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People never seem to say anything about abortion when it comes to rape. All they seem to discuss is murder and how killing something innocent is wrong.
But what about the child when it is born
Not know the mother or father because it's put up for adoption
Or know that the father is also the grandfather
Pro-life people always seem to leave that out
rachelemae

6 responses // It shoudn't be an easy way out

  • I'm not sure who you're asking, but you shouldn't generalize or assume that someone who is pro-life has to be religious. I agree with the spirit of your point, but I would identify myself as pro-life, and if you asked me about rape, I'd give you a straight answer. "abortion should be allowed in cases of rape because it was not consensual sex." I'm not religious whatsoever, by the way. other situations of abortion, no, it should be illegal. it's murder. you're right, it's not birth control. I saw a pro-choice rally on TV last year and there were a group of teenage looking girls with homemade shirts reading "sluts for choice". that's disgusting and nobody should support such twisted ideas.
    zombies_love_brains
  • But that is the thing about abortion, or any other law...You are either for it, or against it. They can't let it slide every once in a while just because someone gets raped. If you they actually got rid of abortions for good, there would be no way out for the women that do get raped. And I'm not assuming that all pro-life people are religious. Just the majority of the ones I have spoken to are. Thanks for the response.
    rachelemae
  • i'm sorry i'm confused. you said "But that is the thing about abortion, or any other law...You are either for it, or against it." I'm assuming you're talking about Roe V Wade and not just abortion in general. because that wouldn't be a law at all, now would it? and I don't think that when it comes to an entire topic/issue like abortion you have to be stricly black and white in your stance. that doesn't make any sense. there are aspects about it that I oppose and aspects that I don't oppose. I don't oppose a woman's ability to get an abortion when she is raped because it is a crime. you see, it isn't consensual sex. when a crime happens, the victim is supposed to be protected and assisted by the government. that's the fundamental reason for all government, to protect the rights of people. rape could result in the pregancy of girl who did not choose to perform the action which made her pregnant. I don't believe that society should force her to support a child when it was forced upon her by a criminal infringing upon her rights. and, since I don't believe that people should be taxed to pay for a consequence of someone else's decision, the pregnancy of a raped woman should be able to be terminated if she so chooses, which I would imagine would always be the case. however, I don't believe that someone should be able to use an abortion as birth control. a fully healthy unborn baby has the right to start its life and the US constitution explicitly states every individual's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. when it's a baby that will be aborted, it's just slime to some people. when it's a baby that will not be aborted, it gets a name and is completely thought of as an individual entity. convenience abortions take the life of a living individual, it's not birth control.
    zombies_love_brains
  • Rape is an argument that we do often hear for abortion. and I am sorry that people have lead you to believe that rape is in God's plan for you. I do not believe that "everything happens for a reason "(as nice as that does sound). God doesnt want you to experiance a event as tragic as this one, and it is very horrifing that it happens everyday in our country and around the world. But things like rape do happen because our world is filled with sin and evil. I found some statistics at http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html that you might find interesting:

    "1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest;

    6% of abortions occur because of potential health problems regarding either the mother or child,

    and 93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient)."

    Wow, only 1% from rape, it suprised me too and then caused me to realize how selfish our country really is. 93% are for 'social reasons'. Approximately 3,700 lives are being taken EVERY DAY due to abortion.

    another point you made was "what if I cant afford to raise the child properly?" Put your baby up for adoption! Let them have a chance to live, to see the world, to experiance love, to help others, to make life better for someone else, or simply become who they were ment to be. there are so many familys that try and try and try to have a baby of thier own but cant. they WANT to raise a human, and show him or her how to live.

    Please, life is such an amazing gift that we are given, dont take someones away becasue it is inconvient for you.
    oceans_away22
  • 1% is actually really surprising to me also. But then again who wants to admit they were raped or even raped by a member of their family. If it was me I would just lie and say it was social reasons. The thing I don't ever understand is that people just believe that it all should be abolished. Even having the CHOICE of keeping the baby or not should just be taken away from us. Even though 1% seems small, that one percent probably wouldn't want us to take away their right of having the baby or not.
    Also, yeah I know American is selfish. All you have to do is watch the nightly news to find that out. I just don't think that us having the right to CHOOSE to keep OUR baby is that selfish. I believe it's more selfish to bring that baby into the world and raising it in a hazard environment is more selfish than just aborting it. How many unwanted baby's actually go to foster homes, and not just end up living in group homes their whole lives, and then when they turn 18 just go off and live on their own.
    Some people are just traumatized by the fact that their mothers did give them up for adoption.
    And yes I know..People have told me, "We should just leave it up to the child to make that decision later on".
    I just really feel that the mother carrying that child whether it was by rape, insest, or just them not being smart should have the choice to have the baby or not.
    rachelemae
  • My heart truly goes out to victims of rape, and the women who have gotten pregnant and feel they have no other choice but to abort the baby.
    It is a very scary time.

    And in that aspect I do see your point, it is heartbreaking that a mother should feel abandoned by those she thought she could count on in this desperate time of need. Or for a a parent to be embarassed that thier daughter is "ruining her life", i understand the relief that getting rid of the situation may bring.

    But its like this: lets just say there was some way that a doctor could, soon after the baby was concieved, preform somekind of surgery on the baby where his/ her brain could be rewired to make them always feel unworthy, lower, like a slave to the parents. We would certianly not let this happen, would we? thats morally and ethically wrong and horrible!
    no one should have that control over another humans life, right? After all, we are all created equal and should have a chance at a normal, healthy regular life,no matter what our age is...right?

    So, how then should abortion be held higher, than something such as that? When we are all human, we are all the same, we do not have that kind of power to determine who gets to live and who doesnt becasue it is convient for us.

    Another important point, women deserve better than abortion! Thedamage that abortion can cause includes future miscarrages, infertility, breast cancer, and even death. Not to mention, the understanibly emotional scars.

    What we need to do is create an alternative. We dont need a quick- fix, we need organizations who provide support for these women.


    Also, i dont want you to feel as if im picking your argument apart, but i was just curious to why you say it would be "...more selfish to bring that baby into the world and raising it in a hazard environment is more selfish than just aborting it. "?
    oceans_away22

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