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Senator Barack Obama tallied his fourth decisive victory this weekend in a state nominating contest on Sunday, winning the Maine caucus, as Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton replaced her campaign manager and longtime aide in the biggest shakeup of her campaign to date.
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  • If anybody is interested in getting out of Irak, CHANGE with the experience to bring it about and an excellent ECONOMICAL and health plan FOR EVERY AMERICAN, ANYONE WANTS TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE COST OF COLLEGE then:
    You need to email the Democratic Party. Registered or not, you should: Democrats, Independents, Republicans who whish to vote for a candidate who will unite the country: Email the dems, ask them to give delegates to Hillary for Michigan and Florida. Why? Because she won! So Michigan and Florida voters should not be represented? Aren't they tax paying citizens? Taxation without representation, is that back?
    "Howard Dean" <democraticparty@democrats.org>
    Also, because she is the best candidate all around, and the most qualified candidate to beat McCain, his bad temper, his crazy moods, his 100 years in Irak.
    To the undecided, if you are voting on Tuesday, please help Senator Clinton bring prosperity, CHANGE and the necessary knowledge and experience which our country needs. We can beat the possibility of a recession. Yes SHE can! Why should we elect a Junior Senator with good speaking abilities? Obama does not show as someone who will be accountable, not enough experience and knowledge. Come back in eight years from November Barack and you'll have my vote then. THANK YOU SUPERDELEGATES!! VOTE HILLARY ON TUESDAY! THANK YOU AMERICA!
    HN
    • HN
    • 8 months ago
  • http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/08/20008.matchups.s...
    HN,

    Just curious what makes you think she's more likely to beat John McCain? A lot of polling shows otherwise - that Obama could beat McCain, but not Clinton.
    Tori
  • bye bye clinton(s)-good riddance
    pirho338
  • HN, not to be rude, but "Irak" should be spelled Iraq.
    uroborus8
  • HN, knowing no delegates were at stake, Obama didn't campaign competitively in MI and FL. To give her delegates now would be terribly unfair, but unfair is nothing new for the Clinton's.
    Check this link to a Frank Rich article that creeps the imagination as to the possible depths the Clinton's will sink to win.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/10/opinion/10rich.html
    RyanBWylie
  • At this point in time, it wouldn't really be fare to award Hillary the delegates from Michigan and Florida, because at the time of voting, it was known that they wouldn't count. Thus, people who would have went out to vote didn't, because it was worthless.

    Anyways. The sad thing is, is that this will probably come down to the super delegates, which is damn ridiculous. We had the Electoral College usher in Bush in 2000, and now super delegates ushering in Clinton as the nominee. I thought my vote actually counted for something, but I'm beginning to doubt that more and more.
    whyphilosophy
  • Okay, Urobus8 you're right, Iraq, I stand corrected. Now, Whyphilosophy, it's all about the votes. The Michigan and Florida voters went in. They voted. And RyanBWillie, Obama and Edwards' names were up in Michigan! 55% of voters gave their votes to a candidate don't you think that they'd want to be represented? Who cares when the election took place. Too early? Too late? It's all about the VOTERS. Now superdelegates? The Kennedys are superdelegates. Two of them support Barak and two of them support Hillary. Are they all "ushering in" the candidates? Your vote counts. So does mine. The superdelegates were created for a reason back then. I believe that their political knowledge and understanding of the issues and what it's going to take to fix them, is why they lean towards Senator Clinton more. And I love Barak's abilities to move crowds, to enroll the youngest voters as much as you do. I am just loving it when Clinton, gets into the in depth of her policies and plans for the country, I just know deep inside that she's got it. When she tells you she wants to be accountable, the detail in which she describes what she wants to do for the country clearly indicates that she has it together and will deliver. So, my friends, as we are debating this here for one reason, which is that we tremendously care about America, the best bet for all of us would be Clinton-Obama. This, would allow us to defeat the Republicans without a doubt. Can you imagine? We could get 16 awesome years out of that. One of you was saying how much Clinton wants to be elected and we go to any length to achieve that, well I don't see Barak come forth and decide to make a deal with Hillary either. There are double standards out there that really freak me out: Bill Clinton, "the Black president", has this record of tremendously empowering African Americans. He said that the concept that Obama did not vote for billions of dollars for the Iraq war, is a "fairy tale", so now he's "a racist" ??! Michelle Obama who, by the way is brilliant, said that Hillary has "a tone of voice", and that she would have to think over voting for her if she was elected. That goes over fine. If Bill Clinton had said that about Barak, OMG, he'd be like sooooo racist! Double standards. And how come Michelle did not say: "I am a democrat I will vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination"? What is she going to do? Vote for McCain?!! Well, I for one will vote for Obama in Novenber if he gets nominated. I am praying for Hillary to be nominated. Thank you superdelegates, thank you for voting for Senator Clinton on Tuesday!
    HN
    • HN
    • 7 months ago
  • This is the election of our lifetimes, and that is saying something considering we have seen two elections of note in the last decade. In 1992 where a candidate won by plurality and an independent candidate received a groundswell of support. And in 2000 where a candidate won the popular vote but lost in the electoral college as a result of less than a thousand votes amidst accusations of voter fraud. This election had 16 candidates, a green candidate, and a possible independent bid by Bloomberg, an African American, woman, and Mormon, heck the greens have an african american woman and the republicans are seriously pushing for Condaleeza Rice to be Vice president on their ticket. Ad to that the absence of a sitting or former Vice President and you get an unsurpassed narrative. Only election in American history comes remotely close, 1912. I have read quite a bit into it. In that election cycle a brokered convention occurred on the republican side which gave the bid to Taft despite Roosevelt having the overwhelming vote total he was so outraged by this smoke room decision he walked out of the party and took all the progressive voters with him changing the nature of his party for the better part of the last century and echoes of his departure can still be seen in the positions republicans take today. If Democrats follow suit and a popular candidate is disbarred by a non democratic force such as this expect low voter turnout and a loss and perhaps even an independent party which will strip the dems of progressive votes and essentially cede the republicans this election cycle and many to come.
    ocanada
  • Thank you superdelegates because I bought your votes and the American people mean nothing to me. No she cant have FL and MI she signed the petition and that's that.
    amirct3
  • HN, the fact remains that it was well known that Michigan and Florida would not count, as was decided by the Democratic party. As such, many voters would be disenfranchised who would have actually gone to vote had it been known that the states would in fact count. You can't change the rules of the game once it's already been played.

    I can tell you this, if they go back and decide both of those states will count, which I'm guessing is a long shot, that would only lead to the fracture of the party. Super delegates deciding the nominee over the peoples vote will also fracture the party.

    If Obama leads in delegates voted to him, by us, the people, and is not the nominee, I will not be handing over my vote to Clinton, as well as many other Democrats. I will stand silent, knowing that my vote in the primary didn't count for anything.

    Another guarantee is that there will be no "dream" ticket of Hillary/Obama. They are two totally different candidates. Hillary is complacent with the fact that Washington is the way Washington is, and that you just have to play the same old DC game.

    20 years of Bush/Clinton rule is all I need. I don't need to go for 24 or 28 years of rule by the same two families. Let's get some fresh blood and fresh ideas in DC. I'm tired of the same old players.
    whyphilosophy
  • I live in Texas and She is not getting my vote. My guess is when she loses Texas she will fire her husband. I'm with Donna Brazil if the super delegates pick the candidate over the peoples wishes I'll quit the Democratic party. Then maybe I'll move to Mexico. There should be plenty of room there.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • The fact is that the people have spoken... For both candidates. If more people had voted for Obama than Clinton, they would not be in a deadlock like that! As it is, and this is incredible, a lot of dems are contributing amounts with "44" in them to Clinton's campaign! The age range, believe it or not goes from new voters to mature individuals. There are thousands of donations/comments on Senator Clinton's site: www.hillaryclinton.com, and people are giving amounts to her campaign from $10.44 , $1,044 to $2,299.44!
    They have a new slogan too: "Change with Experience and a Heart!". This is amazing how passionate people are about this election! I voted for Hillary and I'm among the people who like Obama too, but don't think he has enough experience while finding him a big obnoxious and cocky. Anyway, it seems that Clinton can move crowds too! She is right now getting WAY MORE money every day than Obama. Check out her site. Senator Glenn is a SUPER SUPER DELEGATE! Now those of you who will quit the Demacratic party or stand silent in November if Hillary gets nominated, you are John McCain's special child! And establishing a relation between Bush and Clinton, is simply ridiculous and shows that you guys need to look over the policies. Clinton's plans, her policies are close to Obama's or Edward's, she just has the experience to carry them out. I am scared "something"less when Barack keeps on saying "..Of course we'll make mistakes..." WE CANNOT AFFORD ANY MORE MISTAKES.
    HN
    • HN
    • 7 months ago
  • NAFTA, CAFTA and GATT were mistakes. Allowing five corporations to own most of the media was a mistake. I'll take honest inexperiance with my poverty thanks..
    Marilynn_Murray
  • "There was laughta afta NAFTA cuz it can't be reversed"-Paul Barman
    whyphilosophy
  • HN " Clinton can move crowds too! She is right now getting WAY MORE money every day than Obama." Oh yeah, where is it coming from? Are her corporate buddies stepping up to the plate again?
    Marilynn_Murray
  • Probably her own pocket again...like the 5 million she had to loan her own campaign last month. Haha.
    whyphilosophy
  • whyphilosophy, Congratulations you bested me. I wanted to be cynical and I forgot about that money.
    Marilynn_Murray
  • (high five)
    whyphilosophy
  • Hey Marilynn, didn't Donna Brazile say:
    "If you're not out front defining your vision, your opponent will spend gobs of money to define it for you."
    So that may be why Clinton's supporters are sending as much as they can, a lot of them $10.44.
    You guys are funny, you think that Obama got where he is without BIG CAPITAL behind him? Both candidates have had donations from people who are not rich but believe. Obama got a lot of donations from extremely wealthy contributors.
    Also, Senator Clinton said:
    "We need trade relations that are smart, we need labor rights and environment rights."
    HN
    • HN
    • 7 months ago
  • I don't know if she said that or not. One thing I know for sure Clinton took more than 10.44 from Murdoch the owner of Fox News. We need trade policies that undo most of what Clinton's husband did to the working people of America. She won't commit to even fixing NAFTA.
    Marilynn_Murray

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