. can be tunneled under, drilled through, or climbed over in about three minutes. The real kicker is that the company that buit it.. got fined $5 million dollars for... you guessed it.. using illeagal immigrants.

    Mexico won't do a thing about it, as 20 billion dollars a year from the underground econmony of illegal alliens are sent over.

    So.. Mexico is benifiting economially, and socially by sending their unempoyed workers over here.

    The only way to get a handle on this problem is to take Mexico to task. To use diplomacy and trade sanctions to get them to participate in the solution to the problem.

    Until this happens... well..go to the border at night with night goggles... it'll look like the start of the Boston Marathon.... ;0
    NYTheatrebug
  • Immigration and Gardening
    turboruss
  • Russ... just wanted to congratulate you publically on finding a great story and for pushing it through!
    dbeckmann
  • I like the Australian PM's idea better. WE need a leader liike HIM.
    barkway
  • just give them a taco and they will be happy.
    phukna
  • phukna,

    Just give them a hamburger or War! and they will be VERY happy!

    it is the same (I guess)
    usumacinta
  • I just saw this on TV. this is an awesome view of local texans and how the relationship with a next door neighbor work.
    I enjoy seeing the break of stereotypes texans get in many states in the US. Also enjoy the exposure of the heavy influence of Mexican culture in Texas.

    I also enjoy the exposure of the country-country work & live daily routine and community connection, although there are different tensions (and territory perspective) between the rest of the border states than the texas border. The last comment just puts it so well together on the natural resources and the opposition to erect a fence to divide that.
    Great pod.
    now give me some queso.
    meligrosa
  • It sounds like another cheap trick by the Feds to use immigration as an excuse to take more of what belongs to us and not them, ( fence right-of way ), by putting these fences up. By the way don't they realize they should've done something like . . . 20 or 30 years ago? And even if they DID have a plan for resolving illegal immigration they wouldn't DO it, it's generating too much revenue in the courts, and the coming increases in our taxes are very 'justifiable' in the name of 'national security'!
    trooper
  • this is very good.
    i really liked how you showed opions of everyone.the views of only one person is getting to be BORING..
    thanks.good job.
    :]]
    morgantaggart
  • Mexico does NOT send their unemployed workers to the US. Mexican workers come voluntarily, in desperation for work. I think its an important thing to mention when discussing the immigration issue. An important question to ask, is WHY are immigrants coming to the US? What are the factors that pull them to the US? Let us NOT forget that the free trade agreement between the US and Mexico also includes trade of labor. As long as there are jobs available in the US and as long as American employers are willing to hire illegal immigrants, they will continue to come regardless of any wall being built.
    laprincesa81
  • "Desperation" is the key word! Everybody deserves the right to provide a life that is "above average" for themselves and their families. The poverty in Mexico is UNBELIEVABLE! It is a gut-wrenching thing to witness, when parents can't even afford medical attention for their children. I've been to Mexico on medical missions through my Church, and it is heart-breaking to see how much those people suffer, and then I climb my American ass on an airplane and come back to a life of relative ease, and they're still suffering! It was within our Governments grasp to actually DO something to help our neighbors, and you know what they came up with? NAFTA!!!!!!
    They sold out another countries' society for the almighty "bottom line" just like they've sold us out for, no wonder so many Latinos in Latin America hate the U.S.!
    trooper
  • laprincess81: Correction: Mexico indeed encourages unemployd workers to hop the fence in order to participate in Mexico's "three for one" program whereby every dollar sent back to Mexico is matched by the Mexican authorrities for public works projects in Mexico. There was in fact an in- depth radio documentary on the program on NPR a while back and how much it was helping the people of Mexico. If I can find a link, I'll post it here but Mexico is very much involved in encouraging its citizens to come here to work. They benefit financially in very significant ways from the migration of illegals. Here is one source of some of the info used to research the program: Thompson, Ginger, â??Migrants to U.S. are a major resource for Mexico,â?? The New York Times, March 25, 2002. Still looking for a link to the actual program itself. Takes a while because of translation but even President Fox admitted that his administration had expanded government programs that match, peso for peso, the money that immigrants send for public works projects in their home communities and that Remittances and economic development projects important to Mexico.
    barkway
  • The last and only relevant word on immigration is that the law is the law and we currently have laws that are not being enforced. If you don't agree with the law, do something to change it but stop trying to justify the willful violation of those laws as somehow justified.
    barkway
  • Your Mission must have only visited impoverished areas of Mexico. I've been there too and I didn't see that kind of suffering and no I was not in Acapulco or some tourist beach. I was even WAY up in the Tasco Mountains doing business with silver miners there. The only hint of poverty I saw was little kids running next to me everywhere I went holding out some piece of junk they had made and screaming "peso, peso!"
    barkway
  • I was in Chicamula, Mexico, which is in the mountains of southernmost Mexico. Those people do not have access to much of anything apart from the Mexican military, and we left them, ( the Mexican military ), 2 and a half hours behind down river from where we were. I would have never believed what I witnessed and lived in for 8 days! They spoke different languages just 20 miles apart from each other! That means the word "agua" on one side of a mountain that means "water" doesn't mean "water" at all on the other side of the mountain. You need to travel deeper into Mexico, than just the paved roads provide, because brother, there are people in Mexico who are dying from such simply remedied things as infection! I'm telling you, I've SEEN it with my own eye's! If I hadn't I wouldn't be saying so. Thank you for your response, and peace to you.
    trooper
  • RACIST comment of phukna. The sad thing though many Americans think this way and some even get away with it.
    usumacinta
  • I find hope in believing that most people will grow beyond the racist lie! We are ALL a part of ONE race . . . the human race! May God give us the grace to overcome the stupidity of racism!
    trooper
  • i love this pod!!! sadly, i don't think anyone in washington has any intention on hearing americans who aren't interested in wasting resources on expanding the wall. between operation gatekeeper, nafta, and cafta (central american free trade agreement), more and more Latino Americans are being forced to leave their countries to find living wage employment, and then punished for doing so. if some americans really want to see a stop in immigration flow, maybe they should lobby their politicians to stop creating and implementing international policies that suck the necessary resources out peoples home countries . anyway, i really like the way your pod moved through people's opinions and experiences. it is really refreshing to see media that isn't feeding into the idea that all americans are anti-immigrant, and that undocumented peoples are somehow inferior.
    cvazquez
  • the most fucking stupid idea i have ever heard!!!!
    ssppeencceerr
  • I'll tell you what, if Americans want a better idea about the abuse thats taking place in Mexico because of NAFTA, instead of going on vacation in America this year, hook up with an organization that actually deals with the human atrocity's thats a direct result of that so-called treaty. When I travel to other countries, we deal with people from ALL walks of life, just like we do here. Theres as many people here in America being abused by corporations, as anywhere NAFTA allows them to, and most of them here at home are being fired because they're too close to earning their retirement benefits that corporations would rather give to the CEO's, instead of to the people that actually earned them! Now if they'll do that to their own people, foreign employees don't stand a chance! The only illegals I'm personally opposed to being here, are the ones who come and commit violent crimes like rape, and murder. Those are the ones that need to be dealt with, but with the failure of justice in America, it seems to be just another way for Washington to keep everybody divided while they replace democracy with socialism. That way, no matter who we vote for here, nothing changes and foreign workers are still exploited for corporate profits sake. But there will be a day of reckoning!
    trooper
  • I honestly never thought about Americans going to Mexico to work, you just constantly hear about illegal immigrants from Mexico coming here to work. I'm glad you were able to show this side of the argument. Good job!
    kevung
  • silly americans...it's not to keep mexicans out...it's to keep you in! figure it out!
    It's a dumb idea and a waste of $$ considering North American Union is right around the corner once the corporacrats stage their election.

    Listen to Trooper...divisiveness is used to distract you from the big picture.
    ablindeye
  • Great topic & video that deserves more discussion.

    Just how many Mexicans come over illegally? The govt must have statistics. If the current border patrols and other systems in place are working, why is this money being used ineffectively.

    There's so many people in Eagle Pass and in the Valley who are in need of job training and other resources, that this fence is a waste of money!!
    Blueslady
  • Honestly, I think this is just one of the dumbest ideas politicians came up with. A wall? Seriously. I'm of Mexican descent and it is just somewhat of an insult. Why not build a wall along Canada...?
    ivyheartsmando
  • Eagle Pass & Piedras are great places to live and visit. However; something is seriously wrong there in terms of morals and ethics.
    The Heavyset guy wearing the orange sports pullover about halfway through the clip, "Joe Mora", is a registered sex offender. He molested an underage child..I thinjk the girl was either 10 or 14. Anyways, the idiot who made this video should have done a background check before using the pervert to represent his viewpoint and represent the cities of Eagle Pass & Piedras Negras. Also, why do "they" let him coach kids sports teams? He Probably coaches in Piedras b/c Texas won't let him work with kids but Mexico will. Did you hear him say "I'm proud to work and live with the families in Mexico....I bet he does, especially the kiddies!
    Seriously, check him out at the state of Texas Sex Offender Registry at the following link:
    https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/DPS_WEB/Sor/index.asp...
    Type in the city of Eagle Pass and look for his photo
    jeffmimms
  • Sorry, forgot to address the FENCE issue. The fact is that no matter what the decision is........The US cannot ever stop the flow of illegal Mexicans coming across the border in the area between Eagle Pass and Del Rio. It's just a political SHAM to persuad voters that the politicians are trying to do something about the issue. Kinda like after 911, they increased border staff.....only for a month or two until the heat died down and then sent everyone back home.
    Good luck aguing this issue because no matter what the decision is..... both sides lose. If the fence goes up.. the illegals will find another way to come across and the fence will cost taxpayers $$$$. If it doesn't go up, the illegals keep coming like before. Lose-Lose situation.
    jeffmimms
  • Video comment on pod
    ebarnett09
  • I mean seriously, like a fence is going to stop some immigrants from wanting to cross the border and work in the US.
    Its not like once they see that wall they'll say "I guess this means we cant go in" and turn around and go back to their countries of origin.

    Like Plato once said...."Necessity is the Mother of Invention", and I'm positive they'll find a way to get in. The money should be used for different projects...may be healthcare.....

    I simply think this is a result of American Neo-Colonial economic policies enforced in Latin American Countries. The US is responsible for many of the social and economic inequalities in Latin America.
    chagotron
  • http://www.bleedingborders.com

    Our film crew traveled the entire border from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico, filming and interviewing on BOTH sides of the border. After compiling all of the interviews from folks working and living on both sides of the US/MX border, the conclusion is inescapable. The walls we have, don’t really work, and are only a "Speed Bump." New walls will not work. (Except as a multi-billion dollar speed bump) All the walls in Tijuana have done is drive up the death rate of undocumented workers.